Hairloss at a young age is a prison

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I have no clue what you are complaining about
Not complaining. Just trying to help other people not to be bald because it sucks worse than just about anything but cancer and paralysis. It can take a gorgeous 17 year old boy who is glorious with a glimmer in his eye to an unattractive shut-in in three years or less. I know just how awful it is as I used to be NW7. My baldness credentials are right up there with anyone and it almost destroyed my life. If someone can just accept it, then literally, he is more man than I am. But face it, the world doesn't need us out their breeding so we have to turn things around somehow. Goddess bless you and all of us struggling with hair loss and self-image problems as they can be psychologically devastating.
 

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I will give you a list of sites that sell v**** without a prescription. I mean who cares how you get it up as long as you do and cialis lasts for days so you can be spontaneous if you don't have the 45 minutes to wait for v**** to come

In my opinion, a young guy of 24 should not be advised to take v**** to handle the side effects of a drug that is clearly ruining his (sexual) health.
 

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Not complaining. Just trying to help other people not to be bald because it sucks worse than just about anything but cancer and paralysis. It can take a gorgeous 17 year old boy who is glorious with a glimmer in his eye to an unattractive shut-in in three years or less. I know just how awful it is as I used to be NW7. My baldness credentials are right up there with anyone and it almost destroyed my life. If someone can just accept it, then literally, he is more man than I am. But face it, the world doesn't need us out their breeding so we have to turn things around somehow. Goddess bless you and all of us struggling with hair loss and self-image problems as they can be psychologically devastating.

my point was not that I expect everything to be perfect... I am just saying hairloss truly is with you for life. No matter how far you try to run from it the impact will always be there. Maintaining on finasteride or getting a good looking hair peice is the best case scenario.. and even that doesn’t feel good. I have no idea if finasteride is ruining my sexual health or it’s something else.. yet I am to afraid to stop taking it. The fear of balding outweighs the fear of ED to me. That is why it feels like hell to me... you are left with 2 sh*t options. Even if you take finasteride you are never truly cured.

it’s important to keep perspective in life because it always could be worse. But the point I’m at I have accepted I will never be able to date or marry due to ED. It depresses me, but I at least can function on some level and look forward to certain aspects of life. If I was full nw7 I literally couldn’t leave the house. For me it’s a combination of balding/ mental health issues ( makes you always second guess yourself). I feel like I have no right to complain about anything I suffer due to finasteride because “ I did this to myself out of vanity”. This is what most people think but it could not be farther from the truth.
 

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my point was not that I expect everything to be perfect... I am just saying hairloss truly is with you for life. No matter how far you try to run from it the impact will always be there. Maintaining on finasteride or getting a good looking hair peice is the best case scenario.. and even that doesn’t feel good. I have no idea if finasteride is ruining my sexual health or it’s something else.. yet I am to afraid to stop taking it. The fear of balding outweighs the fear of ED to me. That is why it feels like hell to me... you are left with 2 sh*t options. Even if you take finasteride you are never truly cured.

it’s important to keep perspective in life because it always could be worse. But the point I’m at I have accepted I will never be able to date or marry due to ED. It depresses me, but I at least can function on some level and look forward to certain aspects of life. If I was full nw7 I literally couldn’t leave the house. For me it’s a combination of balding/ mental health issues ( makes you always second guess yourself). I feel like I have no right to complain about anything I suffer due to finasteride because “ I did this to myself out of vanity”. This is what most people think but it could not be farther from the truth.
Hairloss is life destroying at young age
 

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my point was not that I expect everything to be perfect... I am just saying hairloss truly is with you for life. No matter how far you try to run from it the impact will always be there. Maintaining on finasteride or getting a good looking hair peice is the best case scenario.. and even that doesn’t feel good. I have no idea if finasteride is ruining my sexual health or it’s something else.. yet I am to afraid to stop taking it. The fear of balding outweighs the fear of ED to me. That is why it feels like hell to me... you are left with 2 sh*t options. Even if you take finasteride you are never truly cured.

it’s important to keep perspective in life because it always could be worse. But the point I’m at I have accepted I will never be able to date or marry due to ED. It depresses me, but I at least can function on some level and look forward to certain aspects of life. If I was full nw7 I literally couldn’t leave the house. For me it’s a combination of balding/ mental health issues ( makes you always second guess yourself). I feel like I have no right to complain about anything I suffer due to finasteride because “ I did this to myself out of vanity”. This is what most people think but it could not be farther from the truth.
That's not true. It might be more true about cis-females but non-binary and gay men will sleep with you. ED doesn't matter to them and they prefer very small penises. There's a whole sissy movement which has arisen with the gals who don't get SRS.

 
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That's not true. It might be more true about cis-females but non-binary and gay men will sleep with you. ED doesn't matter to them and they prefer very small penises. There's a whole sissy movement which has arisen with the gals who don't get SRS.

Yea that sounds like fun..lol. Honestly I have no sex drive anyways, but I wouldn’t mind companionship. Finding someone who doesn’t want sex and is compatible is like a one in a million shot though. I’d rather just find enjoyment from passions I suppose.
 

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Yea that sounds like fun..lol. Honestly I have no sex drive anyways, but I wouldn’t mind companionship. Finding someone who doesn’t want sex and is compatible is like a one in a million shot though. I’d rather just find enjoyment from passions I suppose.
Ever thought of stopping finasteride temporary to see what it's like? then just take it again before you lose anyhting
 

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*** is overrated. I cant believe how man dont want to exchange that to hair! Lol

_jk ofc_ xD but thb the first part is true.
 

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Ever thought of stopping finasteride temporary to see what it's like? then just take it again before you lose anyhting
Yea I’m very curious to see. I hardly Remeber what I felt like before I was on finasteride. It’s so weird because I don’t even Remeber if I used to get morning wood or not.

but realistically what do I have to gain? If I stop finasteride and start feeling great I’m still forced to take finasteride and suffer if I wanna keep my hair. Yea there’s other options, but not many when you are diffuse thinning and NW7 pattern. If I could even pull of an average bald guy look 5/10 I would do it and forget about it. It’s such a curse to be on this stuff for life. It is a great drug for keeping your hair, but mental aspect of the sides is overbearing. You never know what is normal and what is a finasteride side. I try to not let myself get caught up in the placebo affect but never knowing is rough.
 

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Yea I’m very curious to see. I hardly Remeber what I felt like before I was on finasteride. It’s so weird because I don’t even Remeber if I used to get morning wood or not.

but realistically what do I have to gain? If I stop finasteride and start feeling great I’m still forced to take finasteride and suffer if I wanna keep my hair. Yea there’s other options, but not many when you are diffuse thinning and NW7 pattern. If I could even pull of an average bald guy look 5/10 I would do it and forget about it. It’s such a curse to be on this stuff for life. It is a great drug for keeping your hair, but mental aspect of the sides is overbearing. You never know what is normal and what is a finasteride side. I try to not let myself get caught up in the placebo affect but never knowing is rough.
You had morning wood for sure. Placebo doesn't last that long... why stop? well you could shave your head or not and then decide which kind of suffering you prefer, otherwise you will always be left with questions. I dunno that's what I would do.
Was your diffuse thinning really that bad?
What about minoxidil and microneedling, seems to work well with diffuse thinners
 

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You had morning wood for sure. Placebo doesn't last that long... why stop? well you could shave your head or not and then decide which kind of suffering you prefer, otherwise you will always be left with questions. I dunno that's what I would do.
Was your diffuse thinning really that bad?
What about minoxidil and microneedling, seems to work well with diffuse thinners
Na my diffuse thinning wasnt that bad since I got finasteride before it progressed. I think I’m an extreme case of not being able to pull of a shaved head otherwise I would. Hair just matters more for certain body/face types sadly. I don’t think I’d be able to maintain my hair with just minoxidil and micro needling but maybe. Almost every male I’m related to went bald in their early 20s.
 

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Yea I’m very curious to see. I hardly Remeber what I felt like before I was on finasteride. It’s so weird because I don’t even Remeber if I used to get morning wood or not.

but realistically what do I have to gain? If I stop finasteride and start feeling great I’m still forced to take finasteride and suffer if I wanna keep my hair. Yea there’s other options, but not many when you are diffuse thinning and NW7 pattern. If I could even pull of an average bald guy look 5/10 I would do it and forget about it. It’s such a curse to be on this stuff for life. It is a great drug for keeping your hair, but mental aspect of the sides is overbearing. You never know what is normal and what is a finasteride side. I try to not let myself get caught up in the placebo affect but never knowing is rough.
Try drizzling topical min on the back of your tongue, from one to 16 drops daily plus topical min the normal way, once daily. If that doesn't regrow hair then probably only AA's or E2/P4 might work.
 

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If Bica is not feminizing, then what would the point be of MtF's using it? So we can keep body building? So we can keep plowing? Maybe but it is sure to feminize face, breasts, hips, *** and thighs and likely to shrink genitalia in the flaccid state. It may be safer than spironolactone and work better in some aspects than CPA or provera but then again, it might not as this is highly person-dependent.

But you still feminize. There is no magic bullet to regrow hair without feminization unless it is oral min and some say that that might have hormonal effects too. All AA's might cause depression in certain individuals, unlike estrogen and depression is dangerous in people with hair or gender dysphoria or both. I haven't used bica as my provider is still wary of 'mides and it is expensive to use without insurance. But I have never felt weaker in my life than when on only 2.5mg of Premarin and 200 mg of spironolactone. I couldn't lift things or walk stairs or mow the lawn or open the peanut butter jar. I had to pee and sweat constantly and I often woke up in the middle of the night to ingest salt from a shaker on my night stand. It all went back to baseline when I upped E2 and dumped spironolactone. Now I never used an AA alone because MtF's all are told constantly that this is not a viable path and much less safe than estrogen.

I note that I remain on 10mg daily with provera with none of the spironolactone sides at all. Provera and CPA and P4 work straightforwardly and some of you guys don't understand the differences.
 
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Not complaining. Just trying to help other people not to be bald because it sucks worse than just about anything but cancer and paralysis. It can take a gorgeous 17 year old boy who is glorious with a glimmer in his eye to an unattractive shut-in in three years or less. I know just how awful it is as I used to be NW7. My baldness credentials are right up there with anyone and it almost destroyed my life. If someone can just accept it, then literally, he is more man than I am. But face it, the world doesn't need us out their breeding so we have to turn things around somehow. Goddess bless you and all of us struggling with hair loss and self-image problems as they can be psychologically devastating.
 

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No it didn’t thanks to finasteride. I was ( and still am) early stage diffuse thinning. I am pretty sure if I quit finasteride my hair will go to crap. NW7 pattern ( thinning on sides) and strong genetic predisposition for young age severe hairloss.
you had zero thinning of any kind. you really havent gone to therapy for your BDD in all these years? it doesnt seem to be going away
 

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If your hairloss is somewhat stable, definitely get a transplant. (hell even if it isn't, hair is important when you're young, in worst case scenario just keep on gettin transplants unless your donor is sh*t)
That's what I'm going to do in my late twenties, I won't have enough money before that. My donor is probably good aside from lower neck thinning
 

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Can't you got to Turkey for a transplant? Most western surgeons aren't any better but they are much more expensive. For example Demirsoy is 1.25 euor/graft
Yes, but I'm still a poor college student for few more years and have other priorites right now. Lucky for me I have relatives in Istanbul xD
 

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my point was not that I expect everything to be perfect... I am just saying hairloss truly is with you for life. No matter how far you try to run from it the impact will always be there. Maintaining on finasteride or getting a good looking hair peice is the best case scenario.. and even that doesn’t feel good. I have no idea if finasteride is ruining my sexual health or it’s something else.. yet I am to afraid to stop taking it. The fear of balding outweighs the fear of ED to me. That is why it feels like hell to me... you are left with 2 sh*t options. Even if you take finasteride you are never truly cured.

it’s important to keep perspective in life because it always could be worse. But the point I’m at I have accepted I will never be able to date or marry due to ED. It depresses me, but I at least can function on some level and look forward to certain aspects of life. If I was full nw7 I literally couldn’t leave the house. For me it’s a combination of balding/ mental health issues ( makes you always second guess yourself). I feel like I have no right to complain about anything I suffer due to finasteride because “ I did this to myself out of vanity”. This is what most people think but it could not be farther from the truth.
I can't verify all of the science but I know exactly how you feel. A hair system requires a fair amount of maintenance on its own. The dysphoria from baldness is rampant and can occupy all of our thoughts.
 
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