Do You Think The Average Balding Guy Would Get Dumped ?

[Xander94]

how many times do i have to mention i started severely nw6 diffusing at 17 in high school and was totally norwood 6 bald at 21? haha. but yeah mayne it was awesome. i learned the wise lessons of character. kids for character mang

Damn dude you are unlucky. Then again I was full head during these years and didnt get laid anyway.

 

[Rudiger]

Presumptuos, but accurate and true. The slight difference between real care and false pity.

And what exactly is real care? Where does someone cross the line from false pity into the Nirvana of real care?

The amazing thing is that as someone you'd rate as having false pity (thanks for the upgrade) you'd lump me in with those who laugh at you and mock you. I was joking about kick-starting a Dante Awareness Fund but you sound like you actually expect this.

Be honest with yourself and us, you don't want anyone to care, you hate it, you've been treated bad by people generally for such a long time, you now get off on it. A genuinely caring person is disgusting to you at this point.

 

[Xander94]

And what exactly is real care? Where does someone cross the line from false pity into the Nirvana of real care?

The amazing thing is that as someone you'd rate as having false pity (thanks for the upgrade) you'd lump me in with those who laugh at you and mock you. I was joking about kick-starting a Dante Awareness Fund but you sound like you actually expect this.

Be honest with yourself and us, you don't want anyone to care, you hate it, you've been treated bad by people generally for such a long time, you now get off on it. A genuinely caring person is disgusting to you at this point.

Leave the dude alone he has suffered enough he doesnt need our understanding and caring nor our judgement he just want us to be humble because he has suffered way worse.

 

[sunchyme1]

Leave the dude alone he has suffered enough he doesnt need our understanding and caring nor our judgement he just want us to be humble because he has suffered way worse.

have you seen dantes face?

 

[blackg]

DANTE!!!!!!

Dante has brushed me and I'm really offended.
I love the guy and this is how he treats me.

 

[blackg]

My story is definitely true mate. I lived it and I felt it. Even writing that out before gave me heart ache.

You owe me an apology for a start. Secondly I have been apart of this community much longer than you so f*** OFF.

Haha... You've got me all chuckling.
"So f*** off!" lolz...

 

[blackg]

It's like;

So I was dating my loving me obsessed wife of many years and then my dense Norwood-eyebrowlevel receded to the tailbone so she divorced me and the kids then I squeezed open a can of rogaine like Popeye and squirted all over my dense forehead hairline again and she took me back until my upside down beard hair fell out again and she left with kids and dog who even barked about hair loss the end it still hurts writing about it.

Sorry I'll shut up.

I like it when you're funny!
More if this.

 

[infinitepain]

Literally the reason why I haven't asked a girl out in 2 years.

Motherfucking rollercoaster ride with losing hair on Finasteride then regaining it on Minoxidil then losing it again then regaining it with estrogen then having to quit due to sides then starting RU and not knowing what in the f*** is going to happen next and what I am going to look like in 3-4 months?

Yeah f*** that. Nothing would break my heart more than to start dating someone I really like and then have this f*****g sh*t tear me apart and have her leave me due to me looking like a ghoul.

That missed opportunity cost is real. I'm never going to know what it means to be a normal NW1 male in his prime with normal hormones full of DHT and strength and vitality who can have an attractive girlfriend and a relationship he is happy in with a girl he loves.

But hey, fingers crossed for that full head of hair at 30 years old right? Maybe THAT sh*t pans out. HAHAHAHA. No. We'll still f*****g be using Finasteride in 2022.

Where did you buy the RU? should I buy from Kane or Anagening or elsewhere? What dose? You buy powder or the Kane solution? shall we store this in the freezer? everything

My last bullet is RU, if my hairline keeps deteriorating and I enter NW2 I will use an actual bullet.

 

[Xander94]

have you seen dantes face?

Yep this was my reaction :

Haha joking. Not really I havent.

 

[Exodus2011]

Copes a medium norwood. Did you mean captainforehead?

 

[Xander94]

Copes a medium norwood. Did you mean captainforehead?

Ye he keeps mentioning Cope he's also allegedly like me facially.

 

[Exodus2011]

Ye he keeps mentioning Cope he's also allegedly like me facially.

What do you mean?

I think i actually have a fairly attractive face. If my height and hair was normal then i would be 6-7 imo so its really frustrating

A lot of mixed race guys are considered hot

I mean damn as long as my hair is ok i feel i could get a skinny white or asian girl but with baldness im afraid i can only get a fatty

I keep getting paranoid im somehow gonna be trapped into a long term relationship with a fat girl lol. Its like one of my worst nightmares theyre so f*****g nasty and its THEIR fault. I hate hate hate how im probably their league now though

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I'm curious, could you provide more details? What kind of job was this? Why was the woman against you?

We're both academics. I publish papers and do good science, this woman had checked out though and has since left the field. Science/astronomy is creative work, on some level it's easy if you're interested in it and if you're motivated, like writing a novel. If you're not motivated, it's the hardest thing in the world.

I'm not sure why this woman was against me. My speculation is that she was insecure due to her own failure. She was totally checked out and never contributing, she wrote one paper in four years which is absolutely awful. She was surrounded by people doing better than her.

She was going to lash out at someone as she had a lot of frustration she built up. Why she lashed out at me, I'm not sure. It may be that my excessively visible exuberance was disconcerting to her, as she was not being intellectual about things at all. She may have also hated the fact that I of all people was doing better than she was, as I'm someone who should be at the bottom of the totem pole: poor, ugly, middle eastern, etc. She was from a white, upper-middle class background. Her parents were extremely rich. Doing better than me in life is her birthright. The fact that I'm supposed to be her servant, but I was among the better people there, and she was the worst, probably bothered her. She may not have been aware of it at all.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

A funny story about this woman is the way she was blaming people for her own failures. We had annual reviews with our boss in 2015, might have been 2014. At that point, this woman was really into a subset of feminism, and this was at the same time that she was having a nervous breakdown, and she knew that she was unproductive on some level. People are experts at coping in public, but their subconscious knows that they're being unproductive.

So for this meeting with our boss, this annual review, she decided she wanted an additional person in there (I didn't know people did this), so she decided to have this other woman there, a more senior and also unproductive and also overweight woman. She told our boss that as a woman she didn't feel comfortable being evaluated alone by a man, so she needed another woman in the room. She apparently cried in his office complaining about how mean he is (he's not).

 

[Exodus2011]

We're both academics. I publish papers and do good science, this woman had checked out though and has since left the field. Science/astronomy is creative work, on some level it's easy if you're interested in it and if you're motivated, like writing a novel. If you're not motivated, it's the hardest thing in the world.

I'm not sure why this woman was against me. My speculation is that she was insecure due to her own failure. She was totally checked out and never contributing, she wrote one paper in four years which is absolutely awful. She was surrounded by people doing better than her.

She was going to lash out at someone as she had a lot of frustration she built up. Why she lashed out at me, I'm not sure. It may be that my excessively visible exuberance was disconcerting to her, as she was not being intellectual about things at all. She may have also hated the fact that I of all people was doing better than she was, as I'm someone who should be at the bottom of the totem pole: poor, ugly, middle eastern, etc. She was from a white, upper-middle class background. Her parents were extremely rich. Doing better than me in life is her birthright. The fact that I'm supposed to be her servant, but I was among the better people there, and she was the worst, probably bothered her. She may not have been aware of it at all.

she really expected an ugly arab to do worse in SCIENCE than her, a white girl? lmfao. but yea i know the type you are talking about. often become SJWs and their biggest problem is men focusing on their body instead of their "intellect" hahahaha

 

[Exodus2011]

A funny story about this woman is the way she was blaming people for her own failures. We had annual reviews with our boss in 2015, might have been 2014. At that point, this woman was really into a subset of feminism, and this was at the same time that she was having a nervous breakdown, and she knew that she was unproductive on some level. People are experts at coping in public, but their subconscious knows that they're being unproductive.

So for this meeting with our boss, this annual review, she decided she wanted an additional person in there (I didn't know people did this), so she decided to have this other woman there, a more senior and also unproductive and also overweight woman. She told our boss that as a woman she didn't feel comfortable being evaluated alone by a man, so she needed another woman in the room. She apparently cried in his office complaining about how mean he is (he's not).

this is why i dont like a lot of women haha.

 

[Rudiger]

LOL I don't give a f*** about any of that. I don't need anyone's empathy, fake or real, nor false pity, which is just more unnerving, especially when the same people who mock me have the gall to pity me. The genuinely caring people I've met were always people in my same condition: ugly and balding in their 20s. This forum simply confirmed it, luckily there are users such as exodus and cope who can truly relate. And their advice and experiences are what matter to me, because they are real for me.

Going by your own rule of thumb, if you weren't genetically unfortunate then you'd be mocking the ugly people/giving false pity as well. It makes me wonder how you can truly hate people for mocking you when you'd be doing the exact same thing in their situation.

So I guess my "false pity" is deplorable, but if I acted in the "honesty" you're 100% sure about, and mocked you for being inferior, then you'd at least see that as better than being false? Absolutely not, you'd lose your sh*t.

You just have a bunch of safeguarded "beliefs" that are built around one thing; you can indiscriminately hate everyone because you're such a victim. Maybe everyone else is OK with that, but I think it's bullshit.

But fine, you'd hate ugly skinny bald kids like yourself if you were a Chad, but somehow you can still hate Chad's across the board on all equal levels. I can't argue with that, but what a Pyrrhic victory for you to come away with, because basing every person's attitudes and beliefs as being 100% circumstantial and uncontrollable just makes humanity existentially pointless.

 

[Dante92]

Going by your own rule of thumb, if you weren't genetically unfortunate then you'd be mocking the ugly people/giving false pity as well. It makes me wonder how you can truly hate people for mocking you when you'd be doing the exact same thing in their situation.

So I guess my "false pity" is deplorable, but if I acted in the "honesty" you're 100% sure about, and mocked you for being inferior, then you'd at least see that as better than being false? Absolutely not, you'd lose your sh*t.

You just have a bunch of safeguarded "beliefs" that are built around one thing; you can indiscriminately hate everyone because you're such a victim. Maybe everyone else is OK with that, but I think it's bullshit.

But fine, you'd hate ugly skinny bald kids like yourself if you were a Chad, but somehow you can still hate Chad's across the board on all equal levels. I can't argue with that, but what a Pyrrhic victory for you to come away with, because basing every person's attitudes and beliefs as being 100% circumstantial and uncontrollable just makes humanity existentially pointless.

I would never do the same; I've never judged someone negatively for being below average, as I would never judge incapacitated, disabled or even deformed people. Of course, it's a matter of sensibility, and for the fact that I've been ridiculed and bullied for my entire life for something which was completely out of my control and for which I was never at fault.

You're right about one thing, though: humanity is existentially pointless. Especially considering that people only care when you're beautiful, famous or dead. They only care if you're beautiful, and our talents, or personality, or interests and intelligence are utterly meaningless compared to physical beauty. I've always been alone for this, so I know. Nobody cares, and knowing that they would if I were more attractive is as depressing as is funny. Life and people are indeed a very sick joke.

 

[Rudiger]

I would never do the same; I've never judged someone negatively for being below average, as I would never judge incapacitated, disabled or even deformed people. Of course, it's a matter of sensibility, and for the fact that I've been ridiculed and bullied for my entire life for something which was completely out of my control and for which I was never at fault.

The last sentence is the point- you never judge people's appearances only because of your circumstance in growing up and being judged for being ugly. You are certain only other aesthetically unfortunate people are allowed to care or sympathise (which to be clear I don't agree with but this is your logic here), and the rest of the world is just giving false pity or mocking, well if you hadn't grown up being mocked into your adulthood, then by this logic you'd join the army of those mocking the weak and defenceless. Meaning I don't know why you could bitterly hate others for doing so, as it's just down to their circumstance, you'd be the exact same if you were taller with hair and at least average looks.

Feels bad man.

 

[Rudiger]

There's a third option. Those who were ugly before and underwent surgery to become more attractive. I know a few guys who did it (quite wealthy of course), and they feel real empathy for those as ugly as they used to be, and are livid at women and those who mock people for their appearance, since they went through the same and know what it means. They still hate women and chad for what they put them through.

OK this had nothing to do with the point, they grew up ugly and sympathise with ugly guys, and you feel that's the only way it's possible.

I'm just saying it must be an annoying niggling feeling to face up to (which is probably why you aren't with diversionary comments like above) that if you existed as an average or good looking guy you'd mock or pity this ugly version of yourself.

It just reduces your feelings to nothing, that's all. You can claim certainty that I don't give a sh*t about you or ugly people, but neither would you if you were attractive, your reason for hatred of those who mock you is completely meaningless, you'd do the same in their shoes (again, going by your own logic- not something I agree with).

So fine, if you feel it's all circumstantial then up to that point, fair enough. But your hatred for those who mock you is completely unreasonable.