end of baldness.they figured it out all.

[hellouser]

I just want to know one thing, "what in the world do these scientists do all freaking day"? Get early to their office, turn on the coffee maker, check emails, mess up some Wikipedia entries, check facebook status. Then they analyze some results for the remaining day and call it a days worth of work?

They've solved the last piece months ago with the DP cells... there's more than one team working on a solution for hair loss and theoretically we should be able to grow as much hair as we'd ever need.

I wanna know too, what they're doing all this time to justify so many of their claims of 'oh, it will take another 5 years.....' WHY? Did they just receive some bonus and are taking a 5 year vacation? What is the reason for all the fvcking holdups?

 

[Sparky4444]

There are also some armchair scientists / new age alternative therapy quacks on this board who lack any formal scientific education, hence are unqualified to provide an objective commentary on such matters.

BSc w/Specialization in Meteorology..two years post Grad in soil science...halfway to getting my pilots license...built my own Marshall amplifier replica of Eddie Van Halen's from the ground up...

yep...keep talking bushwacker

 

[thinin]

They've solved the last piece months ago with the DP cells...?

This... What's happened to the recent dp discoveries. Wasn't this one of the recent "breaking news" celebrations happening on hairloss forums.

 

[Python]

Why aren't we hearing about this on the news? On blogs? They claim to be able to grow hairs in a petri dish, if this is true this is huge and yet the world is acting like it isn't happening? Maybe we could all email baldingblog and ask about it?

Do you have any idea how the magazine departments work or the media? They don't know jack sh!t about science, typically it is some English major or graphic designer playing "expert". They all wait until one major resource publishes the science and all they do is regurgitate the article, I know, I used to do affilate marketing before, this is how it's done.

That's why I have said that we need to do this ourself and make an infographic with some nice articles and guest blog, it is the only way. It would also go along way if we add some references, which in reality isn't as hard since we seem to have all the pieces of the puzzle.

LET'S DO THIS SH!T, OR WAIT 10 MORE YEARS. We need the help of scientists and arm chair scientists alike.

 

[karankaran]

The thing is that we will have to wait another 10-15 years for current developments to mature. By that, I mean the cloning of hair and then putting it in our scalps as it has been discussed here.

But that excludes approaches that have already had some years in development behind them like Follica etc. That is what i think.

It is also a possibility that before that, we will have certain treatments or combination of treatments to fully improve our condition - by that i mean, certain topicals or oral drugs for the pathways already identified.

Just what i feel by seeing the progress.

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I just want a cure NOW and i wish i could have it. :-(

 

[Python]

The thing is that we will have to wait another 10-15 years for current developments to mature. By that, I mean the cloning of hair and then putting it in our scalps as it has been discussed here.

But that excludes approaches that have already had some years in development behind them like Follica etc. That is what i think.

It is also a possibility that before that, we will have certain treatments or combination of treatments to fully improve our condition - by that i mean, certain topicals or oral drugs for the pathways already identified.

Just what i feel by seeing the progress.

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I just want a cure NOW and i wish i could have it. :-(

Have you considered a hair system before the cure comes? I am thinking about it. Hey karan, do you think this will also cure non male pattern baldness, likes totalis errata and universalis?

 

[karankaran]

Have you considered a hair system before the cure comes? I am thinking about it. Hey karan, do you think this will also cure non male pattern baldness, likes totalis errata and universalis?

No. I am kinda obsessed with idealism and for me that means at least my own hair on my scalp and nothing artificial to hide my baldness. I am not sure if it will cure non male pattern baldness hair loss diseases.

 

[Sparky4444]

The thing is that we will have to wait another 10-15 years for current developments to mature. By that, I mean the cloning of hair and then putting it in our scalps as it has been discussed here.

But that excludes approaches that have already had some years in development behind them like Follica etc. That is what i think.

It is also a possibility that before that, we will have certain treatments or combination of treatments to fully improve our condition - by that i mean, certain topicals or oral drugs for the pathways already identified.

Just what i feel by seeing the progress.

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I just want a cure NOW and i wish i could have it. :-(

Couldn't have said it better myself! :agree:

 

[hellouser]

The thing is that we will have to wait another 10-15 years for current developments to mature. By that, I mean the cloning of hair and then putting it in our scalps as it has been discussed here.

This is where you and everyone else needs to be REALLY FVCKING PISSED OFF:

If the findings of the Chinese researchers mean a theoretical working duplication of the DP cells that retain their properties really means we can clone follicles at will, they will be created TODAY and be functioning TODAY as desired.

So why the fvck should any of us wait TEN YEARS? What the hell do they have to do for the next ten years when their method is already working?

 

[waynakyo]

Hellhouse: this is related to the discussion on Truth forum which for some reason is not allowing me to post there.
Regarding paying for Desdmond to participate, I am in.
The thing though it that I think we should aim for much more than that, we need to create a foundation that taps donations from all those who are affected by baldness and feel strongly about it to help (i) accelerate the science (through a system of reward/prizes for example), (ii) help us get more informed by having someone like Desmond or other interview these guys on a regular basis, fly over, meet with them, and help them to meet investors....

We talked about this before, now the time is ripe to do it. I suggest whoever agrees with this idea contact me (please let people on the Truth forum know), we need like 5-10 dedicated people to help setting this up, we then elect a spoke person (not me, someone who really knows the science very well, bio background is necessary) who can represent us in conferences and so on...

let me know what you think...

 

[hellouser]

Hellhouse: this is related to the discussion on Truth forum which for some reason is not allowing me to post there.
Regarding paying for Desdmond to participate, I am in.

Assuming of course Desmond can and is willing to go. Someone said I should go but I wouldnt have the slightest clue of what EXACTLY all the presentation are about, so its better to get someone with Desmond's knowledge to listen in and understand the info.

The thing though it that I think we should aim for much more than that, we need to create a foundation that taps donations from all those who are affected by baldness and feel strongly about it to help (i) accelerate the science (through a system of reward/prizes for example), (ii) help us get more informed by having someone like Desmond or other interview these guys on a regular basis, fly over, meet with them, and help them to meet investors....

Yes, true, but this is a very VERY large project and can only happen when enough of us will actually commit to such a project.

We talked about this before, now the time is ripe to do it.

Not really. Nobody has demonstrated fully cloned follicles with all the properties we'd desire and we don't know if they'd survive when implanted and for how long they'd live. Until that is figured out, THEN we can start a serious movement... and once they do succeed in cloning the hair follicle, I will NOT accept a fvcking 10 year waiting period to get my hair back.

I suggest whoever agrees with this idea contact me (please let people on the Truth forum know), we need like 5-10 dedicated people to help setting this up, we then elect a spoke person (not me, someone who really knows the science very well, bio background is necessary) who can represent us in conferences and so on...

Desmond is the right guy, but that'd also mean him going public... and who knows if he can speak well. He's obviously well rounded on the forums, but if you wanna do things perfectly, you'd need someone like Steve Jobs... a young but BALD Steve Jobs. Either that or a woman, because nobody gives a **** about mens health... its always hands across the world for womens health.

 

[Python]

Assuming of course Desmond can and is willing to go. Someone said I should go but I wouldnt have the slightest clue of what EXACTLY all the presentation are about, so its better to get someone with Desmond's knowledge to listen in and understand the info.



Yes, true, but this is a very VERY large project and can only happen when enough of us will actually commit to such a project.



Not really. Nobody has demonstrated fully cloned follicles with all the properties we'd desire and we don't know if they'd survive when implanted and for how long they'd live. Until that is figured out, THEN we can start a serious movement... and once they do succeed in cloning the hair follicle, I will NOT accept a fvcking 10 year waiting period to get my hair back.



Desmond is the right guy, but that'd also mean him going public... and who knows if he can speak well. He's obviously well rounded on the forums, but if you wanna do things perfectly, you'd need someone like Steve Jobs... a young but BALD Steve Jobs. Either that or a woman, because nobody gives a **** about mens health... its always hands across the world for womens health.

I have always wondered why people don't have empathy for balding men or men in general in the health industry. It's always crying women about their acne, it's disgusting I a way.

 

[badgenome]

This is where you and everyone else needs to be REALLY FVCKING PISSED OFF:

If the findings of the Chinese researchers mean a theoretical working duplication of the DP cells that retain their properties really means we can clone follicles at will, they will be created TODAY and be functioning TODAY as desired.

So why the fvck should any of us wait TEN YEARS? What the hell do they have to do for the next ten years when their method is already working?

Figure out how to make it so that you'd have to have to procedure done ever so often or dependent on certain drugs. No money to be made in a simple one time fixer.

 

[I.D WALKER]

It can be done. However I am not so keen on sending a sole person overseas to bear and carry out this ambitious venture alone. Still one is better than none. It is ideal but is it realistic to assemble a small and well rounded team of say three to four members? No more than two whom possess a solid biology background and this should probably go without saying, but both should possess stellar critical thinking skills as well. The remainder should be specialized in communications and be delegated the role as our " forum mouth piece" who's primary function will be to bring us feed back of the progress being met and on a regular basis. Also it might provide leverage to bring aboard a "hungry" freelance( investigative) reporter who has connections with respected newspapers or network(s). Compose a clear and organized agenda or outline along with concise travel details of course. Get in touch with Desmond ASAP and present this loose format to him while the better details are being hashed out. Finding the right funding or sponsors will be another challenge in itself. Godspeed gentlemen.

Assuming of course Desmond can and is willing to go. Someone said I should go but I wouldnt have the slightest clue of what EXACTLY all the presentation are about, so its better to get someone with Desmond's knowledge to listen in and understand the info.



Yes, true, but this is a very VERY large project and can only happen when enough of us will actually commit to such a project.



Not really. Nobody has demonstrated fully cloned follicles with all the properties we'd desire and we don't know if they'd survive when implanted and for how long they'd live. Until that is figured out, THEN we can start a serious movement... and once they do succeed in cloning the hair follicle, I will NOT accept a fvcking 10 year waiting period to get my hair back.



Desmond is the right guy, but that'd also mean him going public... and who knows if he can speak well. He's obviously well rounded on the forums, but if you wanna do things perfectly, you'd need someone like Steve Jobs... a young but BALD Steve Jobs. Either that or a woman, because nobody gives a **** about mens health... its always hands across the world for womens health.

 

[Sparky4444]

I will NOT accept a fvcking 10 year waiting period to get my hair back.


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...unless something is coming out that has been well hidden from us, you most likely will have to "accept the unacceptable"

...at this point, my faith in PiloFocus is waning...

 

[Python]

...unless something is coming out that has been well hidden from us, you most likely will have to "accept the unacceptable"

...at this point, my faith in PiloFocus is waning...

Sparks, do you suffer from bipolar disorder? You always seem to be very angry at posts, it is negativity with you all the way. There IS ways we can expedite the process and we should not have to keep our arms crossed.

We are sending Desmond to the conference even if he doesn't want to, we will make him.

 

[Sparky4444]

Sparks, do you suffer from bipolar disorder? You always seem to be very angry at posts, it is negativity with you all the way. There IS ways we can expedite the process and we should not have to keep our arms crossed.

We are sending Desmond to the conference even if he doesn't want to, we will make him.

..ummmm....what are you going to do?? grow your own hair in a dish and have your friend transplant it for you???

...jeezus, some of you guys are delusional....and what is negative about "acceptance"?? If you CAN'T have your hair back, then what is ranting about how you WILL NOT TOLERATE HOW A SOLUTION IS NOT COMING TO MARKET going to do to get your hair back???

like..holy crap...get a clue

 

[hellouser]

...unless something is coming out that has been well hidden from us, you most likely will have to "accept the unacceptable"

...at this point, my faith in PiloFocus is waning...

Your complacent attitude will be a contributing factor towards your desired negative outcome.

 

[Sparky4444]

Your complacent attitude will be a contributing factor towards your desired negative outcome.

dude...you're talking out your arse...I've tried EVERYTHING and ANYTHING, pretty much, over the past 15+ years! ...

...I am confused here??? So they're growing hair in a dish somewhere in Asia....what are you going to do?? This is beyond a home-remedy now....there are limits...

negative outcome?? acceptance??? I'm 6'2", I will never become a horse jockey...my co-worker is 6'5" and he can't become a pilot, like what I'm doing -- he's too tall....there are some things that are beyond our control....yes, we fight the good fight, and some have fought harder than others...

...but correct me if I'm wrong, here, but you guys are somehow going to home-base this hair-in-a-dish thing, than you're nuts...

..as far as PiloFocus is concerned, I still all in for this when it happens...but the delays have me concerned...afaic, PiloFocus will be the only smart way to go for hair transplant's...

....so stick your attacks up your a$$'es...I didn't attack any of you...

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btw -- from Wesley's website

Beginning as early as 2014, the surgical technique patented by Dr. Wesley will receive FDA Approval and be made available to patients worldwide. Using this innovative approach, the benefits of current surgical practices (hair survival and natural appearance) may be enhanced and the appearance of scarring may be eliminated. In addition, post-operative recovery may be improved by becoming more comfortable and more rapid.

...at least the website has been up-dated...still a black-box, this thing....

 

[Python]

dude...you're talking out your arse...I've tried EVERYTHING and ANYTHING, pretty much, over the past 15+ years! ...

...I am confused here??? So they're growing hair in a dish somewhere in Asia....what are you going to do?? This is beyond a home-remedy now....there are limits...

negative outcome?? acceptance??? I'm 6'2", I will never become a horse jockey...my co-worker is 6'5" and he can't become a pilot, like what I'm doing -- he's too tall....there are some things that are beyond our control....yes, we fight the good fight, and some have fought harder than others...

...but correct me if I'm wrong, here, but you guys are somehow going to home-base this hair-in-a-dish thing, than you're nuts...

..as far as PiloFocus is concerned, I still all in for this when it happens...but the delays have me concerned...afaic, PiloFocus will be the only smart way to go for hair transplant's...

....so stick your attacks up your a$$'es...I didn't attack any of you...

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btw -- from Wesley's website

Beginning as early as 2014, the surgical technique patented by Dr. Wesley will receive FDA Approval and be made available to patients worldwide. Using this innovative approach, the benefits of current surgical practices (hair survival and natural appearance) may be enhanced and the appearance of scarring may be eliminated. In addition, post-operative recovery may be improved by becoming more comfortable and more rapid.

...at least the website has been up-dated...still a black-box, this thing....

We're not talking about doing something directly as we have told you many times. What a can do is create awareness and it will show that a lot of money is involved and the process will go much faster.

If we stay quiet they will simply ignore us, but if we pressure them, they will release it faster, it's just common sense. It works for politics and it will work for this as well. We can't make them work faster in the lab but we can bloke some of their lame tactics to hold the cure because of executive decisions.