Italian Hair Loss Lotion To Hit The Market In 2016

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shookwun said:
I will take my chances then.

Five years strong.

Full head of hair

Beat the genetics odds. Starting experiencing hair loss at 16, currently 26.
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Same here man, been on this for 13y, but if something better comes up to be again at 100% DHT full of semen, and keep my hair, i'll take it
And i bet you'll do the same
 
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BaldyBalderBald said:
Same hear man, been on this for 13y, but if something better comes up to be again at 100% DHT full of semen, and keep my hair, i'll take it
And i bet you'll do the same
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well, took me close to 6k grafts, and 24,000 CAD in the hole.

Worth it though! My life has substantially been better at the cost of a minor financial set back.
 
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shookwun said:
Didn't know moobs were a pre-requisite to maintaining hair while on finasteride.




Didn't know aside from the pseudo - ED almost everyone experiences that finasteride was to blame.


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Mother of god...awesome...(ironic). I suppose you will not be defending a drug like Finasteride...
 
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dermrafok said:
Mother of god...awesome...(ironic). I suppose you will not be defending a drug like Finasteride...
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wot
 
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I just remembered, that almost exactly year ago the petition for brotzu lotion release popped up. A lot of people here were pissed off, that they wanted release before the end of 2017 and not 2016. Something tells me, that we will be lucky if it comes out before the end of 2018. What scares me the most is, that I slowly lose hope in an actual release.
 
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Janko said:
I just remembered, that almost exactly year ago the petition for brotzu lotion release popped up. A lot of people here were pissed off, that they wanted release before the end of 2017 and not 2016. Something tells me, that we will be lucky if it comes out before the end of 2018. What scares me the most is, that I slowly lose hope in an actual release.
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No worries, we still have tranny drugs.
 
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Janko said:
I just remembered, that almost exactly year ago the petition for brotzu lotion release popped up. A lot of people here were pissed off, that they wanted release before the end of 2017 and not 2016. Something tells me, that we will be lucky if it comes out before the end of 2018. What scares me the most is, that I slowly lose hope in an actual release.
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I dont want to be too optimistic, but we will definetly get it before the end of 2018 if it works. It has already been stated that the trials would continue up until the end of 2017 so the chances of it coming this year are next to none imho. If it works and they decide to go ahead and launch it, then 2018 is a perfectly reasonable target imho.
 
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actually, i think that the bright side of the wait is that it makes it more likely that the product will work.

why? it's simple. they invested big money on the patent and the research/development. if they knew it doesn't work, why wait? they'd just release it and start monetizing asap, and it'll be just another useless cosmetic product that uninformed/desperate people will buy anyway

they apparently had issues with degradation over time, so why even bother solving that if it didn't work? it makes sense to take the time and make it perfect only if they know it'll actually be so good that will beat the crap out of minoxidil/fina/duta.
 
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verne2k said:
actually, i think that the bright side of the wait is that it makes it more likely that the product will work.

why? it's simple. they invested big money on the patent and the research/development. if they knew it doesn't work, why wait? they'd just release it and start monetizing asap, and it'll be just another useless cosmetic product that uninformed/desperate people will buy anyway

they apparently had issues with degradation over time, so why even bother solving that if it didn't work? it makes sense to take the time and make it perfect only if they know it'll actually be so good that will beat the crap out of minoxidil/fina/duta.
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Makes sense or they just want more investor money before they fail completely.
 
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Patent update - "Examination started"

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=EP193696280

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Thank you always for the useful inputs you are giving to the thread @Switzer .
Maybe I can add something:

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(Definitions from the EPO official resources)

https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/caselaw/2016/e/clr_iv_b_2_1.htm

The fulfilment of the second condition for the refund of the examination fee according to Art. 10b(b) RFees, gave rise to the questions of what "substantive examination" was and what kind of act or acts amounted to the beginning of "substantive examination". The board noted that to ensure predictability and verifiability of the application of Art. 10b(b) RFees, the beginning of "substantive examination" had to be interpreted as requiring a concrete and verifiable act of the examining division as regards "substantive examination" after having assumed responsibility for the examination of the application (J 25/10). The board held that if a communication of a particular examining division was to be legally valid, it had to have been written on behalf of and represent the views of the members who had been appointed to that division to examine the issues forming the subject of the communication.
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Ok, so giving this, I understand that the patent seems not to have European validation yet; a special commission is now proceeding to grant it, as of now. This commission should be composed of expert in the fields of the applicant's patent.
I didn't know procedures were so long.

But I found another resource from EPO which gives a positive "vibe" in my opinion:

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This says that way before this "substantial examination" starts, a letter/communication is sent to the applicant. With the new laws, if the applicant withdraws before the examination starts, is refunded 100% of all costs. Now, since this examination started, it means that FIDIA did not withdraw :)
 
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The 7TH Sense said:
Thank you always for the useful inputs you are giving to the thread @Switzer .
Maybe I can add something:

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(Definitions from the EPO official resources)

https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/caselaw/2016/e/clr_iv_b_2_1.htm



Ok, so giving this, I understand that the patent seems not to have European validation yet; a special commission is now proceeding to grant it, as of now. This commission should be composed of expert in the fields of the applicant's patent.
I didn't know procedures were so long.

But I found another resource from EPO which gives a positive "vibe" in my opinion:

View attachment 66867

This says that way before this "substantial examination" starts, a letter/communication is sent to the applicant. With the new laws, if the applicant withdraws before the examination starts, is refunded 100% of all costs. Now, since this examination started, it means that FIDIA did not withdraw :)
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So basically they're still on track for 2021?
 
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The 7TH Sense said:
Thank you always for the useful inputs you are giving to the thread @Switzer .
Maybe I can add something:

View attachment 66866

(Definitions from the EPO official resources)

https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/html/caselaw/2016/e/clr_iv_b_2_1.htm



Ok, so giving this, I understand that the patent seems not to have European validation yet; a special commission is now proceeding to grant it, as of now. This commission should be composed of expert in the fields of the applicant's patent.
I didn't know procedures were so long.

But I found another resource from EPO which gives a positive "vibe" in my opinion:

View attachment 66867

This says that way before this "substantial examination" starts, a letter/communication is sent to the applicant. With the new laws, if the applicant withdraws before the examination starts, is refunded 100% of all costs. Now, since this examination started, it means that FIDIA did not withdraw :)
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how much time does this examination take ffs bureocratic bullshit
 
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Seriously how long does patent examination take?

Jonnyyy said:
Terrible meme
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It's all over facebook, I agree it's overused. The dude is Chad though.

On a different note: Doesn't this mean that development is finished since they are seeking further approval on updated patent?
 
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CharAblaze said:
Seriously how long does patent examination take?


It's all over facebook, I agree it's overused. The dude is Chad though.

On a different note: Doesn't this mean that development is finished since they are seeking further approval on updated patent?
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Yeah that is what I thought as well...
 
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