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JaneyElizabeth

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I was more than nw1. I've been on hrt for 3 years. But when I said 10 years, I meant that I recovered to a better hairline than I had when I was even like 18, since it hadn't been rounded since I like pre puberty
Yeah yeah. Janey's heard it all before from you types who all the boys like and steal them away from ugly girls. You can have any chick you want and you decided to be straight but I am sure you will realize someday that you prefer being female just like Janey. My new thing is that I tell my family that I am not trans; I just have multiple personalities so that is less threatening to them and Janey gets to move back in the basement. Once my children, I think they are Will's turn 21, then I am free to try to go search for them, mostly in Spain or Brazil since that's where my X always makes a dash for before the men in white coats come for her. My mother loves all of my personalities even Will but she was threatened at first by the idea of Janey being with her little boy with curls in the sailor suit with my marine corps haircut that Dad gave us every single sunday night. Marine corps haircuts are fast and they get you ready for baldness at the age of three, I think was when I started. When I turned 19 and moved out, then Will's hair went kaput and baldness makes all XY's self-centered and diva-like.

How are you not a diva, KCMB? Your you says diva but your personality says nice person so Janey will just admire you from afar but Janey doesn't have that XY stink anymore and that's what drives most chicks away. Strictly chickly until they die say both Janey and Will and their alters.

Affectionately,
Janey
 

JaneyElizabeth

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I was more than nw1. I've been on hrt for 3 years. But when I said 10 years, I meant that I recovered to a better hairline than I had when I was even like 18, since it hadn't been rounded since I like pre puberty
Do you have different names for the person in pic one from pic two? How do you tell them apart, like memory-wise? The first one is very attractive even for an XY and then the second one looks retouched which probably means it's real. Mine are all real. I have no idea what a filter even is but apparently they make people like us look like characters from Avatar and that movie is not related to like any avatar on here says Janey. Right?<rising intonation instead of male:right. Nobody likes the hot trannies who out themselves and take off their wigs in public for laughs and I try to ask all of the bald guys in the pub to put it on and then dance and twirl like Janey can and they all do it. Drop something on the floor and they bend right over and pick it up and smell it and then give it back so at least some are honest.

Always ask them to wear panties for you on any date and that will like just set the seed for future domination. Will had no idea but estrogen makes boys smarter. Every single one and it makes them all hate boy stink. Gross as my X used to complain but she thinks of us when she is alone and in the dark and away from all six screaming children and she tries to like imagine Will in her clothes and then the children start screaming. She had to lock me in the bedroom or I would escape from her into the basement or attic. Eh. I prefer cuddles first and then I only lie back and I think of England and being princess for real. I have my own Snow White Maid Outfit because X tossed my little French maid outfit cause it didn't fit her and her ahem backside was too big for all of the clothes I borrowed and hid in the lockers at the train station. They never think to look there, Janey thinks fondly for Will. Good times.

Goddess bless us all, each and everyone of our ahem, personalities or genders or sexes or mates or friends of people who grope you in the front seat of the car after promising only to look and not touch. Boys have no control and estrogen makes Janey just yawn and feel sorry for them, ick, lugging nasty things like forever until they die. Even like 100 year old guys like someone's father are huge still at 100 and they can't fit into the catheter and it's a mess and nurses talk. Word is that Napoleon was ahem, petite all over and they took his little wiener and sold it at public auction like in pickle juice and now someone owns it still and gives tours showing that most Big men are tiny boys with tiny toys in reality and the big ones are even grosser unless eh somebody knows how to take what ahem, they want in a way that you forget to say wait. No. I am only chicks and then you are like f*** it. Give me some of the Chinese take-out that was supposed to be for wifey and kids. They aren't under Janey's protection<wink> The usually give a free show instead why Janey takes pics and says "look eye, b**ch". Tell Janey who sired you, cause Janey's you daddy sissy boy and they always show up wearing nylon granny panties and it's just adorable. You only have to almost pass to be a tranny princess, purrs. If Janey chooses to pass all of the time, none of the boys would know that Janey's the real thing, eunuch-wise and eh a lot of guys who are from countries in the Middle East know how smart we are and they know how sexy someone who is asexual is. Yawn. You have your whole life KCMB and your hair is NWFemalePrimeHalo-shaped,long and raven-haired beauty but since this is like a DM, right? We just had to tell you before Will goes away for a long rest while Janey hangs out in salons getting prp and lotsa crap that doesn't work, just to test it.

Anyway, love you folks and I hope you love satire as much as we all do, Janey, Will and the two nameless straight freaks who refuse to be quoted but eh, they love the thought of an XY tranny out on the streets after divorce and rocking the grassy H park where all of the cool kids sleep in sleeping bags and nobody every remembers to go to court. Drugs makes you forgets... and all of my former clients would miss court like 12 times but if they were eh pretty white girls they just put you right back on the streets the same morning.

Janey

Janey
 
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tato123

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Good morning guys.

It's been a long time, but I keep on with the intention of adding to the community, I've entered almost nothing here, I remembered you decided to come do an update, maybe it will be useful for someone.


Well I'm still on my treatment I just increased my dose of minoxidil.

10mg-20mg oral minoxidil maybe more same days, E2 in cycles, 1mg finasteride, who accompanies me knows that it is from bicalutamide to CPA, the only thing I kept was E2.

What do I have to say? I've already reached the one-year mark using E2.

I took testosterone, SHBG, E2, E3 tests.

My testosterone is around 1345.50 ng/dl. well above the reference value.

DHT was high too, even using finasteride, 506.00 pg/ml

My SHBG was also discharged
79.50 nmol/L

My estrone 55.10 pg/ml
And my e2
75.10 pg/ml.



My observations about E2:

I keep gaining ground, my hair is in Norwood-1 looking like mature hair with a lot of volume, if I comb it sideways it's imperceptible that I've already been bald, on the contrary it's with beautiful volume, but as souls said hairstyles like the ones in the photo he sent, I still lack volume, my hair doesn't hold the hairstyle due to lack of volume, I keep evolving I just don't know how long it will take to achieve this result.

I must go like this endlessly, that's where I get to.

But I've been noticing that even with very good testosterone exams if I overdo it on E2 I lose my libido completely and that makes a difference for me, I like to be sexually active.

Perfect ejaculatory volume.
But sometimes I'm getting very low libido, as I said, being forced to stop E2 but when it stops, the effects mainly on the skin go away quickly.

But when I don't use E2 in 15 days I already see a clear difference in my skin, face, even my dark circles increase, it's bizarre.

Minoxidil turned me into a wolf, literally, I noticed that the explosion of my hair came along with the explosion of my body hair, I mean I had a growth blast again some time ago, even my hands are hairy, giant eyelashes, side of the hair joining with the eyebrow I'm looking like a werewolf.

Notes: At this dosage of minoxidil I'm having a difference in my QT (HEART DISEASE) interval, but at this dosage I got amazing results. If you don't understand I'm having problems with my electrocardiogram, probably everyone who takes these dosages will have a difference in the electrocardiogram, but I doubt they will, to avoid this the correct thing would be to take a beta blocker like atenolol for example,I have access all day to support medical and follow-up because i'm a Doctor, i'm young ,i'm an intern Doctor. Why am I saying this? only for those who are reading to be aware that what I do is risky and I am being accompanied, be careful when approaching this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm sharing dangerous information here but you who are reading need to be careful with this, we are talking about cardiac tamponade, pericardial effusion and so on, your diet is not good enough to ingest this dosage of minoxidil you don't drink enough water during the day and do not practice physical activity, the recipe for death. TAKE f*****g CARE!

Everything that has an effect on this sh*t fucks you up somehow, how absurd we've come to solve a problem that seems banal but in end of the day you see, it's insane.

BICA, CPA, MINOXIDIL(unsual dosage), female hormones, so choose your poison, opssss, choose you path.


Huge hug my comrades, janey, noorwody,almas, gergely, plsnw1,I hope you are well. s2
 
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keepcoolmybabies

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Good morning guys.

It's been a long time, but I keep on with the intention of adding to the community, I've entered almost nothing here, I remembered you decided to come do an update, maybe it will be useful for someone.


Well I'm still on my treatment I just increased my dose of minoxidil.

10mg-20mg oral minoxidil maybe more same days, E2 in cycles, 1mg finasteride, who accompanies me knows that it is from bicalutamide to CPA, the only thing I kept was E2.

What do I have to say? I've already reached the one-year mark using E2.

I took testosterone, SHBG, E2, E3 tests.

My testosterone is around 1345.50 ng/dl. well above the reference value.

DHT was high too, even using finasteride, 506.00 pg/ml

My SHBG was also discharged
79.50 nmol/L

My estrone 55.10 pg/ml
And my e2
75.10 pg/ml.



My observations about E2:

I keep gaining ground, my hair is in Norwood-1 looking like mature hair with a lot of volume, if I comb it sideways it's imperceptible that I've already been bald, on the contrary it's with beautiful volume, but as souls said hairstyles like the ones in the photo he sent, I still lack volume, my hair doesn't hold the hairstyle due to lack of volume, I keep evolving I just don't know how long it will take to achieve this result.

I must go like this endlessly, that's where I get to.

But I've been noticing that even with very good testosterone exams if I overdo it on E2 I lose my libido completely and that makes a difference for me, I like to be sexually active.

Perfect ejaculatory volume.
But sometimes I'm getting very low libido, as I said, being forced to stop E2 but when it stops, the effects mainly on the skin go away quickly.

But when I don't use E2 in 15 days I already see a clear difference in my skin, face, even my dark circles increase, it's bizarre.

Minoxidil turned me into a wolf, literally, I noticed that the explosion of my hair came along with the explosion of my body hair, I mean I had a growth blast again some time ago, even my hands are hairy, giant eyelashes, side of the hair joining with the eyebrow I'm looking like a werewolf.

Notes: At this dosage of minoxidil I'm having a difference in my QT (HEART DISEASE) interval, but at this dosage I got amazing results. If you don't understand I'm having problems with my electrocardiogram, probably everyone who takes these dosages will have a difference in the electrocardiogram, but I doubt they will, to avoid this the correct thing would be to take a beta blocker like atenolol for example,I have access all day to support medical and follow-up because i'm a Doctor, i'm young ,i'm an intern Doctor. Why am I saying this? only for those who are reading to be aware that what I do is risky and I am being accompanied, be careful when approaching this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm sharing dangerous information here but you who are reading need to be careful with this, we are talking about cardiac tamponade, pericardial effusion and so on, your diet is not good enough to ingest this dosage of minoxidil you don't drink enough water during the day and do not practice physical activity, the recipe for death. TAKE f*****g CARE!

Everything that has an effect on this sh*t fucks you up somehow, how absurd we've come to solve a problem that seems banal but in end of the day you see, it's insane.

BICA, CPA, MINOXIDIL(unsual dosage), female hormones, so choose your poison, opssss, choose you path.


Huge hug my comrades, janey, noorwody,almas, gergely, plsnw1,I hope you are well. s2
You obviously already seem to know this, but that high of a dosage of oral minoxidil def isn't sustainable longterm. Not to mention the degree in which it may deplete collagen might begin to show up in skin over time. Do you plan to lower the dosage in time?
 

JaneyElizabeth

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You obviously already seem to know this, but that high of a dosage of oral minoxidil def isn't sustainable longterm. Not to mention the degree in which it may deplete collagen might begin to show up in skin over time. Do you plan to lower the dosage in time?
Janey went from 25mg daily to 12.5mg daily and then 12.5mg in the morning only for avoiding alien eyes which were too ridiculous for me to even debate any longer. Then I took 6.25 mg and now ~3mg in the morning and I am waiting but my beard growth exploded, my legs look like a guys who takes T on purpose and none under my arms still or on my arms really but the facial hair is a weird texture and sort of mushy and all white which makes it a nightmare to remove except with electrolysis. On the bright side, I saw great improvement for months but I also gained 30 lbs maybe up to 165 and then immediate down to 140 lbs today in just a few weeks. I think it might increase hunger and bloating in feet and lower extremities but not that extremity.

I continued with one weekly microneedling and then went to twice weekly about a month ago with retin-A smeared everywhere on arms, hands, neck, face, hair line and temples and everywhere. I used an Estrogel carrier on hands and face and I think that I look much younger than almost 57. So topical with MR is everywhere before and after, retin-A and estogel as scalp carriers and topical on brows and eyelashes. I have to plug many brow hairs but I do that anyway and I still overpluck by accident. I continue posting Janey transition pics for MtF's and others and Will pics for most and Will and Janey continue to merge in looks but less so in personality. She is just different, more fun to me and yes, likes to use language to diverge gender attention but it's subtle and ofter strange but that is using my data and pics and writing as performance art which I love. I might make Janey her own character like a tranny Holden Caufield and it's the pain and the novelty of doing this as well as the results that drive me and make me thankful and happy for Will, Janey and to Her.

Best,
Janey
 

Almas_NW0

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Good morning guys.

It's been a long time, but I keep on with the intention of adding to the community, I've entered almost nothing here, I remembered you decided to come do an update, maybe it will be useful for someone.


Well I'm still on my treatment I just increased my dose of minoxidil.

10mg-20mg oral minoxidil maybe more same days, E2 in cycles, 1mg finasteride, who accompanies me knows that it is from bicalutamide to CPA, the only thing I kept was E2.

What do I have to say? I've already reached the one-year mark using E2.

I took testosterone, SHBG, E2, E3 tests.

My testosterone is around 1345.50 ng/dl. well above the reference value.

DHT was high too, even using finasteride, 506.00 pg/ml

My SHBG was also discharged
79.50 nmol/L

My estrone 55.10 pg/ml
And my e2
75.10 pg/ml.



My observations about E2:

I keep gaining ground, my hair is in Norwood-1 looking like mature hair with a lot of volume, if I comb it sideways it's imperceptible that I've already been bald, on the contrary it's with beautiful volume, but as souls said hairstyles like the ones in the photo he sent, I still lack volume, my hair doesn't hold the hairstyle due to lack of volume, I keep evolving I just don't know how long it will take to achieve this result.

I must go like this endlessly, that's where I get to.

But I've been noticing that even with very good testosterone exams if I overdo it on E2 I lose my libido completely and that makes a difference for me, I like to be sexually active.

Perfect ejaculatory volume.
But sometimes I'm getting very low libido, as I said, being forced to stop E2 but when it stops, the effects mainly on the skin go away quickly.

But when I don't use E2 in 15 days I already see a clear difference in my skin, face, even my dark circles increase, it's bizarre.

Minoxidil turned me into a wolf, literally, I noticed that the explosion of my hair came along with the explosion of my body hair, I mean I had a growth blast again some time ago, even my hands are hairy, giant eyelashes, side of the hair joining with the eyebrow I'm looking like a werewolf.

Notes: At this dosage of minoxidil I'm having a difference in my QT (HEART DISEASE) interval, but at this dosage I got amazing results. If you don't understand I'm having problems with my electrocardiogram, probably everyone who takes these dosages will have a difference in the electrocardiogram, but I doubt they will, to avoid this the correct thing would be to take a beta blocker like atenolol for example,I have access all day to support medical and follow-up because i'm a Doctor, i'm young ,i'm an intern Doctor. Why am I saying this? only for those who are reading to be aware that what I do is risky and I am being accompanied, be careful when approaching this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm sharing dangerous information here but you who are reading need to be careful with this, we are talking about cardiac tamponade, pericardial effusion and so on, your diet is not good enough to ingest this dosage of minoxidil you don't drink enough water during the day and do not practice physical activity, the recipe for death. TAKE f*****g CARE!

Everything that has an effect on this sh*t fucks you up somehow, how absurd we've come to solve a problem that seems banal but in end of the day you see, it's insane.

BICA, CPA, MINOXIDIL(unsual dosage), female hormones, so choose your poison, opssss, choose you path.


Huge hug my comrades, janey, noorwody,almas, gergely, plsnw1,I hope you are well. s2
I answered HRT. Not sure if I can wear the hairstyles that I sent you. Not sure if my growth line will get that thick. Progress is very slow, but the main thing is that I answered this. Now I'm finally calm
 

Solxama

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Today is just short of three weeks on HRT (Day 20), and I took the first pictures of my crown, it looks so much better! I also took one picture of my temple, that seems to have started growing real hair.

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-Temple with the area with small real hairs marked.

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-Zoom into the area.

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- My crown, it hasn't looked like this for years, bald areas are much smaller.

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- Another picture, the last time my crown looked like this was at 20-21 years old.

What more is there to say, this stuff works, and very fast at that.
I love HRT!
 

JaneyElizabeth

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Today is just short of three weeks on HRT (Day 20), and I took the first pictures of my crown, it looks so much better! I also took one picture of my temple, that seems to have started growing real hair.

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-Temple with the area with small real hairs marked.

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-Zoom into the area.

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- My crown, it hasn't looked like this for years, bald areas are much smaller.

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- Another picture, the last time my crown looked like this was at 20-21 years old.

What more is there to say, this stuff works, and very fast at that.
I love HRT!
Those results seem to indicate that high dose is the way to go in terms of rapidity.
 

JaneyElizabeth

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Good morning guys.

It's been a long time, but I keep on with the intention of adding to the community, I've entered almost nothing here, I remembered you decided to come do an update, maybe it will be useful for someone.


Well I'm still on my treatment I just increased my dose of minoxidil.

10mg-20mg oral minoxidil maybe more same days, E2 in cycles, 1mg finasteride, who accompanies me knows that it is from bicalutamide to CPA, the only thing I kept was E2.

What do I have to say? I've already reached the one-year mark using E2.

I took testosterone, SHBG, E2, E3 tests.

My testosterone is around 1345.50 ng/dl. well above the reference value.

DHT was high too, even using finasteride, 506.00 pg/ml

My SHBG was also discharged
79.50 nmol/L

My estrone 55.10 pg/ml
And my e2
75.10 pg/ml.



My observations about E2:

I keep gaining ground, my hair is in Norwood-1 looking like mature hair with a lot of volume, if I comb it sideways it's imperceptible that I've already been bald, on the contrary it's with beautiful volume, but as souls said hairstyles like the ones in the photo he sent, I still lack volume, my hair doesn't hold the hairstyle due to lack of volume, I keep evolving I just don't know how long it will take to achieve this result.

I must go like this endlessly, that's where I get to.

But I've been noticing that even with very good testosterone exams if I overdo it on E2 I lose my libido completely and that makes a difference for me, I like to be sexually active.

Perfect ejaculatory volume.
But sometimes I'm getting very low libido, as I said, being forced to stop E2 but when it stops, the effects mainly on the skin go away quickly.

But when I don't use E2 in 15 days I already see a clear difference in my skin, face, even my dark circles increase, it's bizarre.

Minoxidil turned me into a wolf, literally, I noticed that the explosion of my hair came along with the explosion of my body hair, I mean I had a growth blast again some time ago, even my hands are hairy, giant eyelashes, side of the hair joining with the eyebrow I'm looking like a werewolf.

Notes: At this dosage of minoxidil I'm having a difference in my QT (HEART DISEASE) interval, but at this dosage I got amazing results. If you don't understand I'm having problems with my electrocardiogram, probably everyone who takes these dosages will have a difference in the electrocardiogram, but I doubt they will, to avoid this the correct thing would be to take a beta blocker like atenolol for example,I have access all day to support medical and follow-up because i'm a Doctor, i'm young ,i'm an intern Doctor. Why am I saying this? only for those who are reading to be aware that what I do is risky and I am being accompanied, be careful when approaching this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm sharing dangerous information here but you who are reading need to be careful with this, we are talking about cardiac tamponade, pericardial effusion and so on, your diet is not good enough to ingest this dosage of minoxidil you don't drink enough water during the day and do not practice physical activity, the recipe for death. TAKE f*****g CARE!

Everything that has an effect on this sh*t fucks you up somehow, how absurd we've come to solve a problem that seems banal but in end of the day you see, it's insane.

BICA, CPA, MINOXIDIL(unsual dosage), female hormones, so choose your poison, opssss, choose you path.


Huge hug my comrades, janey, noorwody,almas, gergely, plsnw1,I hope you are well. s2
And yes, some people like long posts. Bem-vindo de novo.
 

Experimentality

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Good morning guys.

It's been a long time, but I keep on with the intention of adding to the community, I've entered almost nothing here, I remembered you decided to come do an update, maybe it will be useful for someone.


Well I'm still on my treatment I just increased my dose of minoxidil.

10mg-20mg oral minoxidil maybe more same days, E2 in cycles, 1mg finasteride, who accompanies me knows that it is from bicalutamide to CPA, the only thing I kept was E2.

What do I have to say? I've already reached the one-year mark using E2.

I took testosterone, SHBG, E2, E3 tests.

My testosterone is around 1345.50 ng/dl. well above the reference value.

DHT was high too, even using finasteride, 506.00 pg/ml

My SHBG was also discharged
79.50 nmol/L

My estrone 55.10 pg/ml
And my e2
75.10 pg/ml.



My observations about E2:

I keep gaining ground, my hair is in Norwood-1 looking like mature hair with a lot of volume, if I comb it sideways it's imperceptible that I've already been bald, on the contrary it's with beautiful volume, but as souls said hairstyles like the ones in the photo he sent, I still lack volume, my hair doesn't hold the hairstyle due to lack of volume, I keep evolving I just don't know how long it will take to achieve this result.

I must go like this endlessly, that's where I get to.

But I've been noticing that even with very good testosterone exams if I overdo it on E2 I lose my libido completely and that makes a difference for me, I like to be sexually active.

Perfect ejaculatory volume.
But sometimes I'm getting very low libido, as I said, being forced to stop E2 but when it stops, the effects mainly on the skin go away quickly.

But when I don't use E2 in 15 days I already see a clear difference in my skin, face, even my dark circles increase, it's bizarre.

Minoxidil turned me into a wolf, literally, I noticed that the explosion of my hair came along with the explosion of my body hair, I mean I had a growth blast again some time ago, even my hands are hairy, giant eyelashes, side of the hair joining with the eyebrow I'm looking like a werewolf.

Notes: At this dosage of minoxidil I'm having a difference in my QT (HEART DISEASE) interval, but at this dosage I got amazing results. If you don't understand I'm having problems with my electrocardiogram, probably everyone who takes these dosages will have a difference in the electrocardiogram, but I doubt they will, to avoid this the correct thing would be to take a beta blocker like atenolol for example,I have access all day to support medical and follow-up because i'm a Doctor, i'm young ,i'm an intern Doctor. Why am I saying this? only for those who are reading to be aware that what I do is risky and I am being accompanied, be careful when approaching this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm sharing dangerous information here but you who are reading need to be careful with this, we are talking about cardiac tamponade, pericardial effusion and so on, your diet is not good enough to ingest this dosage of minoxidil you don't drink enough water during the day and do not practice physical activity, the recipe for death. TAKE f*****g CARE!

Everything that has an effect on this sh*t fucks you up somehow, how absurd we've come to solve a problem that seems banal but in end of the day you see, it's insane.

BICA, CPA, MINOXIDIL(unsual dosage), female hormones, so choose your poison, opssss, choose you path.


Huge hug my comrades, janey, noorwody,almas, gergely, plsnw1,I hope you are well. s2
Thanks for posting, I like your honesty about how this stuff can f*ck you up. I am baffled at your total T of 1.3k ng/dL. This is basically the total T of (natty) genetic freaks that are not on E2, which will dose-dependently decrease T. Your SHBG is high-ish, which could explain this high reading somewhat (total T is the T that is bound to albumin or SHBG). Did you test free T as well? Also how is that DHT so high? Are you a non-responder to finasteride? I have very similar labwork to yours (except much lower SHBG and DHT) but I am on TRT and a good responder to dutasteride.

Question about the minoxidil: are you planning to cycle off? I think the safety of oral minoxidil is often overestimated. It is dangerous stuff (but yeah, really effective for hair growth). I believe dosages up to 5mg daily are deemed "safe" in recent papers. Please be careful with 20mg! I would not take more drugs to counteract sides from minoxidil, because often side effects are merely masked. Beta-blockers are hard pharmaceutical compounds, not something you would want to take for the rest of your life. Diet can have some effect to minimize sides at low doses, but honestly at 20mg only the gods can help you.

Also if you have high E2 (which, like me, you do) watch your thyroid hormones. E2 can decrease thyroid output and leave you hypothyroid, which is (next to detrimental for health) probably the worst condition you can have with regards to hair (even worse than Androgenetic Alopecia). People often perpetuate you should not mess with hormones, and that is mainly because everything is connected. Tweaking one hormonal system can and will spill over to other systems. Of course, we like tweaking our hormones, but please be aware. Good luck, and congrats with your results!
 

tato123

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You obviously already seem to know this, but that high of a dosage of oral minoxidil def isn't sustainable longterm. Not to mention the degree in which it may deplete collagen might begin to show up in skin over time. Do you plan to lower the dosage in time

Keepcoolmybabies, hi.


I am aware of the deleterious effects caused by decreased collagen type 4 synthesis, if I'm not mistaken.

But I'll go ahead and see how much I'm able to accept, I know that this dose is unsustainable in the long term and maybe in some cases even in the short term.

Some days I wake up with terrible bags over my eyes and so much others effect's nocives, But the result is real!

My plan is to reach a plateau and stop.

But we have a problem here, by observation and research we know that hair treatment takes a long time to notice any results.

Minoxidil probably follows this law and not only that it probably takes a few years to get all the hairs at the same stage of the hair cycle.

What explains seasonal shedding with minoxidil, to thicken the hair it has to go through the catagen phase and then re-start in the anagena, baldness deregulates our hair cycles.

It would probably take about 2 years for us to see the maximum effect of minoxidil at this dosage, and we would go through several hair cycles in the meantime, the problem is to maintain that dose.

My thought now is to keep this dose indefinitely, someday to reduce the dosage, but then the maximum effect takes longer than that, it would be to maintain the dosage.
So do you understand? I think about reducing it but it's a double-edged sword.
 

tato123

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I answered HRT. Not sure if I can wear the hairstyles that I sent you. Not sure if my growth line will get that thick. Progress is very slow, but the main thing is that I answered this. Now I'm finally calm
I was very happy to see your results, because I've been with you since the beginning and we share the same feeling, congratulations you're achieving.
 

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it's always an honor janey ,Thanks for the usual welcome. you are so important here.
Thanks. I have been getting hammered by the experimental guys waiting for the "cure". Hey, I am vain but virtually all of my pics are to illustrate different types or stages of baldness and now, different stages of what increasing appears to be a return to juvenile texture and quality and length-wise, the longest ever for me, even including my teen years.

Then I get hammered for long posts like you just made but many of us scour such data for hints and expectations and you are the prime example of an XY "just in it for the hair". Our acquaintance, especially in terms of being Portuguese speakers and a pair that have both lived in Brazil bonds us. Uma vez Brasileiro, Brasileiro pa' sempre diz Janey.
 

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I'm going to delete THIS PHOTOS soon you want to see, see.


IF YOU ARRIVED NOW AND DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS POST, THERE WERE MY PICTURES ABOVE THIS POST.
 
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Thanks for posting, I like your honesty about how this stuff can f*ck you up. I am baffled at your total T of 1.3k ng/dL. This is basically the total T of (natty) genetic freaks that are not on E2, which will dose-dependently decrease T. Your SHBG is high-ish, which could explain this high reading somewhat (total T is the T that is bound to albumin or SHBG). Did you test free T as well? Also how is that DHT so high? Are you a non-responder to finasteride? I have very similar labwork to yours (except much lower SHBG and DHT) but I am on TRT and a good responder to dutasteride.

Question about the minoxidil: are you planning to cycle off? I think the safety of oral minoxidil is often overestimated. It is dangerous stuff (but yeah, really effective for hair growth). I believe dosages up to 5mg daily are deemed "safe" in recent papers. Please be careful with 20mg! I would not take more drugs to counteract sides from minoxidil, because often side effects are merely masked. Beta-blockers are hard pharmaceutical compounds, not something you would want to take for the rest of your life. Diet can have some effect to minimize sides at low doses, but honestly at 20mg only the gods can help you.

Also if you have high E2 (which, like me, you do) watch your thyroid hormones. E2 can decrease thyroid output and leave you hypothyroid, which is (next to detrimental for health) probably the worst condition you can have with regards to hair (even worse than Androgenetic Alopecia). People often perpetuate you should not mess with hormones, and that is mainly because everything is connected. Tweaking one hormonal system can and will spill over to other systems. Of course, we like tweaking our hormones, but please be aware. Good luck, and congrats with your results!
Hi, yes I have been paying attention to my TSH, free T4 and total T3 values.

Thank you for your concern, and that's it, in addition to passing on information, we need to talk about the risks, it's no use having hair in a coffin, you know where you're walking and what you're doing.

Thank you buddy
 

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I was more than nw1. I've been on hrt for 3 years. But when I said 10 years, I meant that I recovered to a better hairline than I had when I was even like 18, since it hadn't been rounded since like pre puberty
Janey wishes you would do an MtF-oriented thread in terms of style and ways of passing attractively and even posing. You seem to have entirely XX rhythms and grace which is high praise from Janey. I try to use progress pics productively in my custody matter and Will seems to never smile although this is not intentional and Janey's alway innocently joyful and above his "issues" since we are they but they are not we since HRT changes one fundamentally psychologically and the non-visual orientation and lack of bombardment by sexual imagery is priceless. Why am I on so often? Because Janey has hours of more time daily since she is not wired sexually as a "male". The differences can be both subtle and also sharply delineated. Estrogen makes us happy; T promotes aggression, fetishization and fixative thought all of which can be quite harmful. As Janey often says, "there's a reason the jails are full of 98% XY's and it's not just bias of the system. Criminal charges of any type are largely not an experience of white females or white tranny's who pass and this is why passing well can be critical to success on our terms in terms of avoiding harassment and targeting.

Best,
Janey
 

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Thanks. I have been getting hammered by the experimental guys waiting for the "cure". Hey, I am vain but virtually all of my pics are to illustrate different types or stages of baldness and now, different stages of what increasing appears to be a return to juvenile texture and quality and length-wise, the longest ever for me, even including my teen years.

Then I get hammered for long posts like you just made but many of us scour such data for hints and expectations and you are the prime example of an XY "just in it for the hair". Our acquaintance, especially in terms of being Portuguese speakers and a pair that have both lived in Brazil bonds us. Uma vez Brasileiro, Brasileiro pa' sempre diz Janey.
You followed me closely, you know I tried everything a lot, I tried to see how far an XY could go, and I'm getting to that point.

I used a lot of things in that time, bicalutamide, flutamide, CPA, E2, spirolactone, I participated in all the side effects and I was putting in the balance what was acceptable to me.

But I try to expose as much information as possible.

I mean I always come here and post pictures, because I know the pain of losing our hair.

It's who we are, it's part of our personality, and what I can do to help, will I do it, what do I want in return?

See you happy.

Thanks for the support.




Qui judicatis terram, discite.
 

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You don't struggle much at all in terms of coverage. What you lack is the flexible texture and free flowing aspect of white juvenile hair. I am getting that back increasingly and I often try to advise non-MtF XY's that there is no "male" method that will allow one to wear one's hair long without at least some frizziness and the lack of anagen even for males with coverage can defeat all attempts to wear their hair long even with coverage. I also coined the term SOS or Son of Sam hair for the phenomenon of complete XY coverage that actually looks far worse and less neat that NW7 baldness. Everyone assumes coverage means "better" hair. It most certainly does not.

I fear that you need to be exposed to higher E2 levels and possible breast growth to go much further but you are a good looking guy regardless and you are one of the nicest people I know. You never attack anyone and unlike me, your get your points across far more subtly but Janey's too young and innocent literally from 2nd puberty that there's a huge "watch me, everybody!" aspect that I find endearing and others might see as contrived and cloying. Janey says, yes, that's sort of the point. Janey's a different person from Will pretty much top to bottom although we share most memories in common not related to abuse where things can be largely blocked for Will but available for Janey to process since "she" didn't actually go through these experiences.

Goddess bless,
Janey
 
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