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If one orders the PQQ from Amazon...you may see a paper inside with a code for 5% off your next purchase directly from Supervits. Keep that in mind when figuring out the prices...how much you order this first time via Amazon...etc.

Here's a good read from Dr. Murray on CoQ10, ubiquinol..etc.

http://www.doctormurray.com/2011/06/coenzyme-q10-uses-forms-and-dosage-recommendations/

Is it true that ubiquinol is 8 times better absorbed than ubiquinone?

No, this marketing statement is taking data out of context. It involved comparing the absorption of 300 mg of ubiquinol in the aforementioned absorption study with blood levels achieved in studies in Parkinson’s disease were dosages of 2,400 mg of ubiquinone were given along with 1,200 IU of vitamin E. The problem with this comparison is that high dosage vitamin E interferes with CoQ10 absorption and when dosages of ubiquinone exceed 300 mg the percentage of CoQ10 absorbed declines significantly. Plasma CoQ10 levels at a dosage of 2,400 mg per day are not significantly greater than a 600 mg per day dosage. So, a more accurate approximation is that ubiquinol is only slightly better absorbed compared to CoQ10 in soft gel capsules emulsified with rice bran oil at dosages of 100 mg per day and about two times better absorbed compared at 300 mg per day as shown in the tables above.
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Get's into the nano versions etc a bit:

While many have jumped on the ubiquinol bandwagon, it is important to point out that ubiquinone has an extensive history of successful use, particularly in oil-based soft-gelatin capsules. Furthermore, several technologies are now used to enhance the bioavailability of ubiquinone such as particle size reduction (nanonization) and solubility enhancement via use of emulsifying agents, carriers, and self-emulsifying systems.14 For example, complexing ubiquinone to a soy peptide (BioQ10 SA) has shown exceptional bioavailability as the soy peptide emulsifies the CoQ10 and helps usher it into the blood stream.15 Given the excellent absorption of this form of ubiquinone, the advantage of ubiquinol over regular ubiquinone appears to have more to do with its improved solubility than because it is in the ubiquinol form.
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Awesome! For the price difference I would rather stay on Coq10!Second time I see something like this. Thanks again Jacob!
 
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Jacob said:
Swanson products mentioned earlier now online:

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU542/ItemDetail

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU688/ItemDetail
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I wish that Glutathione Precursor Complex from Swanson would be available right now.. Cheap for what it does.. There is product on the market like Max gxl tha uses pretty much the same ingredients for way higher price.. I am trying to find a similar product with the same Setria stuff!

That non-denatured whey looks good!
http://www.iherb.com/Natural-Factors-Wh ... 15138?at=0

That Bioactive Whey only contain 300 grams! for 29.99 Only 8 grams of protein per serving! Is is a copy of Immunocal?
 
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Jacob said:
Have you tried the True Whey? I like this company http://teraswhey.com/ but the flavors I've tried so far weren' the greatest.

Back to the CoQ10..forgot about this VesiSorb stuff: http://www.nutraexpress.com/designs-for-health-q-avail-nano-powder-60-gms.aspx#tabs

20% off with code INDEPENDENCE. I've gotten the NanoPro from them before..they have the 20% etc off from time to time. I think that powder is only 60 servings though.

Doctor's Best etc also have the VesiSorb
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No tried True Whey yet... Rather expensive for the amount you got.. will see.. I want to try some non-denatured way for the next months with lifting..a need a lot! Ditch all the crappy
whey !

Maybe will go with this one: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/v ... olate.html or http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bn/protowhey.html

Ubiquinol is not cheap at all! How do you find all this fancy stuff? you are crazy Jacob! :punk: f*****g brands I never heard before! and I am a supplement freak!
 
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Hey Jacob! Have you seen this one? http://www.max.com/page.php?page=maxone


http://www.max.com/page.php?page=riboceineresearch

Normally ribose is formed in each cell through a process of bio-chemical reactions known as PPP (pentose phosphate pathway). This pathway also helps to make a very important substance called NADPH (nictinamide adenine dinucleotide phosphate) which the body uses to convert the bad, oxidized form of glutathione to the good, reduced form of glutathione.Both forms of glutathione are measured in the methylation panel. Reduced glutathione is good because it removes peroxides from the system, hopefully before they can damage cell membranes

Is it why Ribose works with Cysteine?It is reall interesting.. Thinking about going Cysteine Peptide/ D-Ribose combo. Would be a major blows to free radicals.
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Again, you can inject the stuff. Orally it does not work, other antioxidants will increase both SOD and Gluth. SOD is even better IMO.
 
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squeegee..I have tried the Proto-Whey..the bars as well, which are very good. I think the Vitamin Shoppe is the only place to get their non-artificial sweetener laced bars. Or was when I got them. The powder last I checked all contained the artificial sweetner. JayRobb is another that comes to mind..all natural.

I think the Glutathione Precursor Complex IS available right now :dunno: Was it out of stock earlier? There is a 10% off coupon for Swansons right now btw. The Healthy Origins uses Setria..it's bioavailability has shown to be just fine.

MaxOne is what lakota posted about earlier..he's had some experience with it.

purecontrol...if you're referring to glutathione...it works GREAT orally. At least the Acetyl-Glutathione does for me. Then there's liposomal and even Setria..etc. SOD is good too..although Glut is considered the master antioxidant. Been a big fan of GliSODin before it even became available in capsule form! Will be tryi?ng a non-gliadin form of SOD in the near future.
 
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Jacob said:
squeegee..I have tried the Proto-Whey..the bars as well, which are very good. I think the Vitamin Shoppe is the only place to get their non-artificial sweetener laced bars. Or was when I got them. The powder last I checked all contained the artificial sweetner. JayRobb is another that comes to mind..all natural.

I think the Glutathione Precursor Complex IS available right now :dunno: Was it out of stock earlier? There is a 10% off coupon for Swansons right now btw. The Healthy Origins uses Setria..it's bioavailability has shown to be just fine.

MaxOne is what lakota posted about earlier..he's had some experience with it.

purecontrol...if you're referring to glutathione...it works GREAT orally. At least the Acetyl-Glutathione does for me. Then there's liposomal and even Setria..etc. SOD is good too..although Glut is considered the master antioxidant. Been a big fan of GliSODin before it even became available in capsule form! Will be tryi?ng a non-gliadin form of SOD in the near future.
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The glutathione precursor from Swanson is backordered! I ordered x2 ImmunoPro Rx, 10.6 oz (300 g) from iherb...also x2 VP2 Whey protein and 120 capsules of PQQ from Amazon.com!
I am taking x2 times Glisodin a day with Biotec Extra energy enzymes.. Nothing beat the cysteine peptides from Nutricology but got discontinued..I think Allergy research and Nutricology are the same cie right now and offer the Immunopro and renewpro as the replacement for the cyspep! I also bought d=ribose...wanna try it with the whey! Help the cysteine to get absobed at the mitochondria level apparently!...
 
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So do you think that the bio available whey makes a huge difference to glutathione production? I ask because approx one year ago whilst just using fluridil my hair loss completly stopped for several months. At that time I was eating well ok but I often eat healthy, the only other thing I was doing was training 5 times a week really hard and drinking 1 to 3 whey shakes a day with goats milk. At that time I grew new hairs below my widows peak that I hadn't seen for years and my hair looked almost as good as before I was even aware I was balding.

Might be nothing but I keep racking my brains as to what it could have been. Like I say it was normal whey though, but lots of it.
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I would say yes! I tried different kinds of acetyl-cysteine in the past.. from Jarrow to Swanson. I tried l-cysteine.. also in different forms.. but the best of all was Cysteine Peptide recommended by Jacob ... 1 scoop was 3.5 grams ...I was taking 2 daily, but wow.. best results ever with cysteine.. they needed to be peptide bonded to end up in the blood... Free radicals is a big part of male pattern baldness.. and glutathione is the strongest antioxidant in your body. period. I have better and faster results (10000000x) while on SOD. Gluth boosters using Miconazole Nitrate ... That show you a lot that Oxidative stress is a major threat in male pattern baldness.
 
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Will see how it goes ..but next thinking about going everything liposomal... easy to do yourself also..sick of popping pills!

It will be so simple to encapsulated L-cysteine for dirt cheap..
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The body’s endogenous antioxidant is the strongest of all!
 
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That's made by the same company as the ones I posted earlier. Here's the full list of liposomal products: http://www.letstalkhealth.com/Liposomal-s/32.htm I think their 10% off coupon ended last night.

There's at least one other label/brand selling them as well. I personally would rather try those than make my own :)
 
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Jacob said:
That's made by the same company as the ones I posted earlier. Here's the full list of liposomal products: http://www.letstalkhealth.com/Liposomal-s/32.htm I think their 10% off coupon ended last night.

There's at least one other label/brand selling them as well. I personally would rather try those than make my own :)
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Jacob..Do you know any Liposomal SOD around?
 
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I see Oxicell has their products in pump bottles now: http://drguberman.com/amino-acids-c-73_125?page=2&sort=2a Available at Amazon as well.

Other similar products out there..like this: http://www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/sod_cat.htm

Liposomal SOD? Assuming you mean internal...can't really think of any. There's Quantum SOD http://www.phpure.com/nutrition_products/pdfs/SOD_Q.pdf ..the Japanese connection they talk about there..I posted something about it somewhere. Trying to remember if it's encapsulated or what :dunno:

There's another that's a liquid..can be used as eye drops too...can't think of the name....

Years ago I got excited about these guys: http://www.polymun.at/ I see they're finally working on a product....
 
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