not sure i seen that trialed in humans, plus the hair line baldness women get from tight pony tails is sort of a form of plucking action.
Follica Microneedling Protocol Patent Disclosed
- Thread starter benjt2
- Start date
I’ve never heard that regarding tight pony tails as a form of plucking, possibly, but I think I once read that instant plucking of hairs from the root instantly sends signals to the cells and surrounding area but whether it was fir the good or bad I don’t recall, but if in a specific area and density I wouldn’t be surprised new follicle genesis... as stated by follica.
- Reaction score
- 892
Jerry Cooley trialed plucking a number of years back. Failed to produce reliable and repeatable results (oooo nice r combo there).
- Reaction score
- 892
Tonight I used the Derminator 2 for about 10 minutes on fast @1mm depth.
I did the lawnmower technique. I must have gone over the same area 4 times.
Head is burning.
As I was doing this I couldn’t help but be reminded of doing 2mm once a week last year.
That was more bloody and wounded. Whereas this method definitely feels more burnt.
Hopefully this does something over coming months!!!!
I did the lawnmower technique. I must have gone over the same area 4 times.
Head is burning.
As I was doing this I couldn’t help but be reminded of doing 2mm once a week last year.
That was more bloody and wounded. Whereas this method definitely feels more burnt.
Hopefully this does something over coming months!!!!
- Reaction score
- 64
This is depressing. I don't think we will be able to copy this level of wounding at home.
I'm gonna still try 30 minute sessions.
- Reaction score
- 64
Has anybody figured out if we should put minoxidil immediately afterwards?
Remember that the chinese study also used that same every two weeks frequency and they actually applied minoxidil on that very day too.
Remember that the chinese study also used that same every two weeks frequency and they actually applied minoxidil on that very day too.
- Reaction score
- 4,609
You think a hair cure will come some day ?
The quorum sensing study shows that if you only pluck a few hairs they don't grow back. You'd have to pluck pretty much every hair to initiate quorum sensing, which is why microneedling is easier.
Just minoxidil as far as we know, but there may be something more later on. The patent does talk about finasteride and dutasteride as potential treatments.
bluesuedeshoes
Established Member
- Reaction score
- 96
These Follica lot are really introducing us to some new treatments.
- Reaction score
- 167
Just tried this yesterday afternoon for the 1st time, .75mm with my D2. Only did it on the temples and about 2 inches behind the hairline as that is where my loss is concentrated. Slightly painful but definitely manageable. Definitely felt different than previous sessions, maybe slightly surburn like feeling but mostly the area felt numb. This morning the entire area is still very pink.
I also tried the protocol on my face and neck at .25mm. Not necessarily the same number of passes as I did on my head but definitely did in some areas. Hopefully will have a noticeable difference there as well.
I also tried the protocol on my face and neck at .25mm. Not necessarily the same number of passes as I did on my head but definitely did in some areas. Hopefully will have a noticeable difference there as well.
- Reaction score
- 64
I think the reason why they use only 1mm is because if they were to use the other way where they go really deep then with then density they would truly butcher their scalps. Just imagine that density at 2-3mm depth. There would be blood all over the place.
Maybe 36pins cartridge would be more efficient ? what you guys think, cause almost everybody that is needling is using 12pins or a 192 pins dermaroller .
I think in the end 1.5mm is not necessarely needed, since the first study on needling involved 1.5 dermaroller and i highly doubt these needles were going full depth .
Enjoy the next 48hrs sweating or anything that raises your heart rate is fun my head had the texture of a decorative autumn squash by day three.
Post needling RAW is the word, its not a collection of random sharp pains for me but a hive mind of burning throbbing. Minoxidil application was tough to spread due to pain and texture resistance i normally use a blunt needle 1ml syringe for accuracy i ended up just using the spray bottle and showering in it.
No definable blood spots for me ,but my needle cartridge was a pink, plasma, skin, slimy chuck in the bin mess. red 72hours pealed like crazy for the next 48hours after so was normalized and pain free by day 5 have a Boris Johnson comb over so skin being mess didn't concern me.
only ever had sun burn a few times on backs of my hands id say it was very similar to that duration ,sensation, looks and pealing. Tho that's just me a top hair transplant surgeon said i had most lax skin he had ever seen so i may have different results than the median person.
- Reaction score
- 3,659
Perhaps that's partially the idea with only doing it every 2 weeks, so you don't knock down the growth factor response by doing it too often.
Hmm like a weightlifting style callus on the scalp you mean or deeper nervous system "oh it just that again its not a real injury lets half *** it "respose from the body , Theres only 24 sessions a year for tolerance build up possibly 12 maintenance . so hopefuly 100 sessions till a real cure lol.
I can see the drop off rate for this being high. i literally know how many days i have till next session as it was so bad my mind don't let me forget
- Reaction score
- 146
Any realistic timeline on when follica might release this?