Aks, Folexen came here to advertise a product for free, and this is against forum policy, irrespective of how well you perceived their manners to be. Jacob pointed out this fact. And the forum administrator agreed.
I am well aware of that.
The administrator, if you'd note has already posted a very polite reply above & that's fair enough. Don't need you though to state the obvious..
Your aggression is misplaced, and has, frankly speaking, become redundant as well as annoying.
Actually my "aggression" with regards to Jacobs equally "aggressive" reply was hardly misplaced (he who throws the first stone and all....), and if you are annoyed, dont read it.
Furthermore, when I have already stated to Jacob that its high time we quit this line of debate, I find your last minute jump into the discussion needless. I am well aware of your position as you have made it quite clear.
Further, I find your jumping into the conversation, one which you are not even part of, when you are not even trying the product out, and your constant refrain for freebies to be equally annoying and redundant.
If you are actually trying it out, and can contribute something, then please post.
In other words, please direct your replies on topic.
Continue your discussion with Jacob on this subject, if you must, but do it via PM.
AFAIK, you are neither an admin here or a moderator, so please ditch the attitude. I think I made it pretty clear in my previous post that I really didn't wish to keep this irrelevant side track going.
Furthermore, I have no intention of continuing the discussion with Jacob on this topic either by PM or otherwise.
By jumping into a conversation you are no part of, which was coming to a close, you are merely perpetuating it.
Kindly post about equol if you can.
Otherwise, if you wish to inform me about something not relevant to topic, use the PM function yourself.
Thanks
Wow - so after your original post, you just couldn't let go and went back and updated your post with more insults!
Here you go....
I may very well apply for one of those "moderationships" that you reference in your next post: My first rule of business will be to rid this place of the verbose who use forum threads to grandstand their junior college eduction.
Go ahead and apply - but the forum would be worse off with prima donna's as moderators.
Take a look at the posts by the real moderators and see what's lacking in your post.
A) Empathy
B) Common sense
c) An ability to converse without insults!
"Junior college eduction" - dude, whats with the "eduction", bit? LOL at the next edit snazzily adding an apostrophe to the typo to cover up the obvious irony involved in misspelling the word!
Feeling insecure much?
Lets just say that there are probably many on this site with the best sort of "eduction" who are also suffering from hair loss. Think about what that means...
That would be you, Miss.
Again, avail yourself of the PM(S) function here.
Wow...seriously, what are you twelve? Got a secret bat cave with a sign saying "there iz men inside"?
"Miss", "PM(S)"...verry impressive...
Grow up..
Tell you what, "miss" - man up and "buy" the product and let us know how it works. Can you do that? Instead of asking for freebies?
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Replying here so that other posters who have the product can make their thoughts known as well..
So is "starch" and "s-equol" the only two ingredients listed for the capsules? Or does it say something like "Equol- 2.5% S-equol"? If it is just plain S-equol, then it'll be interesting to see how the two products compare. If enough use them I guess.
The box is a plain a translucent one with just a sticker on it with a pic of some berries? and Folexen on it. No ingredients listed. Blue capsules inside.
I am going by the posts of Folexen in this thread where he mentioned that the capsule has starch+equol in it, @ 2.5mg active ingredient (s-equol) per capsule.
The reason he said that is because I asked him whether I could use it as a topical. With the presumably high starch content, I am not sure how effective that will be...I mean, what vehicle would keep the starch out and get the equol through the skin...? I don't know..
Still haven't heard anything back..except Pureformulas said they'll be carrying the Prostizine in the near future. As I thought..I did a search at Iherb- most SP products and prostate combos contain much more SP and the sterols. 320mg of SP is the normal dosage.
I suppose you could rotate between the 2 Desbio products as well.
Prostizine has 222 mg Saw Palmetto and 150mg Beta Sisterol plus 100mg Green Tea extract.
I can't speak for your choices and what may work for you, but personally, the literature suggests Five Alpha R blockers are best avoided. The above has them in a very high concentration.
Furthermore, the equol concentration is 6mg.
Just seems a bit dicey to me..
Equol slim - the other product you mentioned...
- 7-Keto: Thryoid Support & Metabolism Increase
- Caralluma Fimbriata: Appetite Control & Fat blocking
- Guggulsterones: Metabolism Booster
- Chromax®: Blood sugar regulation
& lean body mass support
- 5-HTP: Appetite Control & Emotional Support (pre-cursor to serotonin and melatonin)
- I really don't know anything about all these other chemicals and how they will interact in combination.
TBH, we are already taking a risk by taking equol, why compound it
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PS: My plan as it stands, and if a haphazard method can really be called as such, is to use Equol @ limited amounts to see if there are any sides, and then make a topical and evaluate that as well. For the hair, also use a light anti-androgen like Eucapil.
So far...some of what I have tried:
minoxidil - works and works fast, but ruins your hair to a worse level when you quit, gives you bad skin, dark circles (literally ages you), and then there are the cardio related stuff
Finasteride - within a couple of days, sides
Resveratol + Curcumin -- no obvious effect (tried several weeks) stopped because of joint pains (very intense, and didn't stop for a week). Figured out it was because of Resveratol on googling around and seeing it was a common effect. Oh well. Had high hopes thanks to the Italian study which showed it inhibited "substance P" in hair/scalp and regrew hair
Activance (Aussie product) - overpriced, but large quantity - just adds volume to your hair and may be effective for people with light hair loss..still have a bottle left, might try it if my hair loss stabilizes..won't hurt per se..
Astressin B topical from DNC, called Spectral something - too weak. Three bottles, and it wasnt really good enough. In the initial days, it stopped a shed and there are ingredients apparently in it that can reduce inflammation so perhaps those contributed to some help. But not good enough.
Bhringaraj Oil (Eclipta Alba) - widely quoted in India & abroad for hair growth etc - BUT, is a pain to apply (very thick oil) and may actually worsen hair loss because of this. Basically, you cannot apply any other topical if you use this. Greasy as heck and stains clothes etc
Bhringaraj cream - no obvious effects
Thermascalp - scalp repair - no obvious effect. Didn't stop itch, didn't stop shedding. Was not too happy with it anyhow since it contains saw palmetto. Mailed their customer reps asking about proportion of SP in it. No reply. Which is what I meant by saying that customer service...well, lets say folks are least bothered about replying and hence forums are a good option..
Bimatoprost/Latisse - several applications, very quick sides - constant eye twitches- apparently common side effect for many folks..
So...no great results, no magic bullets, no clear success factors. The only real thing in the above list which worked for me and worked fast was minoxidil. Shame it comes with so many sides. Hoping that equol works.
I hope the above helps somebody, and gives them an idea..
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