Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

[champpy]

If this works we would see it on front page news just as we did when the Yale team used tofab to treat AA. It was everywhere. This.... no media hype. I don't think that's good. Maybe its just to early for hype but im expecting the worst case scenario.

My other concern is they are formulating this to be sold as a cosmetic and not a drug by substituting ingredients. Last time a company did that was with Follicept. They prepared their formula to be sold as a cosmetic and it ended up doing nothing at all.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

If this works we would see it on front page news just as we did when the Yale team used tofab to treat AA. It was everywhere. This.... no media hype. I don't think that's good. Maybe its just to early for hype but im expecting the worst case scenario.

My other concern is they are formulating this to be sold as a cosmetic and not a drug by substituting ingredients. Last time a company did that was with Follicept. They prepared their formula to be sold as a cosmetic and it ended up doing nothing at all.

They aren't substituting ingredients. DGLA is a biochemical precursor to PGE1. You still end up with PGE1.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

The big 4

This has the potential to be the big 1.

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If this works we would see it on front page news just as we did when the Yale team used tofab to treat AA. It was everywhere. This.... no media hype. I don't think that's good. Maybe its just to early for hype but im expecting the worst case scenario.

My other concern is they are formulating this to be sold as a cosmetic and not a drug by substituting ingredients. Last time a company did that was with Follicept. They prepared their formula to be sold as a cosmetic and it ended up doing nothing at all.

Of course something from Yale is going to get more hype in the USA.

I work in science, I can tell you American universities are much better at hyping ****. If you pay attention to your facebook news feed you might notice that AIDS, cancer, and Alzheimers' are typically "cured" once a month. Yet people still suffer.

If this product works, but it's coming from Europe, it's very plausible that North Americans won't realize it for years. It'll just be something on the counter next to Nizoral and hair fibers and all that ****, if even that. Be thankful. The best outcome for you is a world where you have a cure and other people still go bald.

 

[JLC]

My opinion for the reason the media hasn't jumped on this is there are no official before and after photos that show hair regrowth.
But I am still suprised there hasn't been more media coverage outside Italy and Hairloss blogs.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

My opinion for the reason the media hasn't jumped on this is there are no official before and after photos that show hair regrowth.
But I am still suprised there hasn't been more media coverage outside Italy and Hairloss blogs.

The media will assume, subconsciously, that this product is a scam. It's coming out of Italy.

 

[Follisket]

Reading stuff like this makes me wonder how Fidia intends to acquire large amounts of s-equol for commercial production:
http://www.asm.org/index.php/journa...-compound-that-can-relieve-menopause-symptoms

If s-equol is so hard to come by, how come both Fidia and Brotzu are treating it like more of an afterthought?
Or is it really just a matter of oral vs topical use?

 

[rlf]

Reading stuff like this makes me wonder how Fidia intends to acquire large amounts of s-equol for commercial production:
http://www.asm.org/index.php/journa...-compound-that-can-relieve-menopause-symptoms

If s-equol is so hard to come by, how come both Fidia and Brotzu are treating it like more of an afterthought?
Or is it really just a matter of oral vs topical use?

But there was even a supplement containing S-Equol.

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interac...nt-based-on-S-Equol/page56?highlight=Follexen

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

From what I recall, and I'm not 100% sure of it, the problem with oral supplements of equol is that they end up in the toilet. The body does not absorb it that way.

 

[rlf]

What I ment was the S-Equol is apparently not that hard to come by.

 

[Xaser94]

When is this crap coming out already?

Sometime in 2017 according to Fidia. We dont know if its early 2017, mdid 2017, or late 2017 unfortunately.

 

[pegasus2]

Is this the one that's basically just a lotion of dead stem cells from foreskin? I don't see how rubbing dead cells on your head is going to grow hair.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

Is this the one that's basically just a lotion of dead stem cells from foreskin? I don't see how rubbing dead cells on your head is going to grow hair.

No. That's Kelopesia.

 

[NeedHair101]

Dr. Angela Christiano interview - JAK inhibitors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6C0-wiNlZU

Dr. Angela Christiano interview (December 2015) State of JAK inhibitors and hair loss

Hope this is also the cure for baldness and that topical lotion come out soon

 

[pegasus2]

No. That's Kelopesia.

Ok, thanks. In reading up on this one it looks like it will have some effect, but it's simply an alternative to current treatments, not an improvement.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

Ok, thanks. In reading up on this one it looks like it will have some effect, but it's simply an alternative to current treatments, not an improvement.

Then it would seem you didn't read the thread at all.

 

[pegasus2]

Then it would seem you didn't read the thread at all.

No, I didn't read people's overly optimistic opinions. I read what's in it, and that's all I need to know. How many other "miracles" have come and gone that didn't do jack? A year ago seti was going to cure as all, before that it was bimatoprost. Before that it was Follicept. Lastly it was SM and PGE2.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

No, I didn't read people's overly optimistic opinions. I read what's in it, and that's all I need to know. How many other "miracles" have come and gone that didn't do jack? A year ago seti was going to cure as all, before that it was bimatoprost. Before that it was Follicept. Lastly it was SM and PGE2.

Bimatoprost actually worked in the clinical trial, but they're doing another trial to figure out the dose.
SM0454 also worked in a clinical trial, they get ~10% regrowth after a meager 3 months, but it's not available.
Seti's trial is starting this year. They're using a different protocol than anybody buying seti from Kane.
CB0301 was recently trialled in a proof of concept study. It works. However, lab tests on this forum suggest Kane's CB may not be pure (I didn't fully read that thread).

What are you complaining about?

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

No, I didn't read people's overly optimistic opinions. I read what's in it, and that's all I need to know. How many other "miracles" have come and gone that didn't do jack? A year ago seti was going to cure as all, before that it was bimatoprost. Before that it was Follicept. Lastly it was SM and PGE2.

It would also appear that you didn't read what's in it. If you did, you would have seen that it includes s-equol. S-equol's method of action is entirely different than any current treatments and lacks any 5-ar2 inhibition. It contains many other things that I've already explained as well. I'd also like to point out how funny it is when people use failed treatments as a reason to discredit new ones. That's gotta be some kind of logical fallacy, right? And the "overly optimistic opinions" were claims made by the inventor. You're entitled to your own expectations though.

 

[pegasus2]

It would also appear that you didn't read what's in it. If you did, you would have seen that it includes s-equol. S-equol's method of action is entirely different than any current treatments and lacks any 5-ar2 inhibition. It contains many other things that I've already explained as well. I'd also like to point out how funny it is when people use failed treatments as a reason to discredit new ones. That's gotta be some kind of logical fallacy, right? And the "overly optimistic opinions" were claims made by the inventor. You're entitled to your own expectations though.

I know all that. I didn't say it was the same as current treatments, only that it won't give better results. Why should I care about this if it's not going to give better results than what we already have?

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Bimatoprost actually worked in the clinical trial, but they're doing another trial to figure out the dose.
SM0454 also worked in a clinical trial, they get ~10% regrowth after a meager 3 months, but it's not available.
Seti's trial is starting this year. They're using a different protocol than anybody buying seti from Kane.
CB0301 was recently trialled in a proof of concept study. It works. However, lab tests on this forum suggest Kane's CB may not be pure (I didn't fully read that thread).

What are you complaining about?

Bim worked about the same as minoxidil, which makes it useless considering we already have minoxidil.
SM did not even work as well as minoxidil, and appears to be dead now.
Seti we will have to wait and see, but I doubt it will outperform finasteride, and no one has had success with it yet. I'm sure some of the people who have tried it have gotten the real deal, and used it correctly.
CB is one I'm looking forward to. It's not going to work better than currently available treatments, but it should maintain hair indefinitely with limited side effects.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

I didn't say it was the same as current treatments, only that it won't give better results.

Could you use that crystal ball of yours to tell us when there will be a treatment that actually does cure hair loss? And the inventor claimed it can restore 5 years of hair loss depending on current follicle condition. Is that not an improvement? Or did your crystal ball inform you that that claim was false?