Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[itchymadscalp]

Misquoting me doesn’t further your argument lol. We’re discussing hairloss on a hairloss forum and unfortunately my life has been greatly affected by the aformentioned so I do spend some time here. No need to get agressive mate I didn’t mean to offend you ! My motive was not to single you out either. When gauging the effects of these drugs I think it’s important to look at things objectively.

I’m starting a similarly agressive regimen soon. If you have a thread on your experience I would be interested in reading it.

If you want to keep going with your obsession we can do that privately. Thank you.

 

[itchymadscalp]

Based on that photo if you hadn’t any idea of the before pictures or the medications you would not think ‘feminine’ you would think ‘young’

That was your first post ... and I still say the same thing : He looks more feminine. And it doesn't mean I don't think he looks younger.

subject closed little troll

 

[itchymadscalp]

You are clearly angry and for what reason I have no idea. Others have agreed with me on your bias but I don’t need to continue and I already apologized. If you had read any of my posts outside this thread you’d know it’s not my intention to troll on anyone, yourself included. Consider your honor defended and your opinion recognized on my end.

I'm not angry, I'm bored. I just said he was more feminine than before, on HRT. That's all. And I don't say that because I know hes on HRT. That's really what I think when I see his newest picture.
Again, if you want to talk about your obsession (he looks younger, not feminine), we can do that in PM ... I can copy paste what I wrote here as many times as you want.
PS : Even if others agreed with you about my "bias", I still think you're boring because of that obsession.

 

[Dehydrotestostewronged]

@itchymadscalp my body looks female

Other than gyno what changes occurred???

And this may sound like trolling, but has it changed your sexuality at all? Other personality aspects? For instance moodiness or absence of male aggression and drive, not to mention sex drive?

 

[bridgeburn]

Other than gyno what changes occurred???

And this may sound like trolling, but has it changed your sexuality at all? Other personality aspects? For instance moodiness or absence of male aggression and drive, not to mention sex drive?

some fat distribution. with my clothes off I look more hourglassy. my face looked more thin/frail before. better skin now.
chest hair is thinning. a few patches formed on the upper part of beard.
I still like girls but sexually it made me less superficial, ex. lost interest in p**rn. I became more sappy and emotional.
mood wise my default state is more mellow. I still have a great sex drive, although it is different, i have control over it and can have sex because I want to not because I need to. I haven't lost any penis functionality.

 

[abba]

Your results are looking even more impressive than antydhtor's considering how far your hairloss had progressed. If it's not too much to ask can you post a photo of your current hairline with your hair pulled back? I'm thinking of this as a possible last resort treatment for me in the future and it would be interesting to see just how much of your hairline you regrew.

 

[Dehydrotestostewronged]

some fat distribution. with my clothes off I look more hourglassy. my face looked more thin/frail before. better skin now.
chest hair is thinning. a few patches formed on the upper part of beard.
I still like girls but sexually it made me less superficial, ex. lost interest in p*rn. I became more sappy and emotional.
mood wise my default state is more mellow. I still have a great sex drive, although it is different, i have control over it and can have sex because I want to not because I need to. I haven't lost any penis functionality.

So basically everything is reversible if you get off the hormones and allow your body's testosterone levels to return to normal aside from gyno—which can be surgically corrected? They're not like female breasts are they? Like legitimately?

On a side note, how do you know gyno is starting to set in? I'm asking because I just started finasteride and I want to be able to shut that sh*t down if it starts happening to me.

 

[Jesse Navarro]

Your hair looks great. You said that you wash your hair three times a week (if i remember correctly). Did you have oily scalp? Is it very dry now? Do you use regular shampoo or something special?

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

some fat distribution. with my clothes off I look more hourglassy. my face looked more thin/frail before. better skin now.
chest hair is thinning. a few patches formed on the upper part of beard.
I still like girls but sexually it made me less superficial, ex. lost interest in p*rn. I became more sappy and emotional.
mood wise my default state is more mellow. I still have a great sex drive, although it is different, i have control over it and can have sex because I want to not because I need to. I haven't lost any penis functionality.

Bridgeburn I really respect you for sharing your experience with us and for being brave enough to show your face. I think you look great and you have inspired me to attempt a less hardcore version of your method for myself. I'm going to try 50mg of spironolactone and 1mg topical estradiol per day for 3 to 6 months. I might be willing to double the doses if I dont get the desired results. Thanks for hanging around to keep us updated.

 

[Dehydrotestostewronged]

Bridgeburn I really respect you for sharing your experience with us and for being brave enough to show your face. I think you look great and you have inspired me to attempt a less hardcore version of your method for myself. I'm going to try 50mg of spironolactone and 1mg topical estradiol per day for 3 to 6 months. I might be willing to double the doses if I dont get the desired results. Thanks for hanging around to keep us updated.

I'd be very interested in following this progression. I'm curious what the minimum effective dosage is and if the minimal effective dose to elicit hair regeneration is less than the dose necessary to trigger gyno and other feminizing characteristics, much like the 1mg vs 5mg finasteride differential.

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

I'd be very interested in following this progression. I'm curious what the minimum effective dosage is and if the minimal effective dose to elicit hair regeneration is less than the dose necessary to trigger gyno and other feminizing characteristics, much like the 1mg vs 5mg finasteride differential.

Well there are a couple of threads on this site I looked up after discovering this one. There are a few people here who got great regrowth from just spironolactone alone and claimed to have no gyno but that is rare, usually people only grow back hair with spironolactone and estradiol which is more likely to cause some gyno. I'm going with lower doses so my hope is that after 6 months or so I will stop taking the drugs and the small amount of gyno I might have will go away and my ideally thicker hair will remain for a couple of years.

This guys thread which is also on the front page of success stories is a perfect example. https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/you-might-be-interested-in-reading-this.110443/

He has amazing regrowth with no gyno and has been on just spironolactone for 5 years! Bridgeburn and Americanhairlines are really giving me hope. My hair isn't nearly as far gone as theirs was when they started treatment so I'm hoping that I wont need to take as high dosages for as long. They took a chance and its worked great for them.

 

[Dehydrotestostewronged]

Well there are a couple of threads on this site I looked up after discovering this one. There are a few people here who got great regrowth from just spironolactone alone and claimed to have no gyno but that is rare, usually people only grow back hair with spironolactone and estradiol which is more likely to cause some gyno. I'm going with lower doses so my hope is that after 6 months or so I will stop taking the drugs and the small amount of gyno I might have will go away and my ideally thicker hair will remain for a couple of years.

Yeah I definitely want to follow your progress. If this is doable while minimizing feminizing effects with careful dosing its worth it.

 

[rupture]

Bridge you did it and you look great man at least 10 years younger and a wad of f*****g hair. props bro

 

[bridgeburn]

If it's not too much to ask can you post a photo of your current hairline with your hair pulled back?

current:

compared to baseline:

 

[bridgeburn]

So basically everything is reversible if you get off the hormones and allow your body's testosterone levels to return to normal aside from gyno—which can be surgically corrected?

If on hormones a long time, it might be difficult to get sperm production/ fertility back..

They're not like female breasts are they? Like legitimately?

they are like female breasts

On a side note, how do you know gyno is starting to set in? I'm asking because I just started finasteride and I want to be able to shut that sh*t down if it starts happening to me.

the first signs will be lumps behind your nipples and nipples becoming a bit more puffy.
That's possible to happen on finasteride, but it won't form actual breasts like with my regimen.

 

[bridgeburn]

You said that you wash your hair three times a week (if i remember correctly). Did you have oily scalp? Is it very dry now? Do you use regular shampoo or something special?

yeah i wash it whenever i feel like it. so about 2 to 3 times a week. It was oily, but now its dry. Ive been using Nizoral but will run out soon.

 

[Dehydrotestostewronged]

If on hormones a long time, it might be difficult to get sperm production/ fertility back..

they are like female breasts

the first signs will be lumps behind your nipples and nipples becoming a bit more puffy.
That's possible to happen on finasteride, but it won't form actual breasts like with my regimen.

Yeah that's what I figured. I wasn't really aware of how my nipples felt prior, so it's hard to know. is there any other signs you can know to cease and desist prior to the formation of notable gyno? pain? If I press on my nipples I definitely feel something on the upper edge only. But in the center its hollow.

 

[Marky]

they might but might not if youve been bald too long. yeah they always start vellus before slowly getting thicker, I have some inbetween vellus and terminal too.


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It's all doing great and better except the center of the temples. That's still the hardest to recover. I dont think its getting worse at least

Phenomenal results, imagine a TV commercial going on prime time with your before and after pics, wonder how many baldites in the population would be willing to give it a try. It make propecia and rogaine look like childs play - which for most people there results are.

 

[Marky]

current:
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compared to baseline:
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Whats the day to day like with your rejuvenated youth? More looks from woman, less getting generally snubbed?
Do you feel like John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever surrounded by cheering?

 

[The last of the follicles]

Whats the day to day like with your rejuvenated youth? More looks from woman, less getting generally snubbed?
Do you feel like John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever surrounded by cheering?

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I think he feels more like Uma after she snorted heroine instead of coke. I pity the dude but understand how and why he did this to himself.