Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[Xenithrising]

Just like Finasteride, as long as people understand this isnt a cure

 

[Pavi]

That's pretty good news. We now know why he doesn't have all the answers perfectly making sense. He says it's not his field and he doesn't really know. This accidental discovery could really help us!

 

[Abelibano]

Brotzu:

Good morning everyone. After listening to Ms Cella and Ms Manunza discussing what alopecia is, for me it is difficult to talk because I am a vascular surgeon who has always dealt with blood circulation and who came through this topic only by chance. I will now say why and how I encountered it.

We weren't looking for any publicity, as this is not our specialty.

I have to underline I am NOT treating alopecia. I do not know about its causes.

I act on the stick. I do not know who moves the stick and why. I just stop the stick.

I did nothing particular. I just moved something and found something else. I agree with what my dermatologist colleagues said before. We need to find the cause for the pathology. This can be a cure. However, to avoid flu, we get flu shot. Anti-flu drugs just help with the symptoms.
We have to tackle the base of the pathology. On this, I cannot say anything as I am a surgeon and this is not my field...

First of all thanks for this Roberto!

Although Im quite sceptical about his lotion, I have to admit. Brotzu you are an honest m*******ka and I personally congratulate you for this!!
That kind of talk should be done by every scientist and "doctor". Not the usual over-confident bullshit that 99.9% leads to NOWHERE.

The man told us how things really are.He found "BY CHANCE" something that could POTENTIALLY help hairloss, without even understanding its mechanism. He was not going for it, he probably didnt have any scam plans just to make some cash and drop out.

What Mr. Brotzu said it's in fact what applies today for hairloss. Even top-notch scientists and companies don't know jack sh*t about the actual mechanism that really causes hairloss.
Tsuji actually understood this and decided to go the way around, not to solve hairloss but to provide cosmetic improve for all of us (and still, I repeat this, not by solving hairloss problem but making people look constantly full of hair)

 

[worm]

First of all thanks for this Roberto!

Although Im quite sceptical about his lotion, I have to admit. Brotzu you are an honest m*******ka and I personally congratulate you for this!!
That kind of talk should be done by every scientist and "doctor". Not the usual over-confident bullshit that 99.9% leads to NOWHERE.

The man told us how things how really are.He found "BY CHANCE" something that could POTENTIALLY help hairloss, without even understanding its mechanism. He was not going for it, he probably didnt have any scam plans just to make some cash and drop out.

What Mr. Brotzu said it's in fact what applies today for hairloss. Even top-notch scientists and companies don't know jack sh*t about the actual mechanism that really causes hairloss.
Tsuji actually understood this and decided to go the way around, not to solve hairloss but to provide cosmetic improve for all of us (and still, I repeat this, not by solving hairloss problem but making people look constantly full of hair)

I wouldn't say that all doctors claim to know the mechanisms. For example no one knows conclusively how minoxidil works.

 

[barfacan]

Minoxidil and Finasteride were also both 'accidental' discoveries for Androgenetic Alopecia, in fact we still don't know exactly how or why minoxidil works!

 

[tzt]

Doesn't matter if they know how lotions works as far as it can heal my alopecia

 

[abcdefg]

When does this come out then? Sometime this month or next month they are going to talk about results or something or right?

 

[Beowulf]

We studied Prostaglandin PGE1, which is today in commerce for other pathologies. PGE1 favors the elasticity of capillaries, their permeability, and stimulates the multiplication of endothelial cells, improving vascularization

It probably regrows hair by proliferating endothelial cells, perhaps that's why we get the 'creeping forest' instead of the overnight growth when we do see hair regrowth.

But what came first, the DHT, or the oxidative stress?

In any case this lotion actually does sound promising. It could probably improve the results of Follica and Shiseido, in fact the three together would probably be a treatment.

 

[Beowulf]

When does this come out then? Sometime this month or next month they are going to talk about results or something or right?

Eeehh not exactly. Brotzu's giving a talk in about a week about basically the same stuff, and we're pretty sure he'll give us new information about how all the trials are coming along because that's basically the only new information he could possibly give us at this point.

 

[barfacan]

is he working with fidia? if not then why would he provide any information about the trials?

 

[Drogedagh]

is he working with fidia? if not then why would he provide any information about the trials?

He won't. He will only talk about AA.

 

[hidden]

brotzu will talk about AA trial that ends now, as for Androgenetic Alopecia, its conducted by fidia only and ends next month so news is expected next year...

 

[MrJolly16]

God bless Mr. Brotzu! I think he must be in touch with people working for Fidia, so he maybe will tell us about the improvements made by this company or his own impressions about the lotion. Let´s see...

What do we know about the Italian woman who is using the lotion? She always said something like: "be strong (courage!), it will be available soon".

Ps. I´ve seen the pictures of the little kids´hair and are pretty amazing, hope it works the same way for most of us.

 

[hairblues]

It probably regrows hair by proliferating endothelial cells, perhaps that's why we get the 'creeping forest' instead of the overnight growth when we do see hair regrowth.

But what came first, the DHT, or the oxidative stress?

In any case this lotion actually does sound promising. It could probably improve the results of Follica and Shiseido, in fact the three together would probably be a treatment.

Do you mind to explain what you mean with the endothelial cells and the 'creeping forest' and in relation to this article?

 

[Beowulf]

Do you mind to explain what you mean with the endothelial cells and the 'creeping forest' and in relation to this article?

It's an observation made by Westonci while he's been on the swisstemples regime. When people see hair regrowth it also always comes just in front of the hairline, so your hairlines slows creeps forward over time. If Brotzu's correct that the problem is that the hair follicles have run out of endothelial cells then it might be the case that by creating surpluses in your current hair follicles the cells would move to the surrounding areas to revitalise the dead follicles. Shiseido have a similar idea with their dermal papilla sheath cup injections.

 

[hairblues]

It's an observation made by Westonci while he's been on the swisstemples regime. When people see hair regrowth it also always comes just in front of the hairline, so your hairlines slows creeps forward over time. If Brotzu's correct that the problem is that the hair follicles have run out of endothelial cells then it might be the case that by creating surpluses in your current hair follicles the cells would move to the surrounding areas to revitalise the dead follicles. Shiseido have a similar idea with their dermal papilla sheath cup injections.

I have been using spironolactone which stopped my shed for most part and i see new hairs but they are not really cosmetically viable to make a difference--you think Brotzu thicken those up? If so would that not cause shedding? i never heard Beps mention shedding did you?

 

[That Guy]

Minoxidil and Finasteride were also both 'accidental' discoveries for Androgenetic Alopecia, in fact we still don't know exactly how or why minoxidil works!

This is actually a myth. In the 70s, a study was done on a group of males who all had a deficiency of 5-ar. It was noted that they had smaller prostates, no acne and did not develop male pattern baldness. Therefore, the idea was that if you could synthesize a drug that would inhibit this enzyme, you would be able to kill a few birds with one pill.

After much research, Finasteride was found to do this.

 

[barfacan]

Finasteride was developed for BPH

 

[spring15]

Just like Finasteride, as long as people understand this isnt a cure

How so? Those of us who are NW2 - NW3 this lotion supposedly maintains hair and has some regrowth, which would be a cure for many of us

 

[That Guy]

How so? Those of us who are NW2 - NW3 this lotion supposedly maintains hair and has some regrowth, which would be a cure for many of us

Because for some reason, most hair loss sufferers think that a "cure" is a magical potion that you use once, your hair starts growing back the next day and then you're good forever.

That's not the definition of a cure though and no disease is cured without some kind of procedure.

The fact is, a baldness cure involves being able to maintain existing hair as well as create new ones. It is extremely unlikely that any topical will ever achieve much more than maintenance — Cell-based therapies are the end game.