The Gardener
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Ty, welcome to your new low-PPG lifestyle!
You are free from the chains! The shackles are off!
You are free from the chains! The shackles are off!
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Re: Is it effective?
The higher the ratio of alcohol to PPG the higher the efficacy, I believe Bryan has trial figures for this effect.
Dr Lee's not only has more alcohol (the reason it dries faster) but it has a stronger concentration of minoxidil (5.5%).
Where have you got the information from that leaving minoxidil sitting on the scalp surface in a higher PPG to alcohol ratio vechile improves efficacy?
I would think getting the minoxidil into the scalp would be more desirable.
Rogaine is greasy and takes longer to dry because of the higher ratio of PPG to alcohol. This ratio with it's emphasis on PPG is like this for one reason, to extend shelflife, which to a large wordwide concern like Rogaine is advantageous with it's distribution network and large number of retailers.
Do not take this as a benchmark for efficacy.
crycryagain said:
The higher the ratio of alcohol to PPG the higher the efficacy, I believe Bryan has trial figures for this effect.
Dr Lee's not only has more alcohol (the reason it dries faster) but it has a stronger concentration of minoxidil (5.5%).
Where have you got the information from that leaving minoxidil sitting on the scalp surface in a higher PPG to alcohol ratio vechile improves efficacy?
I would think getting the minoxidil into the scalp would be more desirable.
Rogaine is greasy and takes longer to dry because of the higher ratio of PPG to alcohol. This ratio with it's emphasis on PPG is like this for one reason, to extend shelflife, which to a large wordwide concern like Rogaine is advantageous with it's distribution network and large number of retailers.
Do not take this as a benchmark for efficacy.
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The Gardener said:
It really does feel like that, no joke!!
It's that much of an improvement!
look at me I am a shrill for Dr Lee!
BadHairDecade
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Honestly guys...I don't like it that much anymore. I did at first but the high alcohol content took it's toll on my hair and dried it out. I still use it on occasion when I really need it to dry fast, but it's not that often. PPG is also a vehicle and I could have sworn I read in one of the minoxidil studies that they tried a few differnt vehicle %'s and went with 50%ppg because it was shown to be most effective. I'll have to look around...May have been in the 2% study. I may be wrong too 
Another odd thing I noticed is that I get a white film on my scalp after using Lee's stuff which I don't get from regular minoxidil. THis leads me to beleive that the alcohol is drying up before the minoxidil fully penetrates and is left as a white residue. Just a guess.
Another odd thing I noticed is that I get a white film on my scalp after using Lee's stuff which I don't get from regular minoxidil. THis leads me to beleive that the alcohol is drying up before the minoxidil fully penetrates and is left as a white residue. Just a guess.
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Many months ago when I first started taking my daily finasteride.. I gave about 2 full bottles of Rogaine a try.
I was unhappy. Everything burned on my crown/vertex, and it dripped like hell using the medicine dropper. It made my scalp flake and itched like crazy.
I dropped that after finishing the 2 bottles, and contacted Dr. Lee. He specifically stated that I was allergic to the PPG and if I continue to use the product, it would cause more harm than good to scalp health. I agreed, and decided that I will give myself a little over a year with Propecia, to see how it works.. before adding minoxidil again.
Now after reading this thread, tynan has made me laugh and smile as usual with his clever wit and his informative.. information All this said, I'm definately not as 'scared' to get back on minoxidil if the finasteride results don't get me the progress I want with my diffuse thinning.. but it won't be the store brands, I will try Dr. Lee's 5.5% PPG free.
BadHairDecade: You sound like you handle the PPG fairly well am I correct?
I was unhappy. Everything burned on my crown/vertex, and it dripped like hell using the medicine dropper. It made my scalp flake and itched like crazy.
I dropped that after finishing the 2 bottles, and contacted Dr. Lee. He specifically stated that I was allergic to the PPG and if I continue to use the product, it would cause more harm than good to scalp health. I agreed, and decided that I will give myself a little over a year with Propecia, to see how it works.. before adding minoxidil again.
Now after reading this thread, tynan has made me laugh and smile as usual with his clever wit and his informative.. information
All this said, I'm definately not as 'scared' to get back on minoxidil if the finasteride results don't get me the progress I want with my diffuse thinning.. but it won't be the store brands, I will try Dr. Lee's 5.5% PPG free.BadHairDecade: You sound like you handle the PPG fairly well am I correct?
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Iwan Maier said:
I have no problem with PPG at all. If anyone has irritation from PPG I'd definitely recommend Dr Lee's stuff. I think my scalp just has a low tolerance to a lot of alcohol. I had the same problem with Lee's spironolactone, that was a little worse since I was also using minoxidil, so i was dumping a lot of alcohol on my dome.
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Rsx said:
Ye Olde London Town, UK
Four mo'fo' days from ordering.
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Iwan Maier said:
Normal Rogaine 50% PPG = slow drying
Dr Lee's minoxidil 30% PPG = very fast drying
Dr Lee's minoxidil PPG Free = slow drying
pleasehelpme
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wow is it that good?
could you tell me exactly how long does it take from applying it to drying completely.
thanks
could you tell me exactly how long does it take from applying it to drying completely.
thanks
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pleasehelpme said:
I am sure there will be variuos influences on how long it takes to dry, like air humidity, tempreture, even the condition and hydration level of your scalp (maybe?)
Seems to be dry to touch in 5-10 minutes.
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Rsx said:
where are you?
which shipping method did you choose?
Pirate Commander F.B.
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Why don't you guys get your minoxidil made at a pharmacy? When I tried minoxidil a few years ago my doctor gave a script to be made by the pharmacist, I'm sure they could make a minoxidil with low ppg too.
My minoxidil back then cost me 20 eurodollars for 200ml! :freaked2:
Also Tynan could you post links to that graph instead of posting the image, it always fucks my computer up so I have to restart! thanks.
My minoxidil back then cost me 20 eurodollars for 200ml! :freaked2:
Also Tynan could you post links to that graph instead of posting the image, it always fucks my computer up so I have to restart! thanks.
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Iwan Maier said:
If you found the Rogaine irritating, yes the lower PPG may sort you out.
Even with an itchy flakey reaction to Rogaine I have found that continued use along with Nizoral and TSal the problems reduce or in my case completely dissapear after a number of weeks.
I would suggest you buy a couple of the 30% PPGs (product 500) and if you still find that causes you trouble after a couple of months you always have the PPG free option (product 540). But with the PPG free stuff you are going back to long drying times (like Rogaine).
You could also consider 30% PPG minoxidil along with folligen and Emu oil.