Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

tzt

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Like already said above maybe this lotion could be gold for diffuse thinners…
Luckily there is a good sample of each different patterns in the trial. Can't wait to see pics..

that what i think too. i'm difusse thinning and most of my hair are tiny and spiky and won't grow as fast as normal hair and still short. if this lotion can force these tiny hair to become a normal long thick hair it will be a huge deal for me.
 

Ikkaku

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Traitments always work better for diffuse. It's normal and logical !!
So yeah, It's a game changer for diffuse thinner !!
 

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we answered that several time but doesn't matter your're new member and won't read 197 pages.

1- this lotion sound promissing it can replace the BIG three (fine,minoxidil and keto) without side and normally have a better result.
2- use it once a day for 2-3 years until you reach the maximum hair recovery that you can't get with this lotion and then to maitain you can use it 2-3 time a week.

3- normally 2017 / the official trial finish in december so do not expect official data in 2016.

Would it replace the big 3 ? don’t be over optimistic, wait the results of the trial. Actually even if the lotion does show good results(let's say even "incredible" results) I doubt ppl will all drop their full regimen if they have good success on it. I mean that would be a big decision, psychologically too. Maybe drop finasteride if ppl have side effects. I don’t see me dropping minoxidil. Nizoral is very useful too,
 

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The best part about this lotion is its potential to be the perfect bridge between now (as we all know, time is not our friend) and a future treatment like tsuji in 5-10 years.

I've started getting finasteride sides recently (after 6 months in), so I've had to lower my dosage for now which has already helped. I started getting itchy/incredibly sensitive nipples and being a lean build I can't afford to grow a mad set of titties. Im also terrified about starting minxodil due to the initial shed but will hop on in a few weeks after accidentally ordering like 10 bottles of the sh*t online.

The selling point is the no sides which will give me the ultimate piece of mind when f*****g my girlfriend. Half of the time it could be in my head, but f*** sometimes having the performance anxiety is just as bad as the real thing. Not having that worry in the back of my mind will probably help my hair in return anyway.

I know all of this has been said before in this thread, but having a minoxidil and Finasteride in the same lotion applied once daily without sides should not be overlooked.
 

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Finasteride reduces DHT levels by ~60%.
Brotzu lotion makes DHT less effective.

So if you believe that dutasteride works better than finasteride, then you necessarily also believe that finasteride and brotzu will work better together than separately.

If DHT is made less effective on a systemic level, wouldn't that cause side effects? It seems highly unlikely that none of the S-equol will go systemic.
 

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If DHT is made less effective on a systemic level, wouldn't that cause side effects? It seems highly unlikely that none of the S-equol will go systemic.

There will be none of the side effects related to neurosteroids.

And we don't know what fraction of s-equol goes systemic.
 

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So, @beps63 what´s going to happen with those of us who have been using finas for a while? I´m almost 32 and still have a lot of hair, but I began with that in (September) 2010! The first years I improved a lot, but I have lost hair during this period... Will the lotion help me? What do you think?

Thank you very much!
 

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Beps is spreading this document. In Spain, Germany, France. We sign all. It 'too important to Brotzu. Leave us your email name. Force all together
 

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Time ago some guys had the idea to make a petition for RU to put it on the market but It's the first time I see an active petition for a treatment in trial. Sad that this petition is in italian though , this should have been in english to have more impact. But still good news for our fight; things are moving forward
 

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Why are there so many questions about individual cases lately??? Is it more effective than minoxidil? Will I benefit more if i also use finasteride? Can i fly if i use this lotion?

How could anybody know? There are only a few people in the whole world who had the luck to test this lotion and most of them can't share their experiance.

Time will tell.. All we can do now is speculate, which could lead to deceitful hope. Wait for the results of fidia then wait for the release of the lotion and then people will share their experiance
 

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Im pretty optimistic about this lotion based on anecdot

The only change I suspect this will have, is on Fidia's pricing. The more people who sign this, the higher the price! ;)

Seriously though, if this is as effective as propecia, and is effective for AA, it's a pretty safe bet they will generate $1B in revenues annually. I can assure you, they want to release it yesterday, 1000 people signing a petition asking them to skip protocol wont do sh*t!
 
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Pavi

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Im pretty optimistic about this lotion based on anecdot


The only change I suspect this will have, is on Fidia's pricing. The more people who sign this, the higher the price! ;)

Seriously though, if this is as effective as propecia, and is effective for AA, it's a pretty safe bet they will generate $1B in revenues annually. I can assure you, they want to release it yesterday, 1000 people signing a petition asking them to skip protocol wont do sh*t!

I disagree with your price comment. They don't need 1000 signatures to know the hair loss market. Any company that produces a treatment realizes that less than 10% of balding men seek treatment.... so why would they make this so expeenive? Their customer pool would decrease. You want to make this a relatively cheap product so more people are willing to purchase it and buy it. This product is one you want the quantity to be high and the price low since the demand is so high. We are talking about a hair loss treatment and not diamonds. With such a large demand you want your demand to be able to buy it
 

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I disagree with your price comment. They don't need 1000 signatures to know the hair loss market. Any company that produces a treatment realizes that less than 10% of balding men seek treatment.... so why would they make this so expeenive? Their customer pool would decrease. You want to make this a relatively cheap product so more people are willing to purchase it and buy it. This product is one you want the quantity to be high and the price low since the demand is so high. We are talking about a hair loss treatment and not diamonds. With such a large demand you want your demand to be able to buy it

you're misinterpreting a joke for me being serious. If you read on, this is a billion dollar product, they want to get it right. Therefore, I dont think a petition will have them overlook the time and steps required to deliver a reputable product.
 

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Yes, a random internet forum poster is totally more trustworthy than clinical/scientific studies.

What size is your tinfoil hat? :rolleyes:

signs-tinfoil-hats.jpg
 

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Someone asked Brotzu if the lotion is also effective for male Androgenetic Alopecia. http://imgur.com/a/7yraD

Google translated the question and answer.

Socrate Ilfolle: Hello Brotzu, you have also had good feedback on male androgenetic alopecia? (I'm 25 years old and I suffer from when I was 18) because some say that since it works on a.a. Most likely it will not work for Androgenetic Alopecia. Thanks for any reply

Brotzu: We started to treat androgenetic alopecia, and we had good results, when we realized that we could treat the AA, we preferred to follow that road because it was also more attractive for possible pharmaceutical company, using for a long time (2 years) you can recover 5 years of lost hair.

Dr. Brotzu's comment is very interesting, as it certainly refers to the effect of using his lotion during two-year by Beps63 . What hair had 5 years ago, if it had already been 10 years of remarkable hair loss?
Do you recognize beps63?

What I find a bit strange is that Dr. Brotzu comments so clearly, as he may have signed a confidentiality agreement with Fidia regarding androgenetic alopecia.
Also, it's a comment via wasap, how did you access it? Strange....
 
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