Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[nameless]

But you're wrong.... this is supposed to bind to DHT and prevent it from binding to scalp hair. This doesn't act on 5AR like finasteride

Alright, I my be wrong about how this new treatment negates DHT, but in the end what it does is negate DHT, which finasteride and dutasteride also already do.

1. When this new Italian treatment binds to DHT and prevents it from binding to scalp hair that solves the DHT problem, assuming it prevents DHT from binding to scalp hair.

2. When finasteride and dutasteride prevent the formation of DHT (from testosterone) they also solve the DHT problem.

When push comes to shove they all negate DHT. This new treatment negates DHT in a new way but finasteride and dutasteride already negate DHT. This new treatment solves the DHT problem that is already solved.

 

[nameless]

Do not respond to this ignorant twat.

You're talking to a guy who thinks men actually form relationships with emotionally damaged women because their alleged duty to protect and comfort women that society trains men specifically for compels them too and that men who seek relationships on this basis would just be acting like they're supposed to and not abusive men seeking to exploit self-esteem issues.

Do not waste your time.

I reported your above post to the moderators. You were advised repeatedly to cease that specific argument.

 

[br1]

Alright, I stand corrected about how this new treatment negates DHT, but in the end what it does is negate DHT, which finasteride and dutasteride also already do.

1. When this new Italian treatment binds to DHT and prevents it from binding to scalp hair that solves the DHT problem.

2. When finasteride and dutasteride prevent the formation of DHT (from testosterone) they also solve the DHT problem.

When push comes to shove they all negate DHT. The end result is the same. This new treatment negates DHT in a new way but finasteride and dutasteride already negate DHT. This new treatment solves the DHT problem that is already solved.

yes but you see, 5-ar does other things in the body. If this lotion could have the same benefits (hair) as finasteride, I would do the switch in no time. And I think A LOT of other ppl would do the same.

 

[Gone]

^What else does 5-alpha reductase do besides convert T to DHT?

 

[nameless]

yes but you see, 5-ar does other things in the body. If this lotion could have the same benefits (hair) as finasteride, I would do the switch in no time. And I think A LOT of other ppl would do the same.

The italian treatment theoretically may negate DHT without impacting on 5-AR, which could ameliorate any adverse affects caused by finasteride's and dutasteride's reduction of 5-AR, but that would not result in greater hair growth over what is already achieved by finasteride and dutasteride.

 

[Pavi]

The new treatment theoretically negates DHT without impacting on 5-AR so that could ameliorate any adverse affects caused by finasteride's and dutasteride's reduction of 5-AR, but that would not result in greater hair growth over what is already achieved by finasteride and dutasteride.

But that's still huge!? For those afraid of finasteride (me) this is huge

 

[nameless]

But that's still huge!? For those afraid of finasteride (me) this is huge

OK. I agree that if it prevents DHT from binding to follicles It could reduce unwanted side affects caused by full body 5-AR reduction from finasteride and dutasteride

But I don't expect it to improve hair growth over what's already available.

I hope it helps you by giving you the chance to use drugs similar to what's already available without the side effects.

 

[Massive]

But that's still huge!? For those afraid of finasteride (me) this is huge

I miss dat morning wood ... Or just random boners ... Or just being able to maintain that rock hard bonerar ...

 

[nameless]

I miss dat morning wood ... Or just random boners ... Or just being able to maintain that rock hard bonerar ...

I understand.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Do not respond to this ignorant twat.

You're talking to a guy who thinks men actually form relationships with emotionally damaged women because their alleged duty to protect and comfort women that society trains men specifically for compels them too and that men who seek relationships on this basis would just be acting like they're supposed to and not abusive men seeking to exploit self-esteem issues.

Do not waste your time.

Run-on sentence ;-)

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I've been very busy with life issues in the past few weeks. Have there been any developments in the past few weeks?

 

[Gone]

Nothing major, I've just been getting news from the new research forum though. Follicum and Histogen are moving along, that's pretty much it. Today we give thanks for the hair we have left. And then proceed with crying as scheduled

 

[WMQ]

Don't forget that I told you all so.

And I'm going to remind you that I called it correctly when it doesn't work on anybody here, or at least
doesn't work any better than what's already available.

As far as the evidence goes, I don't want to get too bogged down in this irrelevant product but basically it looks to me like it's kind of similar to what's already available.

1. If it works at all, it works in part by blocking the formation of DHT, which finasteride and dutasteride already do.

2, If it works at all, it works in part via postaglandin activity which minoxidil already does. Yes, I know that minoxidil works on a different postaglandin but the point is that they both mediate postaglandin activity and neither of them deal with PGD2. I don't think you can get maximum postaglandin benefit unless you also deal with PGD2.

I do not see this product as an improvement over what's already available. I'm not sure it works at all but if it
does work I predict it will be no better than what's already available.

When it proves to be no better than what's already available don't forget that I told you so.

Tell me when Dr. Tsuji's technology gets into human studies.

S-equol hits estrogen receptor beta with an 20% affinity in comparison to estradiol. That may or may not have an impact on hair growth. ER beta signal is protective to frontaltemporal follicles in balding male scalp.

^What else does 5-alpha reductase do besides convert T to DHT?

It is heavily involved in neurosteroid conversion. In short: 5ARi fxxk with your brain chemistry.

 

[That Guy]

I reported your above post to the moderators. You were advised repeatedly to cease that specific argument.

Go right the f*** ahead; they won't do anything and if they do, it really speaks volumes.

I could report farkhairloss or foucault til the cows waltzed on home and it didn't do anything. The Admin told he wants people to be able to say whatever they want (as long as it isn't bad things about S5) because he fears people will leave. You're in this thread doing nothing short of trolling

I've been very busy with life issues in the past few weeks. Have there been any developments in the past few weeks?

Brotzu held a conference in Turin showing that the lotion works for AA as he said it did.

 

[Pavi]

OK. And I agree with you on that one issue. It could reduce unwanted side affects due to full body 5-AR reduction from finasteride and dutasteride

But I don't expect it to improve hair growth over what's already available.

I hope it helps you by giving you the chance to use drugs similar to what's already available without the side effects.

So now you see why we are all excited for this... I respect that you have been civil with our discussion.

 

[Switzer]

Someone asked Brotzu if the lotion is also effective for male Androgenetic Alopecia. http://imgur.com/a/7yraD

Google translated the question and answer.

Socrate Ilfolle: Hello Brotzu, you have also had good feedback on male androgenetic alopecia? (I'm 25 years old and I suffer from when I was 18) because some say that since it works on a.a. Most likely it will not work for Androgenetic Alopecia. Thanks for any reply

Brotzu: We started to treat androgenetic alopecia, and we had good results, when we realized that we could treat the AA, we preferred to follow that road because it was also more attractive for possible pharmaceutical company, using for a long time (2 years) you can recover 5 years of lost hair.

 

[nameless]

Someone asked Brotzu if the lotion is also effective for male Androgenetic Alopecia. http://imgur.com/a/7yraD

Google translated the question and answer.

Socrate Ilfolle: Hello Brotzu, you have also had good feedback on male androgenetic alopecia? (I'm 25 years old and I suffer from when I was 18) because some say that since it works on a.a. Most likely it will not work for Androgenetic Alopecia. Thanks for any reply

Brotzu: We started to treat androgenetic alopecia, and we had good results, when we realized that we could treat the AA, we preferred to follow that road because it was also more attractive for possible pharmaceutical company, using for a long time (2 years) you can recover 5 years of lost hair.

Brotzu said his treatment is "good" for Androgenetic Alopecia. He didn't say his treatment is better than what's already available for Androgenetic Alopecia. I've seen people get "good" results with finasteride/dutasteride and minoxidil so it sounds like it's comparable to what's already available.

And Brotzu's said you "CAN' recover 5 years of lost hair; he did not say you WILL recover 5 years of lost hair. How would he even determine that? It sounds like he might be estimating and talking about his best responders. A lot of salesmen cherry-pick their best responders.

The only value I see to Brotzu's treatment is that if it works it would allow people to use it without the risk of side effects associated with finasteride/dutasteride. That'a a big benefit to the people who get side effects from finasteride/dutasteride. But don't expect it to improve results for the people who already take finasteride/dutasteride without side effects.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

1) rigorous news that this works for AA is wonderful. How well does it work? Does it cure AA?

2) This sounds like a topical finasteride+minoxidil+ wth fewer side effects. What's not to like? Why are you guys still complaining?

 

[nameless]

1) rigorous news that this works for AA is wonderful. How well does it work? Does it cure AA?

2) This sounds like a topical finasteride+minoxidil+ wth fewer side effects. What's not to like? Why are you guys still complaining?

I agree with your assessment that it looks like finasteride + minoxidil. That's what I've been saying.
I already take finasteride and minoxidil without side effects so this new treatment wouldn't benefit me at all.
But it could be a (big) benefit for the people who get side effects from finasteride + minoxidil.

 

[Sokubo]

1) rigorous news that this works for AA is wonderful. How well does it work? Does it cure AA?

2) This sounds like a topical finasteride+minoxidil+ wth fewer side effects. What's not to like? Why are you guys still complaining?

A lot of people find this too good to be true. I think it's a bit early to make judgment that way or any other given this hasn't even come out in earnest yet.