I will probably kill myself within a couple of years at this point

[Tom4362]

it's

 

[Tom4362]

over

 

[KevinEdEddEddy]

Idk how about you, but many men feel outright suicidal if they are losing their hair and don't shave it or use a hair system. I think it's time to take up some action, either shave it or get yourself a hair system. Also, if you are still in college, you can get yourself a degree and turn your life around

 

[Caillou]

Idk how about you, but many men feel outright suicidal if they are losing their hair and don't shave it or use a hair system. I think it's time to take up some action, either shave it or get yourself a hair system. Also, if you are still in college, you can get yourself a degree and turn your life around

My hair isn't particularly the reason i'm suicidal

 

[Oknow]

My hair isn't particularly the reason i'm suicidal

it could be worse, you could be will smith right now

 

[Caillou]

it could be worse, you could be will smith right now

I don't think even someone who's as low quality as me could sink THAT low, so that's good ig

 

[300]

My hair isn't particularly the reason i'm suicidal

Then why don't you explain the reasons you feel like that.Your hair loss is not bad at all and you re a college student,When you graduate many doors will be open for you.So where is the problem?Maybe because i feel that you isolate yourself?Correct me if i am wrong.

 

[Caillou]

Then why don't you explain the reasons you feel like that.Your hair loss is not bad at all and you re a college student,When you graduate many doors will be open for you.So where is the problem?Maybe because i feel that you isolate yourself?Correct me if i am wrong.

Think of it like a domino effect. Bad parenting + being raised in a ghetto filled with thugs as a sensitive, exceptionally kind child led to brutal bullying for years, which led me to not be able mix with people well and have terrible social skills. Add to that a naturally shitty personality and bad genes and you have a recipe for disaster. Nobody wants me except my family, but I can't really blame anyone since I'd not want to be with me as well. I'm not blaming the world for not accepting me because it's just natural for things to be this way. People are not bad or evil, I simply was born to possess absolutely no value whatsoever

I'm not blaming myself for that though. I know made terrible mistakes, but I realize that my circumstances have destined me for failure no matter what I do. I actually think I have potential for being a good person, but I don't think it will be enough for people to overlook my objective lack of value

I think I will start hitting the gym tomorrow and do something with my time, might start looking for a job since I will graduate this year anyway. I know that this will never change anything though, but at least it might make me feel a little bit better and it's better than doing nothing

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

So basically you are back to square one where you were years ago. I thought you got better. So you decided to return to your old ways. Too bad!. I was routing for you all the way! I always will regardless.

i think he's just trolling

 

[Caillou]

i think he's just trolling

What would I gain by trolling like that

 

[Regan]

Don't kill yourself, dude.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Don't kill yourself, dude.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Don't kill yourself, dude.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Don't kill yourself, dude.

 

[disfiguredyoungman]

I'm not blaming myself for that though. I know made terrible mistakes, but I realize that my circumstances have destined me for failure no matter what I do. I actually think I have potential for being a good person, but I don't think it will be enough for people to overlook my objective lack of value

Not a bad approach. As Lenny said: Everyone guilty, no one to blame.
I think the mistake many people make, myself included, is assessing prematurely what 'they are destined for'. I don't want to drop plattitudes like 'it's all in your hands dude, just b urself!!', but us mortal men are certainly not even close to Laplace's Demon when it comes to predictions.

Maybe the universe is predetermined from an objective point of view, maybe not. But from a single man's subjective point of view, it's definetely not. People from the worst kind of backgrounds managed to do great, or at least turn their life completely arround at one point. Others grow up blissed, but piss it all away, or become victim to some horrible misfortune. Surely people from similiar backgrounds and capabilities stongly tend to live similiar lives, but it's really never set in stone.

Take my example: Only 17.5% of people who were in the situation I was in 2 years ago manage to temporarily get some kind of taxable job. The people I know who did, mostly do quite unskilled work and that only part-time. But I work not only full time, but also in a very qualified and specialized field nowadays, that's paid decently. I guess the chances for that could have been arround 5%. Stochastics only become a self-fulling prophecy, if you believe in them as if they were oracles and don't understand, that they just make probalistic and generalizing statements.

 

[Oknow]

Think of it like a domino effect. Bad parenting + being raised in a ghetto filled with thugs as a sensitive, exceptionally kind child led to brutal bullying for years, which led me to not be able mix with people well and have terrible social skills. Add to that a naturally shitty personality and bad genes and you have a recipe for disaster. Nobody wants me except my family, but I can't really blame anyone since I'd not want to be with me as well. I'm not blaming the world for not accepting me because it's just natural for things to be this way. People are not bad or evil, I simply was born to possess absolutely no value whatsoever

I'm not blaming myself for that though. I know made terrible mistakes, but I realize that my circumstances have destined me for failure no matter what I do. I actually think I have potential for being a good person, but I don't think it will be enough for people to overlook my objective lack of value

I think I will start hitting the gym tomorrow and do something with my time, might start looking for a job since I will graduate this year anyway. I know that this will never change anything though, but at least it might make me feel a little bit better and it's better than doing nothing

you should consider seeing a therapist , to help you deal with your issues

 

[DoctorHouse]

@Caillou, you can't deny the fact that people here who have never met you care about you. Obviously, you have made some impact in our lives. I know you trust me. I will miss you if you leave. You can't do that to me. And I know you feel somewhat better when you post and get people to respond. So at least you have something positive in your life. And for some you are actually an inspiration just in case they might think their situation is worse than yours. You can always come back and counter argue that your situation is the worst. I think you might really think about becoming a lawyer since you easily come up with such good counter arguments. And all your fans like Rudi, Afro, Fred, Blackg, and Exo would be devastated if they could not read another one of your posts.

 

[Regan]

Not a bad approach. As Lenny said: Everyone guilty, no one to blame.
I think the mistake many people make, myself included, is assessing prematurely what 'they are destined for'. I don't want to drop plattitudes like 'it's all in your hands dude, just b urself!!', but us mortal men are certainly not even close to Laplace's Demon when it comes to predictions.

Maybe the universe is predetermined from an objective point of view, maybe not. But from a single man's subjective point of view, it's definetely not. People from the worst kind of backgrounds managed to do great, or at least turn their life completely arround at one point. Others grow up blissed, but piss it all away, or become victim to some horrible misfortune. Surely people from similiar backgrounds and capabilities stongly tend to live similiar lives, but it's really never set in stone.

Take my example: Only 17.5% of people who were in the situation I was in 2 years ago manage to temporarily get some kind of taxable job. The people I know who did, mostly do quite unskilled work and that only part-time. But I work not only full time, but also in a very qualified and specialized field nowadays, that's paid decently. I guess the chances for that could have been arround 5%. Stochastics only become a self-fulling prophecy, if you believe in them as if they were oracles and don't understand, that they just make probalistic and generalizing statements.

Probably the chance is higher than 5% for people in your reference class who also understand Laplace's Demon

 

[disfiguredyoungman]

Probably the chance is higher than 5% for people in your reference class who also understand Laplace's Demon and compatibilism

True. But that's the point: Every person is a highly specific culmination of genetic, social, economic, historic etc. variables. And that within ever-changing environmental factors, that are even infinitely more complex.

Not a single researcher in the world possesses even a fraction of the data necessary to make infallible predictions about your individual fate. And more importantly no one ever tried. If you look at statistics, you are looking at an average. A gross generalization based on a mass of people, not individuals. The specific variables of these people might differ from you drastically in ways, you don't know and don't understand. Same applies even moreso ofc, if you just broscience it and make 'common sense' assumptions based on your naturally limited view.

And even if you factually only had a 1/200 chance of succeeding, in an implausible scenario, there's no point in refusing to roll the 200 sided dice telling yourself that it's impossible, because it's not.

 

[Caillou]

@Caillou, you can't deny the fact that people here who have never met you care about you. Obviously, you have made some impact in our lives. I know you trust me. I will miss you if you leave. You can't do that to me. And I know you feel somewhat better when you post and get people to respond. So at least you have something positive in your life. And for some you are actually an inspiration just in case they might think their situation is worse than yours. You can always come back and counter argue that your situation is the worst. I think you might really think about becoming a lawyer since you easily come up with such good counter arguments. And all your fans like Rudi, Afro, Fred, Blackg, and Exo would be devastated if they could not read another one of your posts.

Thanks bro, I really appreciate your (and the other users) genuine attempt at helping me. For now ig I need to severely work on my low self-esteem/self-confidence