I feel like people don't understand incels

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why is it not fair for a single mum to expect another relationship? because the child isnt the future partners? dont you think that the future partner doesnt have to be financial responsible for it? i honestly think he doesnt have to be...
It's expecting someone to sacrifice having children. It's way too much to ask. No I don't mind a bit of charity, especially for kids. But a portion of a paycheck, no of course not, that should be the father's responsibility.
 

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It's expecting someone to sacrifice having children. It's way too much to ask. No I don't mind a bit of charity, especially for kids. But a portion of a paycheck, no of course not, that should be the father's responsibility.
well then everybody is on the same page...
i mean you date the woman, kid is part of it of course... if its too much, try to arrange it, or break it up... of course i wouldnt pay for it either... like cinema, or whatever, that doesnt matter much... but not like clothes, holidays, car, or something like that...
but i dont think that most even want that...

though still that doesnt mean that single mums should be single forever, same thing could be said about other people then...
i also dont understand why that always comes up, i dont think i have ever met a single mum in my entire life, except about two work mates... both of them didnt care about potential partners cash btw...
 

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i msis dating

- not an incel

- but not good looking enough to get decent women (6/10 id be happy with)
 

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well then everybody is on the same page...
i mean you date the woman, kid is part of it of course... if its too much, try to arrange it, or break it up... of course i wouldnt pay for it either... like cinema, or whatever, that doesnt matter much... but not like clothes, holidays, car, or something like that...
but i dont think that most even want that...

though still that doesnt mean that single mums should be single forever, same thing could be said about other people then...
i also dont understand why that always comes up, i dont think i have ever met a single mum in my entire life, except about two work mates... both of them didnt care about potential partners cash btw...
No, absolutely not on the same page. They already have a family and are not going to want two of them.

Why should I be punished with something as cruel as "no, you can't have kids." Why should I have to suffer immeasurably because of poor choices that THEY made. Completely unreasonable. It's not about money.
 

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No, absolutely not on the same page. They already have a family and are not going to want two of them.

Why should I be punished with something as cruel as "no, you can't have kids." Why should I have to suffer immeasurably because of poor choices that THEY made. Completely unreasonable. It's not about money.
who says so? bet there are single women who would like to have another one...
you paint it as if they never want any other...

i still dont get why that always comes up... where do you meet them? i mean its prety simple: just dont date them, if you dont want to...
same way i dont date/f*** women i dont want to...
same way women dont want to date you...

men better admit it that their main issue is the kids father, who might be around sometimes, or is sometimes in her head...
 

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yeah that is where i dont agree, i like travelling overseas... or lets say i used to, now at 40, im not that excited anymore...
It sounds like it could be depression.
Everyone gets it at some point, it's worth asking the GP about.
 

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It sounds like it could be depression.
Everyone gets it at some point, it's worth asking the GP about.
na its called busy and not being able to get many days of... and working two jobs, while having hobbies and studying^^ that is all... international travel is just too much of a hassle, wouldnt wven have time for research atm...
 

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honestly you people should maybe try the church to get some woman...
I considered that. It's a place that people go to worship. It can be disrespectful to interfere or be there only to find someone.
 

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I considered that. It's a place that people go to worship. It can be disrespectful to interfere or be there only to find someone.
lol you shouldnt hit on people during the mass^^ can do that after that^^ or maybe there are even events...
 

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who says so? bet there are single women who would like to have another one...
you paint it as if they never want any other...

i still dont get why that always comes up... where do you meet them? i mean its prety simple: just dont date them, if you dont want to...
same way i dont date/f*** women i dont want to...
same way women dont want to date you...

men better admit it that their main issue is the kids father, who might be around sometimes, or is sometimes in her head...
I highly doubt that single mothers want more kids. Complete non starter.

How do you know they don't want to date me? There isn't a clear path to even meet.

What...? The father should definitely be around his children.
 

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I highly doubt that single mothers want more kids. Complete non starter.

How do you know they don't want to date me? There isn't a clear path to even meet.

What...? The father should definitely be around his children.
if the father was around they most likely wouldnt be single mum...
if they are single mums and the father pays and is in the lids life, better for the next bf...
i just doubt that the father usually is in the kids life...

i still dont know why you are all so obsessed with single mums and where the hell you even meet some...
also what about single fathers? also trash?
 

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That's what I meant. Still seems inappropriate.
church events apparently exist, you hear it all the time that men want to meet their partner there and women also do that, same values and blabla...
would even bet there is some christian tinder^^ date-for-christ or something...
 

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if the father was around they most likely wouldnt be single mum...
if they are single mums and the father pays and is in the lids life, better for the next bf...
i just doubt that the father usually is in the kids life...

i still dont know why you are all so obsessed with single mums and where the hell you even meet some...
also what about single fathers? also trash?
To be around their child, no that doesn't mean the relationship is still on.

Men go through hell just to be with their kids, thanks to a disgraceful court system. I don't know why you'd think otherwise.

Weren't you the one that brought up single mothers? Or someone else? It wasn't me.
 

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To be around their child, no that doesn't mean the relationship is still on.

Men go through hell just to be with their kids, thanks to a disgraceful court system. I don't know why you'd think otherwise.

Weren't you the one that brought up single mothers? Or someone else? It wasn't me.
because you hear it way more often that men just abandon their kids, because dont want to pay, or didnt want one in the first place, because they were like 24...
in the west that is... in the east here, the women just take the kids and you never see them again, if they want to... extreme example, but happens often enough that people know about it...
 

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because you hear it way more often that men just abandon their kids, because dont want to pay, or didnt want one in the first place, because they were like 24...
in the west that is... in the east here, the women just take the kids and you never see them again, if they want to... extreme example, but happens often enough that people know about it...
I'm sure there are some guys that exist that would do that at 24, but I sure don't know anyone like that. Do you? Still sounds like girls making poor choices and picking the worst.

Why aren't they picking guys that don't have a problem with responsibility? That actually want to start a family?

One explanation for guys running away; could be just how promiscuous girls are these days... If she doesn't know who the father is, she will lie and pick a guy anyway. Why should you have to forego having your own to raise someone else's offspring?

If she's had sex with more than a couple, that's a giant red flag. Same with refusing a paternity test.

It also seems that the best solution to all this, would be to stop denying men abortion rights.
 
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