Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[JaneyElizabeth]

I think it definitely varies from individual to individual. I know plenty of people who are happy with smaller breasts. But obviously breast growth can be seen as a feminizing attribute so as such many mtfs might feel insufficiently feminine without it. Personally, while I wish I had a little larger breasts, attributes like facial feminizing and hair were the top priorities in my transition

I started realizing that regardless, my breasts make it so I don't get clocked but I don't anyway and I am sure you don't.

 

[Androgenic Alpaca]

Yeah I was going to say, consuming straight alcohol like that is a level of insanity not even I would approach.

The alcohol isn't much of a big deal. 1ml of minoxidil solution would be a negligible amount of alcohol. It most likely is denatured, meaning that it contains stuff in it other than alcohol that could be potentially hazardous when ingested. Again, its probably in small enough doses that it would be mostly harmless

The real concern in drinking minoxidil solution is the minoxidil itself. 1ml of 5% minoxidil solution contains 50mg of minoxidil... that's just an idiotic amount to consume orally. People on this forum are going to get someone killed from having too much minoxidil.

If you want to make OTC minoxidil solution suitable for oral consumption, I'd dilute 1ml of OTC solution in 49 ml of vodka and consume 1 - 2 ml of this diluted solution per day. That is a reasonable amount of oral minoxidil and any denaturing components used in the minoxidil solution will be further diluted.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

It was already in the 500s when I got here, it's because bridgeburn was an absolute f*****g madlad and a daredevil and decided to just do whatever he had to do in order to get his mf hair back, and for that even though we seem to be on opposing sides of the political spectrum - I respect and salute him for his bravery.

To quote the tagline of the SAS: Qui audet adipiscitur, who dares wins.

I use him as an archtype. He's gone but if I say his name, people give me credence.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

I use him as an archtype. He's gone but if I say his name, people give me credence.

He's still around, he just comes on discord rather than here

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

The alcohol isn't much of a big deal. 1ml of minoxidil solution would be a negligible amount of alcohol. It most likely is denatured, meaning that it contains stuff in it other than alcohol that could be potentially hazardous when ingested. Again, its probably in small enough doses that it would be mostly harmless

The real concern in drinking minoxidil solution is the minoxidil itself. 1ml of 5% minoxidil solution contains 50mg of minoxidil... that's just an idiotic amount to consume orally. People on this forum are going to get someone killed from having too much minoxidil.

If you want to make OTC minoxidil solution suitable for oral consumption, I'd dilute 1ml of OTC solution in 49 ml of vodka and consume 1 - 2 ml of this diluted solution per day. That is a reasonable amount of oral minoxidil and any denaturing components used in the minoxidil solution will be further diluted.

It's our hero answering questions at 2 am but I guess I am too.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

He's still around, he just comes on discord rather than here

The whole thread to me was almost like a novel. I knew that was my path and no MtF's ever talk about hair. I read the first 15 pages over and over.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

The alcohol isn't much of a big deal. 1ml of minoxidil solution would be a negligible amount of alcohol. It most likely is denatured, meaning that it contains stuff in it other than alcohol that could be potentially hazardous when ingested. Again, its probably in small enough doses that it would be mostly harmless

The real concern in drinking minoxidil solution is the minoxidil itself. 1ml of 5% minoxidil solution contains 50mg of minoxidil... that's just an idiotic amount to consume orally. People on this forum are going to get someone killed from having too much minoxidil.

If you want to make OTC minoxidil solution suitable for oral consumption, I'd dilute 1ml of OTC solution in 49 ml of vodka and consume 1 - 2 ml of this diluted solution per day. That is a reasonable amount of oral minoxidil and any denaturing components used in the minoxidil solution will be further diluted.

I think even that would make me quite nervous, I've thought of trying proper oral minoxidil but are there any recorded issues of minoxidil causing vascular problems? Such as varicose veins or expanded veins or even venous insufficiency in your junk area?

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

The alcohol isn't much of a big deal. 1ml of minoxidil solution would be a negligible amount of alcohol. It most likely is denatured, meaning that it contains stuff in it other than alcohol that could be potentially hazardous when ingested. Again, its probably in small enough doses that it would be mostly harmless

The real concern in drinking minoxidil solution is the minoxidil itself. 1ml of 5% minoxidil solution contains 50mg of minoxidil... that's just an idiotic amount to consume orally. People on this forum are going to get someone killed from having too much minoxidil.

If you want to make OTC minoxidil solution suitable for oral consumption, I'd dilute 1ml of OTC solution in 49 ml of vodka and consume 1 - 2 ml of this diluted solution per day. That is a reasonable amount of oral minoxidil and any denaturing components used in the minoxidil solution will be further diluted.

Ethanol is the base. Well, I started using a dropper each morning on October 20 and it works I don't overthink it. It's all edible but I want my hair cause I have a ball to attend....

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Interesting, I couldn't find anything on venous insufficiency, but apparently oral minoxidil may actually increase elastin deposition in mature venous structures.

Medicine that slows balding may turn stiff vessels supple, helping vital organs

A medicine that slows balding and stimulates hair growth also may make stiff vessels more stretchy and improve blood flow to vital organs like the brain, according to an experimental model study.

www.sciencedaily.com

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Interesting, I couldn't find anything on venous insufficiency, but apparently oral minoxidil may actually increase elastin deposition in mature venous structures.

Medicine that slows balding may turn stiff vessels supple, helping vital organs

A medicine that slows balding and stimulates hair growth also may make stiff vessels more stretchy and improve blood flow to vital organs like the brain, according to an experimental model study.

www.sciencedaily.com

It was originally prescribed as a blood pressure med, so makes sense

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

The alcohol isn't much of a big deal. 1ml of minoxidil solution would be a negligible amount of alcohol. It most likely is denatured, meaning that it contains stuff in it other than alcohol that could be potentially hazardous when ingested. Again, its probably in small enough doses that it would be mostly harmless

The real concern in drinking minoxidil solution is the minoxidil itself. 1ml of 5% minoxidil solution contains 50mg of minoxidil... that's just an idiotic amount to consume orally. People on this forum are going to get someone killed from having too much minoxidil.

If you want to make OTC minoxidil solution suitable for oral consumption, I'd dilute 1ml of OTC solution in 49 ml of vodka and consume 1 - 2 ml of this diluted solution per day. That is a reasonable amount of oral minoxidil and any denaturing components used in the minoxidil solution will be further diluted.

My dropper says 25ml but that can't be milliliters. Microliters? Anyway, I fill it up to the bottom line of the four. It's a tiny amount and tastes like quinine. It's supposed to equal 12.5 mg.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

It was originally prescribed as a blood pressure med, so makes sense

My theory is once you have it back then you can go on maintenance and women use far less oral minoxidil but you gotta grow it first.

 

[Androgenic Alpaca]

I think even that would make me quite nervous, I've thought of trying proper oral minoxidil but are there any recorded issues of minoxidil causing vascular problems? Such as varicose veins or expanded veins or even venous insufficiency in your junk area?

Yeah you have got it right. You have to be very careful with oral minoxidil. At high doses (I've seen people say they take up to 50+ mg/day) my bigger concern would be sudden death, organ failure, brain damage, etc.

Consider though that a small amount of topical minoxidil will also systematic. So even with topical application, you'll be having minor systematic effects. So if you have a serious cardiovascular condition I'd stay away from even the topical stuff.

Personally, I'm taking a very small dose of oral minoxidil (just over 1mg/day). Long term, my goal is to get off of it once it's helped with regrowth, partially because of any potential negative cardiovascular effects.

 

[Androgenic Alpaca]

minoxidil is really just a blood pressure medication that happens to have a side effect of hair regrowth

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

My theory is once you have it back then you can go on maintenance and women use far less oral minoxidil but you gotta grow it first.

Greatest day of my life when I got my minoxidil for the first time in 1989.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Yeah you have got it right. You have to be very careful with oral minoxidil. At high doses (I've seen people say they take up to 50+ mg/day) my bigger concern would be sudden death, organ failure, brain damage, etc.

Consider though that a small amount of topical minoxidil will also systematic. So even with topical application, you'll be having minor systematic effects. So if you have a serious cardiovascular condition I'd stay away from even the topical stuff.

Personally, I'm taking a very small dose of oral minoxidil (just over 1mg/day). Long term, my goal is to get off of it once it's helped with regrowth, partially because of any potential negative cardiovascular effects.

Do you feel like such a low dosage has worked out at all? Even if it is more incremental?

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

minoxidil is really just a blood pressure medication that happens to have a side effect of hair regrowth

It's like bugs versus features....

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Yeah you have got it right. You have to be very careful with oral minoxidil. At high doses (I've seen people say they take up to 50+ mg/day) my bigger concern would be sudden death, organ failure, brain damage, etc.

Consider though that a small amount of topical minoxidil will also systematic. So even with topical application, you'll be having minor systematic effects. So if you have a serious cardiovascular condition I'd stay away from even the topical stuff.

Personally, I'm taking a very small dose of oral minoxidil (just over 1mg/day). Long term, my goal is to get off of it once it's helped with regrowth, partially because of any potential negative cardiovascular effects.

Well the concern isn't so much vascular as it is edema in vital organs, since it can cause pericardial effusion

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Do you feel like such a low dosage has worked out at all? Even if it is more incremental?

You don't need much. 2.5 mg is plenty. I am trying to copy the founder.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

So apparently minoxidil even though it is a blood pressure medication can improve vascular tone, I'm really really puzzled about this medication.