They do have some form of Latin script not to mention, in Asia, it is very common for children who grow up elsewhere to be illiterate, so to speak. I had a profession whose parents were from Taiwan and he used to joke about being illiterate.we can skip to japanese, of course...
japanese without kanji is not usable btw...
Bold claim. My BA entailed 2 years of Japanese language courses and I disagree. They'd just have to use European writing conventions as well, aka space between seperate wordsinsteadofonecontinuousscribble.japanese without kanji is not usable btw...
then you still couldnt figure out what word it is a lot of the time...Bold claim. My BA entailed 2 years of Japanese language courses and I disagree. They'd just have to use European writing conventions as well, aka space between seperate wordsinsteadofonecontinuousscribble.
It doesn’twhy does fnasteride make me so pale?
There are studies that show that it reduces melanin in the skin are you disputing these studies?It doesn’t
There are studies that show that it reduces melanin in the skin are you disputing these studies?
I agree that you have to be able to read the kanji to some degree. In the first year we only learned hiragana and katakana.then you still couldnt figure out what word it is a lot of the time...
because they are written the same way then... or you wouldnt know which part is grammar and which isnt...
it doesnt work with context all/most of the time...
but yeah, yours is the typical foreigner point of view and the way most foreigners study (no offense of course)... that works as long as you are outside of japan...
well that is of course good to know...I agree that you have to be able to read the kanji to some degree. In the first year we only learned hiragana and katakana.
The good thing is, that when I was visiting China, I could at least read a little bit of Chinese, and could tell if I was ordering chicken or beef when there was no menu in English available.
I use the wanikani app for learning kanji. I used to do my reviews and lessons while commuting to and from work, but the last year, working from home, I have not been able to advance much. Also, work got in the way.well that is of course good to know...
for whatever reason menus are among the hardest things for me to read... most likely because i never really went out for food for a few years and im not used to... so even if i knew how to read, i wouldnt really know what it is anyway, unless i heard it before...
have to admit that i dont know too many kanji, maybe 1000, which is more or less useless... that happens when you study that on/off... or when you got to work and got no time for that^^
Provide the studies please
i study by book and handwriting... well kanji that is... otherwise im quite good, i mean it is the only language i use in real life anyway, so i better be good at it...I use the wanikani app for learning kanji. I used to do my reviews and lessons while commuting to and from work, but the last year, working from home, I have not been able to advance much. Also, work got in the way.
argumentum ad verecundiam fallacy. Since you consider yourself an insider, who has superior insights due to being a longterm sexpat or glorious nipponese, you should be able to come up with a more convincing argument than just pointing to my presumed outsider status. I have lived in Japan for more than a year and many Japanese had quite a different view than you and said that kanji are kept for traditionalism and national identity. Most inflections or particles are very distinctive and easy to recognize, not to mention you could write them as seperate entities just like words anyways.then you still couldnt figure out what word it is a lot of the time...
because they are written the same way then... or you wouldnt know which part is grammar and which isnt...
it doesnt work with context all/most of the time...
i dont consider myself to be an insider, imargumentum ad verecundiam fallacy. Since you consider yourself an insider, who has superior insights due to being a longterm sexpat or glorious nipponese, you should be able to come up with a more convincing argument than just pointing to my presumed outsider status. I have lived in Japan for more than a year and many Japanese had quite a different view than you and said that kanji are kept for traditionalism and national identity. Most inflections or particles are very distinctive and easy to recognize, not to mention you could write them as seperate entities just like words anyways.
You realize that people don't speak in Kanji either and still are able to understand each other.Context works 99.999% of times. There's ambivalence in any language and there is just as much ambivalence in Kanji as well, the reading can be even more contextual than hiragana, which at least tell you the phonetics, whereas almost every kanji syntagma has multiple readings.View attachment 163196
It's quit interesting as a part of semantic or etymological insights for sure. But it is not a neccessity for a functioning writing system. Just as etymological research into Latin, Celtic and Germanic roots of words is not necessary, when using the alphabet to write an English sentence.I like the kanji, they make you see the origin of words, like 金玉, testicles, literally: golden balls. The word for irony 皮肉,consists of skin and flesh. The kanji show you that. You would not know if you just learned the words in hiragana.
well you can get rid of anything, if you put it like that...It's quit interesting as a part of semantic or etymological insights for sure. But it is not a neccessity for a functioning writing system. Just as etymological research into Latin, Celtic and Germanic roots of words is not necessary, when using the alphabet to write an English sentence.
Whether you should get rid of kanji, is still an entirely different question as to whether you could.