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I think Vitamin K2 is an amazing supplement though I do not think it will prevent male pattern baldness unfortunately.
How Different Types Of Estrogen Promote (and Hinder) Hair Growth
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I think Vitamin K2 is an amazing supplement though I do not think it will prevent male pattern baldness unfortunately.
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It's not strange for a man to take topical scalp estrogen.
For me, topical estrogen had more feminizing effects than high doses of topical Progesterone.
What is interesting, is that male erections also depend on estrogen and testosterone.
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Progesterone has a protective effect on brain cells.
On the flip side, Progesterone might cause type II diabetes.
As a female, you're lucky that diabetes occurs more often in men then
women.
In my own experience, topical Retinal used to cause hair loss. But the Progesterone
prevents that as well.
Estrogen had a more temporary feminizing effect on me than Progesterone does. That's
why I quit taking it.
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Is topical EE even a thing?
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Interesting, what were the results like of people that used this “miracle” lotion?
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I took it orally for 3 years and it did jack all, if that helps.
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Guys, you realise EE is EXTREMELY feminising? It is infinitely more potent than E2, which is the strongest of the natural estrogens. You will grow boobs. I’m not joking.
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Yeah I wouldn’t touch EE, and am not convinced it is an ideal estrogen for hair growth.
Where did you get Equol, are you using it orally or topically?
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Go it from Wuhan Butra Biotech on alibaba. I take 110mg orally and around 50mg topically every day
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How are your results?
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Felt I should share this clinical trial on topical Estriol for male pattern baldness:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3729560A/en
Although the results weren't spectacular I feel the need to explore every avenue before throwing in the towel. I ordered some topical Estriol on amazon (Life-Flo Estriol care) for kicks to see what might happen.
Current regime:
.5 Duta (3.5 months)
5mg Oral minoxidil (2.5mg 2x daily for 2.5 months)
Adding Estriol 06/04/18
No sign of improvements thus far....
Prior Regime:
200 mg of Spiralactalone 2 months
.5 Duta 2 months
I started taking the duta 2 weeks prior to starting Spiralactalone just ensure any side effects were pinpointed to each new drug introduced into my system. About 1 month after started spironolactone I began to experience some typical side effects (loss of libido, softer erections, lack of interest in women). Although it wasn't what I wanted, I too, like many others have reported, enjoyed the calmness and peaceful mindset that comes with lowering your testosterone. I felt centered and less distracted. However, I still very much enjoyed indulging in a women's presence and couldn't imagine myself further down the rabbit hole. I didn't see any improvement with my hair within this short trial and error. I pulled the plug and within two weeks I had my old self (horn dog) back.
Prior Prior regime:
Topical Minoxidil for 1 year
.5 Finasteride for 1 year
Little to no improvement. At best it possibly helped sustain hair and reduced fallout.
Sexual side effects began after two weeks (Itchy all over my body right after an orgasm) but only lasted for a month.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3729560A/en
Although the results weren't spectacular I feel the need to explore every avenue before throwing in the towel. I ordered some topical Estriol on amazon (Life-Flo Estriol care) for kicks to see what might happen.
Current regime:
.5 Duta (3.5 months)
5mg Oral minoxidil (2.5mg 2x daily for 2.5 months)
Adding Estriol 06/04/18
No sign of improvements thus far....
Prior Regime:
200 mg of Spiralactalone 2 months
.5 Duta 2 months
I started taking the duta 2 weeks prior to starting Spiralactalone just ensure any side effects were pinpointed to each new drug introduced into my system. About 1 month after started spironolactone I began to experience some typical side effects (loss of libido, softer erections, lack of interest in women). Although it wasn't what I wanted, I too, like many others have reported, enjoyed the calmness and peaceful mindset that comes with lowering your testosterone. I felt centered and less distracted. However, I still very much enjoyed indulging in a women's presence and couldn't imagine myself further down the rabbit hole. I didn't see any improvement with my hair within this short trial and error. I pulled the plug and within two weeks I had my old self (horn dog) back.
Prior Prior regime:
Topical Minoxidil for 1 year
.5 Finasteride for 1 year
Little to no improvement. At best it possibly helped sustain hair and reduced fallout.
Sexual side effects began after two weeks (Itchy all over my body right after an orgasm) but only lasted for a month.
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Frustrating. I can tell that it’s improving my existing hair but I shed so much that I can’t keep up with it. I need to find a way to ditch minoxidil.
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Do you have pictures of your hair throughout your treatments?
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I think hormone receptor expression is very important and we may come to find that a proper balance of receptors is what is needed (even ARs) in hair follicles and the scalp. Continuously trying to block ARs or Androgens does not seem like a long term and successful treatment but modulating it's express combined with the ERs and PRs seem to be what is very important. How we go about this is difficult to do. However we know that soy isoflavones seem to activate ER-b and downregulate ARs and ER-a, this has been shown to be helpful in prostate cancer even in a normal Testosterone environment. Curcumin also downregulates ARs as well as inflammatory cytokines. These are two things that I feel are helpful in androgen receptor dysfunction disorders while not impacting the production of Androgens, which are vital for health.
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I used to use topical estrogen (that is estradiolbenzoate), but quickly realized it is a completely unrealistic hair loss "treatment".
By unrealistic I mean for anyone who isn't going suicidal over hair loss it is not an option because it will disable your erections and make your libido nonexistent. If you're a guy looking to have a normal life with hair loss (that means you are interested in girls and relationships) forget that sh*t. If you plan on living incel mode for the rest of your life just sitting in your house, then by all means.
I used to have an "at all cost" approach to hair loss but some things are just not reasonable and estrogen is one of those. Having no libido and barely able to get an erection when looking at women defeats the point of having hair in the first place. Not to mention being moody with burning nipples and feeling like a b**ch. These are just not viable options for anyone who wants to live a normal life.
We have some people here with... questionable sexual identities and orientations who castrate themselves and even enjoy this, but they are far from the majority and I think most men would not be comfortable with that. This is coming from someone who has used topical estrogen at near-HRT doses for 3 months, and thankfully most of the damage is reversible. I would not f*** with it anymore.
By unrealistic I mean for anyone who isn't going suicidal over hair loss it is not an option because it will disable your erections and make your libido nonexistent. If you're a guy looking to have a normal life with hair loss (that means you are interested in girls and relationships) forget that sh*t. If you plan on living incel mode for the rest of your life just sitting in your house, then by all means.
I used to have an "at all cost" approach to hair loss but some things are just not reasonable and estrogen is one of those. Having no libido and barely able to get an erection when looking at women defeats the point of having hair in the first place. Not to mention being moody with burning nipples and feeling like a b**ch. These are just not viable options for anyone who wants to live a normal life.
We have some people here with... questionable sexual identities and orientations who castrate themselves and even enjoy this, but they are far from the majority and I think most men would not be comfortable with that. This is coming from someone who has used topical estrogen at near-HRT doses for 3 months, and thankfully most of the damage is reversible. I would not f*** with it anymore.
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wish you would join the discord
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Where though.
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Read paragraph 3.