How to deal with side effects from Propecia

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monty1978 said:
I could do I suppose but I'd rather get a prescription for it and then I know what I'm getting. I've had enough of taking chances with my body.
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This sh*t isn't faked. It's cheap and easily available on the black market. It's mandatory treatment for BB's, and you would be surprised if you knew how many people who're actually using steroids. Luckily, you live in the U.K. - where you're allowed to import drugs, and even steroids for personal use - so the market should be flooded with good stuff.

The alternative is a weekend in Istanbul, Turkey - where you can walk into pharmacies and buy everything you want - get on the plane and walk straight through U.K. customs with no worries at all. Man, I wish I lived in U.K.
 
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Mens Rea said:
No real improvements. It's the girth loss that's disturbing me most if im honest, really feeling sexually compromised now. But when i get a decent erection (80%) it looks acceptable.

But i'll be honest, it's in my head literally every minute of the day. I must recover.
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i have a "particular" girth loss.

the base of penis is not really shrunken but the middle is noticeable expecially
in pre erection. (more on dorsal right side)
the glans is unaffected at all

i have to say that before this i was really performant
(like come 2 times without taking dickoff a woman)
good old times :shakehead: :shakehead:
 
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Enden can you have sex normally now?
 
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No, not at the moment, but I've had days where I could. My symptoms fluctuates according to treatment. I usually f*** it up somehow, when I'm beginning to improve. I'm on TRT, and I was through treatment with Arimidex and Andractim in january/february. In march, I was beginning to improve, then I used some hGH which I had laying around, and everything went to hell again - because hGH obviously works as an aromatase inhibitor as well. Last sunday, it felt like I was at the beginning of puberty again, but things went downhill during this week. I suspected that my estrogen level was still too low according to the androgen levels, but I wasn't sure; so I used 50 mcg Arimidex today (1/20 of a 1 mg Arimidex tablet! - it's freely soluble in ethanol), and my libido disappeared, my joints and muscles are aching, and I got lethargic. Typical, f*****g side effects of estrogen deficiency from an extremely potent AI... So I'm down in the hole again. Now, I'll just stick with my testosterone injections, and hCG to speed things up.
 
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Enden, i'm curious do PDE5 inhibitors like v**** and Celexa work for you? Have you tried them? Or is lack of libido still too much of an issue even with an erection? I know PDE5 inhibitors are great at allowing you to maintain an erection, but as I understand it, they do nothing for the libido.
 
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PDE-5 inhibitors don't work... I've tried 20 mg Cialis and 100 mg v****. Both were prescribed by doctors, and obtained legally through pharmacies. Dostinex is great for increasing libido, but it'll only work if your DHT, testosterone and estrogen ratios are fairly good.
 
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But what can be responsibile for penis "melting" beside testosteron?
 
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Unfavorable ratios between DHT, estrogen and testosterone are responsible. Several other hormones are involved as well, but I believe that the main problem is estrogen dominance. During treatment with certain medications, estrogen deficiency may become the problem - as in my case. This causes reduced libido and ED as well. If you get side effects from finasteride, you have a problem with excessive estrogen.
 
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Well my estradiol is above but progesteron is normal, so i should only try to low estradiol and everything should return to normal?
 
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So you are involving your body to produce hgh, ok i will try with arginine do you think i should continue with zinc?
 
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Large doses of zinc (50 - 100 mg a day) works as an aromatase inhibitor, and will help. It's recommended as a treatment for andropause by the famous Dr. Shippen in his book "The Testosterone Syndrome". I recommend that you buy that book. Make sure it's zinc picolinate. Quit zinc when you get solid morning erections. If you continue treatment at this point, you'll suppress the estrogen level too much, and this will give you a lot of problems, including erectile dysfunction.
 
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One more thing; you should do a blood test as soon as possible, check LH, FSH, testosterone, estrogen, prolactin and SHBG - and monitor those values from now on.
 
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i did it e2 too high, shbg too low, but one day i am weaking up with solid wood and i can get and maintain erection easily but another day i don't even feel my dick. I am taking chelated zinc is this one good or not?
 
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I don't know how effective it is compared to the other types, so I recommend picolinate. The reason you should monitor those hormone values, is to track changes. They're essential for your sexual function.
 
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Ok i will. Do you have any experience with balls massage? I read that increases woods and androgens level.
 
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lol, not true. It's the HPTA which controls the testosterone production.
 
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It was about penis enlargment or something like that, and regular massage of your testicles make them bigger and bigger=more androgens, It was arabic book i don't remember the name i was only wondering:)
 
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Damn, I just realized that I barely remember how it's like; being turned on by spontaneous impressions.

Reflexology is healing by putting pressure on certain spots under the feet. My grandmother knows how to do it. It's torture if you ask me. I don't volunteer anymore :p
 
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