Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[coco_304]

tnx
but....
why using sprio and flutamida
they not doing the same?

 

[yourworld001]

[QUOTE = "coco_304, post: 1715149, member: 41812"] Estoy confundido y no sé qué tomar para la caída del cabello
¿Quizás me puedas recomendar? [/ QUOTE]
en mi caso, lo que reduce mi caída es un antiandrógeno y estrógeno, uso flutamida y estrógenos + finasterida y cuando agrego espironolactona, no pierdo cabello. mi régimen más fuerte fue 5 mg de finasterida + 200 mg de espironolactona + 500 mg de flutamida y 6 mg de estradiol.
actualmente 1 mg de finasterida + 500 mg de flutamuda + 4 mg de estradiol + ketoconazol 2% de champú y rogaína

 

[Guido]

Jajajajajaji dont speak english. Google traductor

 

[coco_304]

why using cypo and dutas togther?
they not doing that same ?
why using sprio and flutamida
they not doing the same?

 

[Letsdoit]

I have decided to try this route aswell. Starting with cypoterone 12.5 mg and estradiol patches 50 mg. Is it possible to microdose with arimidex to counter boobs?

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

Allright things are getting strange now. I allready looked young for my age but now I legit look like a teenager. A random woman at staples asked me the other day my opinion on something as a student. I havent been a student for 10 years. My nipples get puffy now sometimes. I cant get a full erection unless I'm watching p**rn. I could beat my meat all day and nothing will happen without p**rn. I dont know how long I will be able to keep this going for. I'm thinking of cutting my estradiol down to 1.5 mg and cypro dose down to 12.5 mg every other day. I'm pretty sure I have no testosterone right now given the tiredness and difficulty getting erections. The idea is to have low test not no test right?

Bridgeburn what do you think?

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

On the bright side my muscles havent been affected. My biceps just reached a new peak. I remember the rock talking in an interview once about how he used to have some gyno and got surgury to remove it so I looked up some pictures. Yeah he had some but because of all the muscle he still looks awesome. As long as mine never gets worse than the rocks I'll be happy.

 

[Marky]

Allright things are getting strange now. I allready looked young for my age but now I legit look like a teenager. A random woman at staples asked me the other day my opinion on something as a student. I havent been a student for 10 years. My nipples get puffy now sometimes. I cant get a full erection unless I'm watching p*rn. I could beat my meat all day and nothing will happen without p*rn. I dont know how long I will be able to keep this going for. I'm thinking of cutting my estradiol down to 1.5 mg and cypro dose down to 12.5 mg every other day. I'm pretty sure I have no testosterone right now given the tiredness and difficulty getting erections. The idea is to have low test not no test right?

Bridgeburn what do you think?

Are you using estradiol gel? If you only use .5g (or is it mg?) on the scalp it shouldn't go systemic much (someone said on here). And maybe it's all you need for hair regrowth purpose just as finasteride is 1mg while prostate drug proscar is 5mg.

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

Are you using estradiol gel? If you only use .5g (or is it mg?) on the scalp it shouldn't go systemic much (someone said on here). And maybe it's all you need for hair regrowth purpose just as finasteride is 1mg while prostate drug proscar is 5mg.

Yes I am using gel and yeah I meant g not mg. It doesent matter how small the dose it will go systemic but maybe over time a small conservative dose will have great results for hair and less of everything else. Some people get great results from just spironolactone so I imagine there estradiol levels probably arent even that high.

 

[Louisa]

Yes I am using gel and yeah I meant g not mg. It doesent matter how small the dose it will go systemic but maybe over time a small conservative dose will have great results for hair and less of everything else. Some people get great results from just spironolactone so I imagine there estradiol levels probably arent even that high.

Overall do you feel like your hair is growing back?

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

Overall do you feel like your hair is growing back?

You know I did but this past week I started shedding a ton of hair. I usually shed alot anyways but this past week has been crazy. Pretty much right after since I posted about my improved hair I noticed the increased shed. It's weird it's like I have more hair in some places but less hair in some places from before I started treatment. From what Ive read on other forums this is a somewhat common occurance when starting hrt. Usually after a few moths the shedding stops and regrowth starts. Ive been shedding hardcore on and off since I started 3 months ago so I hope that I'm about over the inital shedding phase.

 

[Dayday]

On the bright side my muscles havent been affected. My biceps just reached a new peak. I remember the rock talking in an interview once about how he used to have some gyno and got surgury to remove it so I looked up some pictures. Yeah he had some but because of all the muscle he still looks awesome. As long as mine never gets worse than the rocks I'll be happy.


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Are u being serious when you say your muscles havent been affected?

 

[Marky]

Yes I am using gel and yeah I meant g not mg. It doesent matter how small the dose it will go systemic but maybe over time a small conservative dose will have great results for hair and less of everything else. Some people get great results from just spironolactone so I imagine there estradiol levels probably arent even that high.

This is what I've been debating is it better to go higher does for short period or lower doses for longer periods.

I'm leaning towards the later, this won't shock the hair as much and ultimately create a more favorable scalp environment so the hair can what it does naturally without forcing things. I think this would also be better for when you want to wean or cycle off the stuff with the goal in mind of maintaining with little or no continuation of the regimen. Maybe there's a patient way to do it - I don't think anyone could or wants to be on this stuff all their life. Maybe a good analogy would be jumping starting a dead car battery, just keep the car running until the battery recharges on it's own.

Does anyone know if transgenders have to take HRT for the rest of their life, that would be expensive.

 

[Marky]

hmm interesting video basically saying the opposite of what we've come to know here, T is good and E is bad for hair.

 

[BetaBoy]

hmm interesting video basically saying the opposite of what we've come to know here, T is good and E is bad for hair.

Is this guy an actual doctor? He seems to be rather big on pseudoscience, the suggestion that bottled water causes hair loss is probably one of the most outlandish claims I have heard, truly Alex Jones level nutty.

 

[Marky]

Is this guy an actual doctor? He seems to be rather big on pseudoscience, the suggestion that bottled water causes hair loss is probably one of the most outlandish claims I have heard, truly Alex Jones level nutty.

"Dr. Sam Robbins" so yes he does appear to be a doctor. Plus his claim of fat people having estrogen and turns out they are bald too.
Well I'm sure we've all seen fat people with a good head of hair and Mr Olympia's with bald heads.

 

[Louisa]

Women when pregnant have high estrogen and hair grows extra thick.

 

[KSA]

Allright things are getting strange now. I allready looked young for my age but now I legit look like a teenager. A random woman at staples asked me the other day my opinion on something as a student. I havent been a student for 10 years. My nipples get puffy now sometimes. I cant get a full erection unless I'm watching p*rn. I could beat my meat all day and nothing will happen without p*rn. I dont know how long I will be able to keep this going for. I'm thinking of cutting my estradiol down to 1.5 mg and cypro dose down to 12.5 mg every other day. I'm pretty sure I have no testosterone right now given the tiredness and difficulty getting erections. The idea is to have low test not no test right?

Bridgeburn what do you think?

I’m curious too : ) I’m starting cypro soon after a waste of 9 months on spironolactone. Definitely works really well for some but not for me, so i’d be curious to know what’s going on here. While spironolactone did thin out my sebum it did not dry out my skin as reported by friends who took the drug or in comparison to my own experience w non-steroidal AA Flutamide, I do have a very reduced sex drive on spironolactone. From what I read, Cypro's blocking effect doesn't kick in at smaller doses but it certainly lowers the t production?
Bridgeburn is the expert and I trust him as he always very kindly explains his detailed research and decisions. x KSA

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

Are u being serious when you say your muscles havent been affected?

Yeah so far so good. Although It takes longer for them to recover.

 

[bridgeburn]

ive been a bit busy, but will respond to everybody.

I will reduce my regimen, I will use 1 mg of finasteride a day, 500 mg of flutamide and 4 mg of valerate estradiol.
how about?.

its a good regimen. i think bicalutimide is better if you can get it.

but what were you taking just topically and did you feel like that alone might be decent enough for growth?

ive used minoxidil and estrogel topically. there were a couple brief times i used diane topically (crushed some pills in a bottle of rosemary extract and added a bit DMSO)

I think it will go at least partially systematic anyway if only topically. might be effective but depends how thick and fibrotic the scalp skin is. I think dermarolling or topical corticosteriods would help respond to it

why using cypo and dutas togther?
they not doing that same ?

they dont do the same thing. dutas prevents testosterone from turning into dht. cypro lowers testosterone and blocks androgen receptors . its synergistic this way.

I have decided to try this route aswell. Starting with cypoterone 12.5 mg and estradiol patches 50 mg. Is it possible to microdose with arimidex to counter boobs?

seems a bit neutralizing to use patches with it, unless you put the patches on your head. (or on your nutsack)

My nipples get puffy now sometimes. I cant get a full erection unless I'm watching p*rn. I could beat my meat all day and nothing will happen without p*rn. I dont know how long I will be able to keep this going for. I'm thinking of cutting my estradiol down to 1.5 mg and cypro dose down to 12.5 mg every other day.

damn that sucks, instead of lowering, you could try popping v**** or cialis.

remember, drugs are always the answer...



Or try shooting meth up your dick...

actually please don't do that but I heard some people do that and bang all night..

I'm pretty sure I have no testosterone right now given the tiredness and difficulty getting erections. The idea is to have low test not no test right?

Bridgeburn what do you think?

well, for me I don't want any testosterone.

I think results will depend how heavy one is willing to go. sh*t id probably blast darolutimide if if was commercially available. even the fact cypros a very weak partial agonist worries me

I'm thinking of cutting my estradiol down to 1.5 mg and cypro dose down to 12.5 mg every other day.

When i was on 50mg cypro and 1.5mg estrogel only on scalp.. (thats 2.5g gel equal to 1.5mg e) I still started developing gyno, got more puffy nipples and some small lumps which continued to form, not nearly what i got now though but not sure how much it wouldve continued if i had stayed on that dose consistently.

I think with that regimen cypro and tiny amount E. it may wont lower T to total castrate range, it should be close though. but since this reg doesnt change our aromatase levels as far as i know, most of the little T made will probly aromatize.

Does anyone know if transgenders have to take HRT for the rest of their life, that would be expensive.

yeah they do. if they get nuts removed they can come off antiandrogens but still need E.

Yeah so far so good. Although It takes longer for them to recover.

It can take many months or several years to lose muscle if you have a good amount. though you may be able to maintain them, it will be more effort.