Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[MylovelyHair]

This girl keepcoolmybabies has the sickest and roundest hairline and she got it with topical minoxidil with tretinoin or something like that maybe you should get some advise!

 

[Gergely]

yeah, normal good hairline. yupyup. its great.
Im not saying i didnt improve drastically, but if you are on high dose injections+duta+bica+prog+microneedling this is NOT good enough.View attachment 175724View attachment 175725

Still take it over my forehea
Ps: I wouldn't be happy still

 

[likemike]

The best results seems to get by E2V injections

He has a good regimen, injections of E
It seems impossible to restore the ideal Norwood 0 even after long-term HRT. Especially if you have gone further than Norwood 2. Either it takes years

 

[MylovelyHair]

For non trans people e2 should not be choice at all.. you will develop female body composition and tits way before any results on hair. Not to mention permanent infertility and unsustainabilty of gained hair after discontinuation. Atleast with anti androgens its possible to maintain that with ru/pyrilutamide (like jgray after spironolactone) in theory while e2 acts as hair booster like minoxidil and gains cant be kept with just AA. Hrt cycles are not feasable just like oral antiandrogens in the long run. Lets just hope kintor replaces these shitty 30+ year old oral anti androgens for good..

what is pyrilutamide?? how do we get ru and pyrilutamide in european union countries?any sites??

 

[Ticken]

Posted elsewhere so whatever here u go..
update: i am extremely happy with my results and I have never been happier!! Life is amazing with amazing hair like this!!

Wow!! May I ask, How long did it take to go from far left photo to far right photo?
Do you test and would you mind sharing what blood serum estradiol levels you have been reaching with your protocol?

 

[BRezende]

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Posted elsewhere so whatever here u go..

https://imgur.com/a/mFPkevK

update: i am extremely happy with my results and I have never been happier!! Life is amazing with amazing hair like

How long are you on HRT?

 

[Almas_NW0]

The best results seems to get by E2V injections

The key is to achieve the right level of hormones. How you did it is secondary. But injections are easier to achieve the desired levels.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

her pre-hrt hairline was already better than
my current one lmao

anyways im off this site again. Just because you’d be happy with my hair doesn’t mean I have to be. Its sh*t. Its a mans hairline and not even a good one.

Your overall hair quality looks good and seems like you made tremendous strides in density. Lot of trans women end up getting hair transplants to round the corners, so if you aren't ultimately satisfied with your hairline from hrt alone then that's at least an option still

 

[losingbattle88]

My thinning is generally diffuse but I got some temple gains on my worse side, which at this point could be oral min.dutasteride and bica 72days,55 days om.
(Red dot is my scar, reference point)
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Also lowered bica to 50mg ED, since 75mg+ is overkill for hairloss in my opinion in combination with dutasteride.

I seen similar temple regrowth with just oral min.

 

[losingbattle88]

Approximately same length 2 year difference

Same length my ***.

 

[Gergely]

Same length my ***.

Fine i'll stop posting, this place is dead anyways. bye

 

[KNemo]

And wanted to say you look like regular tiktok cute/fem guy not trans girl. So you might “detransition” and be a guy instead with good hairline instead of chasing unachievable goals. Im just being honest here since you will not get that honesty on trans forums where every other word is sis/girl/baby/beautiful/cute, basically overcompensating for their true nature, being a man underneath that facade. Not against trans people but you once said you want to be either a man or women and not inbetween. Since you are on more masculine side atleast be what general society accepts as normal. Dont make your life more difficult than it is.

Not every trans forum is like that, my demasculinized man.

 

[Xader]

I dont post on those sites. I know I look like a man but….

My life can't possibly become more difficult, Im all fucked up. It’s too late to become a ‘normal man’ I’d rather become an ugly transwoman at this point. Does this look like the kind of man body women want to have sex with? Kinda nsfw idgafView attachment 175840

You can always detransition If you still have a testicles or use testosterone injections instead of estradiol.

 

[Xader]

Ah yes but then I’d go back to being a 2/10 bald man

You must choose, ugly bald head or ugly body. Honestly, a lot of mens have worse body than yours. Maybe go to gym?

 

[Xader]

Your hair is great anyway. I envy you.

 

[-specter-]

idi why im arguing on this site. point is estrogen>testosterone for me but im still unhappy with my results. I will be an ugly as hell woman post-ffs but at least i wont be as ugly as I were pre-hrt.
18 months hrt. injections + 50mg bica + 200mg prog + biotin + microneedling
bye now
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18 months to have beautiful hair, to me they are great but I understand that this is not the goal you were aiming for, as others have suggested you could add midoxidill to add an extra boost in the hairline and temples and see if you can get further improvements.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Transtimelines for sure is… emphasis on word “girl” makes it even more funnier lol, ok we get it, you are ma’am

(picked first post I could find,no cherry picking here)

To be fair, you picked a popular post with 2.4k upvotes so you'd kind of expect people fawning with words like "beautiful" etc

 

[Rysteve93]

For the bic users, How much mg are use using per day? Has anyone run bic over 1/2 years yet? Did anyone notice any improvements from upping dosages over 50mg daily?

 

[Experimentality]

This is good post from my bookmarks for those not using dutasteride because they have “good antiandrogen” in protocol. I’ve seen countless guys using cypro and bica but not using dutasteride or 5ar inhibitor in they regime which is straight up madness imo. There is NO research or paper that points out that T causes hairloss and we know 5ar2 deficient guys do not lose hair. So first reduce dht as much as you can then go on whole androgen blockade side of things. This thread/forum is hyper-focused on E2 and being trans that they forget main goal of these protocols, to restore hair.
Shoutout to @Experimentality for being man of science, linking articles and backing up his claims.

Exactly. Especially the fact that 5AR-type 2 deficient individuals are protected from androgenic hairloss is striking. Of course, 'ordinary' people without this deficiency will never be able to complete annihilate DHT, but in theory should be able to come pretty close with topical Dutasteride. Then, preventing the leftover DHT from binding with a good AR antagonist should seal the deal. The main difficulty does not lie in maintenance though, but in regrowth. Entirely different beast. However, I do suspect that years of consecutive blocking of scalp androgenic activity should eventually yield some kind of regrowth (reversing fibrosis takes time - a lot of time) - mainly based on MtF transgender individuals that eventually seem to regrow at least some hair.

My advice to anyone visiting this forum is still the same. HRT is not a smart decision if you're not trans, and you will very likely regret it. Unlike for instance the thyroid axis, the HPT axis is not resilient, and odds are you will be left hypogonadic after quitting. It will be a histologically different kind of hypogonadism than, for instance, anabolic steroids users experience (which is already problematic and the main subject on many steroid-based fora), since E2 is actually testicotoxic, whereas T is not. Hence, when you decide HRT is not for you, you may be left with a permanently attenuated testicular functioning, forcing you to resort to TRT for the rest of your life to feel like before. If you want to use E2 semi-responsibly use it topically in the right amounts (a few micrograms per mL - milligrams are HRT dosages and should be avoided).

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

The legend returns...