Im also going to see my doctor soon, and i will ask him for dutasteride to add it 0,5mg per week with finasteride other days.
why not everyday.
But im not sure, that this regimen can provide me regrow on NW1 area and here i am, thinking about raising the E level and i have some questions about that.
you are young and started meds pretty early so you likely don't need something nearly as harsh. finasteride and dutasteride raise E level a little. but not near enough to be infertile
Most people in this thread us Cyproterone Acetate + Estrogel, but is Cyproterone Acetate really needed? It lowers the T level if i uderstood right? Lower T = Lower DHT = No balding
basically. the cyproterone amount which should be used depends on the amount of E taken as well. If you don't take E then higher amounts of cypro would be needed to reach its max platue of T suppression. (although a low amount cypro alone does lower significantly too) which is around 70 something percent with cypro alone. Adding E with it is necessary to get into castrate range T levels, and less cypro can be taken with the combination.
but cypro is a hardcore drug, so you should probably try other stuff first.
But can i raise the E level without lowering the T level? Or it will couse hormonal inbalance? Bcs i will still have high T and E level?
E causes a reduction in amount of testosterone produced.
Its very possible to get to castrate ranges with taking E alone, however you would need to keep stable levels (above 300 pg/ if i remember right),
As every few hours or so the body will check the current amount of sex hormones and signal a certain amount to be produced based on that.
cypro gives extra buffer to that cause it reduces the GNRH signaling and has a long half-life, as well as blocking the androgen receptor. So even the small amount that might make it into your bloodstream will be unable to attach to those blocked receptors.
of course though, if you take enough estrogen for a long period of time, your balls wil shrink and it won't matter so much if your body tries to make more T.
cypro infertility is reversible, estrogen infertility is a lot harder.
Will i see any results without Cyproterone Acetate?
probably. theres alot you can try besides it.
What side effects can couse Estro? Besides the gyno, but I dont care about gyno atm, becouse surgery in my country is fully refunded.
acne going away, dandruff, itching and hairloss going away, enhanced emotions, loss of crazy male libido, healthier skin, longer orgasms, loss of sperm, loss of body odor, shrunken balls, brain shrinking from change in white matter proportions, patchy beard, slower facial hair growth, losing your chest hair, female fat redistribution,
Isnt it too early for me, to start such an "extreme" regimen? On the one hand it should be much more easier for me to regrow, the hair than for ppl who are baling for 8 year, on the other hand im f*****g scary of pernament side effects
I would reccomend something weaker at first and only consider the full extreme regimen if the other stuff doesn't work or you really want more.
you just started finasteride, so just make your regimen a little stronger gradually and see what you can handle and are comfortable with.
If you do ever Actually consider this and are really worried about side effects, then freezing sperm is an option. althoygh i did read somewhere that babies born by IVF have slightly more birth effects. with that said, it is possible to get back fertility even after a few years on hormones, many have done it. its not really "proven" to be irreversible but they say that as a better safe than sorry kind of thing and there are some drugs that can jump start sperm again. Still, you might really want to stay safe at acceptable E levels.
switching to dutasteride or adding once a week will help, and youll have a bit more E without the fertility issue. You could also try oral minoxidil someday after awhile as it is more effective than topical, you can also take some progesterone to further reduce 5ar. Maybe a small amount of topical estradiol won't hurt, but keep it under 1mg.
so a regimen such as this;
dutasteride, progesterone, oral minoxidil, 1mg topical estrogel is still quite alot stronger than the typical Big 3 and at the same time its not nearly extreme as my regimen. combine this with your youth and it
may give you your hair back miraculously.
If you lose ground someday, you could add a bit of spironolactone. 50mg-100mg, which will make the regimen stronger but spironolactone is not as extreme as cypro.
then if you need stronger progress to 200mg- 300mg spironolactone.
after that go extreme with cypro and estradiol.
of course, you can do what you want these are just some ideas.
Im also f*****g scary of Cyproterone Acetate, Im actually not thinking about kids, but one day i will, and i wouldnt like to wake up, without any sperm production im my body.
Cypro will cause you to stop producing sperm but its reversible. Cypro does come with medical risks, I wouldn't reccomend staying on it long term. for a year or two is better.