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I don't think plucking is a good idea. You can essentially cause your own form of traction/scarring alopecia wherein those hairs don't grow back after a point
These were all deformed and came out easily and my hair looks nicer now to me. It was only about 10 maybe. Surprisingly plucking with purpose can induce growth even the follicles are close to each other.
 

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It looks like everybody here seems to be talking about plucking, I can see why it could help, but I don't think I would have the courage to do that lol. Just hair on my pillow makes me feel uneasy. Tomorrow I am going for my last hormone blood test before starting HRT, I will be doing T, Free T, E2 and DHT. I'm a bit anxious about the last one, I hope it turns out that Fina is doing it's job properly.
 

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It looks like everybody here seems to be talking about plucking, I can see why it could help, but I don't think I would have the courage to do that lol. Just hair on my pillow makes me feel uneasy. Tomorrow I am going for my last hormone blood test before starting HRT, I will be doing T, Free T, E2 and DHT. I'm a bit anxious about the last one, I hope it turns out that Fina is doing it's job properly.
Yes. I posted on my thread an interesting study about hair plucking and regrowth. You either want to only do scattered small areas, or ,and this is my conjecture, pluck any hair that is detrimental to appearance which are generally either corkscrewed in shape or stick right up and,won't lie flat. But in my case, all such hair is also either an unnatural gray or blond in color.

But to be safe, I also microneedled right after and that will cause stem cells to become activated and presumably improve hair outcomes even in terms of texture and shape.
 

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Yes. I posted on my thread an interesting study about hair plucking and regrowth. You either want to only do scattered small areas, or ,and this is my conjecture, pluck any hair that is detrimental to appearance which are generally either corkscrewed in shape or stick right up and,won't lie flat. But in my case, all such hair is also either an unnatural gray or blond in color.

But to be safe, I also microneedled right after and that will cause stem cells to become activated and presumably improve hair outcomes even in terms of texture and shape.
Interesting, maybe I will try it, but only when on HRT and after I notice some results, as then my hair loss anxiety should subside lol.
 

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These were all deformed and came out easily and my hair looks nicer now to me. It was only about 10 maybe. Surprisingly plucking with purpose can induce growth even the follicles are close to each other.
Well it was based on a study with rats that showed plucking small sparse hairs were destructive but plucking lots of hair in a given area signaled growth of new follicles from the wounding. Essentially same idea behind microneedling
 

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Well it was based on a study with rats that showed plucking small sparse hairs were destructive but plucking lots of hair in a given area signaled growth of new follicles from the wounding. Essentially same idea behind microneedling
That's why you are my favorite! <blushes>

So concisely stated and yep, that's pretty much what the article said and I also equate it to microneedling. I had done it religiously now for 24 months and I still see areas with scar tissue that are improving. I see a lot of temple hair growth only these are the good types of little white hairs because there are also new longer black hairs coming in. The hair is canopying forward as I call it and this is looking more and more that I might make it back to this:
 

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Well it was based on a study with rats that showed plucking small sparse hairs were destructive but plucking lots of hair in a given area signaled growth of new follicles from the wounding. Essentially same idea behind microneedling
It felt quite a bit like weeding the garden in terms of goal with respect to nutrients. The other thing was that such hairs seemed to grow in either pairs or triplicate so that might indicate poor blood interaction below what's needed for gentlewomanly hair. I think this is from before plucking but it wasn't that many.
 

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A little update as to what's going on with me. I have arrived in the UK on Thursday ,tomorrow I can take a covid test to end my self isolation period early. I have already contacted some online pharmacies and I plan to order HRT any day now.

Everything would be great if not for my blood test results I got before leaving my country. My E2 is lower by about 10% and both my T and Free T are up by about 10%.

But then my DHT is 1229 pg/ml! At first I thought Fina is not working, but I do feel some effects, plus T is up so I think that is not the case. This means that my DHT level is simply sky high, before Fina it would be somewhere in the 2000s. If this kind of thing runs in my family, no wonder my father and grandfather went bald so early.

I've had enough of this, I'm going on HRT as soon as I can, and I'm going to get the poison called androgens out of my body once and for all. In this situation I'd take gyno over baldness anyday, with such crap genes only HRT can help me.
 
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I have gone through all of this again and you are absolutely right. I am not begging anyone to go on finasteride anymore. Unless they have a valid excuse, it's pointless. Most males don't care enough about their hair to take a bleeding pill once a day and zero of this is replicable for any XY's without estradiol and large amounts and I think the breast growth/gyno thing is something that I am going to shut up about too because you either want your hair back or you don't and if you want your hair back like I did then you take your HRT meds and you don't pay attention to breast growth at all. No more questions about Serms. They are a waste of time because we we have in reach is so overwhelmingly good that I would take E cups and wear them gladly or get them reduced. Anyone playing the I will stop if I see gyno game, then MtF HRT is not for you. It won't work and you will shed and then become obsessive about it when all you really have to do is that the Estrofem tablet and just wait. That's all you need on our side of the ledger and technically we only need finasteride for maintenance and yes, then someone might maintain luscious locks forever. Noah was young and Bridge was pretty young but I am 57 and I am having amazing results and yes, apparently, you can regrow all of the hair in the temples--don't fail me now, Goddess and this is so good that everyone should feel how amazing it is.

People obviously can do what they want and different approaches might work but basically if anyone wants to grow hair with HRT, then just do exactly what Bridge did, exactly and then microneedle once a week and then tell me it doesn't work. Yes, you can titrate upwards but if you don't need to, then that's just a delay but otherwise your current levels are meaningless. Until 2020 in June, I never came close to hitting levels but I have been microneedling for two years straight with min. retin-A and Estrogel and I continue to use generous amounts of Estrogel but unless you have ten years like transgender females, you just want to hit targets like Bridge did, as fast as you can. Use AA's; it won't matter but you might shed but shedding is the best thing that happened to me and Bridge didn't have enough hair to shed to begin with. If you are worried about sheds, then develop a plan to get through them without stopping or I advise dropping out now unless one is doing research and research is great but fooling around a bunch isn't going to get you guys long locks like when you were 18 like I currently have and microneedling might be necessary for some but Bridge didn't do that but it's impossible in my view for microneedling to have deleterious effects in normal use. All of that stuff about tear impact is garbage and rollers might work better than pens but both are useful but which one can you just buy and use right away? The rollers.

I am still long-winded but I am now mostly posting three pics over two years, well I produce three of my cueball and the progression is cueball then after a year, sort of eh, not sure, to magnificent and enthralled and full of incredible joy and the microneedling and estrogen all the face make everyone more attractive especially with beard removal. No, we won't be mister tough but I am more Roger Moore than Sean Connery and I have always felt that Sean Connery was a big hairy balding blob compared to the erudite and dasingly attractive Mr. Moore but different strokes but I feel like I know the looks that females respond to and it's both but more so to Mr. Moore. Now Bond tortures and stuff so I won't watch a single bit of it, not to mention it's pretty stupid now that the cold war is over but that opinion is for free.

A little update as to what's going on with me. I have arrived in the UK on Thursday ,tomorrow I can take a covid test to end my self isolation period early. I have already contacted some online pharmacies and I plan to order HRT any day now.

Everything would be great if not for my blood test results I got before leaving my country. My E2 is lower by about 10% and both my T and Free T are up by about 10%.

But then my DHT is 1229 pg/ml! At first I thought Fina is not working, but I do feel some effects, plus T is up so I think this is not the case. This means that my DHT level is simply skh high, before Fina it would be somewhere in the 2000s. If this kind of thing runs in my family, no wonder my father and grandfather went bald so early.

I've had enough of this, I'm going on HRT as soon as I can, and I'm going to get the poison called androgens out of my body once and for all. In this situation I'd take gyno over baldness anyday, with such crap genes only HRT can help me.
 

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You are absolutely right, @JaneyElizabeth , Estrogen is the only hope for people like me.

After seeing my DHT levels, I'm sure of it. Fina is too weak, Transplants are expensive and with no guarantee of being possible for everyone, Duta might stop further loss, but I doubt i'd get any regrowth. This leaves me with HRT. My regimen will consist of Estrogel, CPA/Bica depending on the price and availability, and since I already started I won't drop the Fina. I also decided to start with a higher dose of E2, about 6mg a day to minimise gyno. But if it happens it happens, I've stopped caring at this point. Even if I have to deal with full blown feminization, I'll take that over baldness. I won't go out of my way to present female, but if I end up looking that way, so be it.

Enough is enough, I'm one of those people for whom hair is life, and I won't give up until I get it back.
 

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You are absolutely right, @JaneyElizabeth , Estrogen is the only hope for people like me.

After seeing my DHT levels, I'm sure of it. Fina is too weak, Transplants are expensive and with no guarantee of being possible for everyone, Duta might stop further loss, but I doubt i'd get any regrowth. This leaves me with HRT. My regimen will consist of Estrogel, CPA/Bica depending on the price and availability, and since I already started I won't drop the Fina. I also decided to start with a higher dose of E2, about 6mg a day to minimise gyno. But if it happens it happens, I've stopped caring at this point. Even if I have to deal with full blown feminization, I'll take that over baldness. I won't go out of my way to present female, but if I end up looking that way, so be it.

Enough is enough, I'm one of those people for whom hair is life, and I won't give up until I get it back.
I go out now and some times they say Ms. and so I answer as Jane and some times they say Mr. and then I answer to Wiliam. I am not changing any of my information because you can still use your old name after changing it legally as long as it isn't to defraud and I don't worry about my voice but it's still apparently male. I hated the Adam's apple regardless and that was covered by insurance but this was my plan for Janey and Will to meet in the middle and see what happens and it's fascinating to me to judge how people react to me without correcting their pronouns or emphasizing Jane unless it is with my HRT endo/PA. It's fine for other trans folks to be insistent but I never said I was only female or fully female or that my life as a male was tragic. It was pretty Goddess-damn good until I blew out all of my self-esteem. Somebody asked me last night if I was transgender all along or just in it for my hair (love that phrase) and I told him that I am not sure that I can answer that because hair is too conflated with females and youth hormonally but somehow none of us are ready when it comes. As soon as the beard hits guys, start looking for hair loss. Same with chest hair and leg hair if someone has tons; that's statistically a bad sign even though I know some guys are hairy and have big beards and great hair and that's why we remember them because it was unusual. I wasn't checking anyone out but I noticed right away that increased body hair seem correlated with less scalp hair. I expect you to have much more success now that I might have said a couple of months ago but the corners of my temples weren't filing in yet then and I realize that microneedling might be the game changer for people on HRT who get still very little regrowth if any.

I am going to keep posting and studying but I am enthused about people prospects especially since as I said, the people complaining were producing anything. Yes, it was distracting perhaps if they were getting alerts but nobody had posted in ages and now Tato and the kid from Russia is gone and the other folks maintain their privacy for whom this works and I chose to write a lot but also to post pics for every step for six years straight and since Rob English couldn't even find the equivalent of me or Bridge, although she was pretty close, that was it that he had in terms of data or evidence except for anecdotes about castratees from the past which are on point but I read that article and that made me say I am doing this and then someone told me about Bridge's thread and so now we have two data points with pics of every step. But words alone are worthless and maybe even I exaggerate on my good days but five days later, out come more pics. Nobody else is doing this because of the shame and I wouldn't be doing it unless I took a leap of faith based upon my knowledge of estrogen and at first people sniffed and said anyone could grow hair on HRT but that didn't turn out to be correct at all so then I got hesitant about saying much positive so not to appear bragging or whatever but dudes who complained? Where's your content? Where's your pics. Bring some content maybe and not sniff that we've already seen those photos. Who cares? The are revolutionary because they provide proof that no other trannies are providing or able to provide due to shame and when something unequivocably works, I am going to yell it out and then yell it some more. Anyway, I will keep my thread because that makes more sense but I was driving most of the content on here before and I made a mission statement last October and Janey was pretty much right on target. So I am elated and I hope some of you will experience this too.... I have a definite schtik to this and I enjoy being a bit dramatic but everybody's always so grumpy since Bridge left. Miracles are possible even at 50.

Goddess Bless,
Janey
 

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Where are you guys who complained about the content on this thread? Now, it's dead. They should post only the Bridge part and dump the rest. I think we were at 574 when I started and so pages are up huge but we used to have four to six guys who posted all of the time. Come over to Hair is not Life and post there and anyone with questions, please post there. also I have no idea why but I can't get alerts to work for this thread.

Janey
 

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I haven’t disappeared anywhere. I'll be back in a few months
Exactly 2 months of HRT, no dynamics. I have a terrible feeling, but I will wait 6 months for final conclusions.
I banned myself to get rid of the addiction to write here. From now on, I will only write on the case.

@Solxama ,You are on the right track. Удачи.
 

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I haven’t disappeared anywhere. I'll be back in a few months
Exactly 2 months of HRT, no dynamics. I have a terrible feeling, but I will wait 6 months for final conclusions.
I banned myself to get rid of the addiction to write here. From now on, I will only write on the case.

@Solxama ,You are on the right track. Удачи.
Are you the Almas?
 

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Are you the Almas?
Yes it's me. And I'm still hopeless. My tiny hairs have not changed in any way in two months of HRT, in fact, I got worse during this time. I seem to be doomed. I'll write in a couple of months about my dynamics
I blocked my old account myself. I wanted to stop spamming here
 
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JaneyElizabeth

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Yes it's me. And I'm still hopeless. My tiny hairs have not changed in any way in two months of HRT, in fact, I got worse during this time. I seem to be doomed. I'll write in a couple of months about my dynamics
I blocked my old account myself. I wanted to stop spamming here
You are like the third one on this thread to do that to themself. I blew up my facebook account. They said that my nipples were inappropriate based upon their screening software but I am an XY I argued. I wanted to shut it down and go out in flames. I got all of my pics off it.
 

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Yes it's me. And I'm still hopeless. My tiny hairs have not changed in any way in two months of HRT, in fact, I got worse during this time. I seem to be doomed. I'll write in a couple of months about my dynamics
I blocked my old account myself. I wanted to stop spamming here
Sorry to hear... I hope things get better for you... What was ur old account name... Even I'm on the same boat..
 

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Yes it's me. And I'm still hopeless. My tiny hairs have not changed in any way in two months of HRT, in fact, I got worse during this time. I seem to be doomed. I'll write in a couple of months about my dynamics
I blocked my old account myself. I wanted to stop spamming here
Almas, it was clear its not going to help you. If woman have problems fighting hyperandrogenism, how can a man success!? XD I wonder why youre not testing your levels properly. Like... getting investigated whats the problem.
 

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Yes it's me. And I'm still hopeless. My tiny hairs have not changed in any way in two months of HRT, in fact, I got worse during this time. I seem to be doomed. I'll write in a couple of months about my dynamics
I blocked my old account myself. I wanted to stop spamming here
You had the enthusiasm of a person for whom hair means everything. You weren't spamming. The guys like Gunnersup spam. All of your points and conjectures were worthwhile but I have battled this for 8 years with HRT and for 37 years in general and I don't recommend it as before it seemed sisyphean (not sissyphean says Will) but Hair might not be Life but for me, life without it seems untenable and for you too.
 
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