Just Came Back From A High School Reunion

[SBAmerican]

Definitely sucks having to see someone from the past that remembers you as someone with good hair. Sucks even worse when said person ridicules you jokingly.

 

[I.D WALKER]

It's possible.

So A.G.A. as we know it, is genetically predetermined and can strike any age without much warning.
Can we say with certainty that prolonged stress ignited the fuse ahead of schedule
or the catalyst that get's the bald rolling sooner?
It's a reasonable view our OP makes, unfortunately even if we were to remove general stressors from the
equation we would still have no idea of the exact date when the baldness was going to strike in the first strike.
Nonetheless it would be helpful to gain more insight on this topic and it's potential utility in the
area of healthy preventative approach(es) might be exciting.

 

[tellersquill]

The positives if the theory is right (and we only have an increase in hair transplants, and hair loss drugs to go by - and maybe anecdotal evidence) is three fold:

1. The more people it effects early on the more it will become a little more accepted
2. It wont be so bad if it is happening to more people around you
3. With a higher demand for a hair loss cure there will be more research and thus a greater chance of a cure.

 

[I.D WALKER]

3. With a higher demand for a hair loss cure there will be more research and thus a greater chance of a cure.

If you are saying, ^ 'Were there more young women afflicted with Androgenetic Alopecia in 'developed countries',
hair loss research would advance in revolutionary strides'", many of us would say,"You're damn right'!

 

[tellersquill]

You just may see an increase in female baldness given diets and stress levels.

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

Does anyone else think balding is on the increase?

I see tons of young men with it.

I think its because people with the male pattern baldness gene go bald sooner because of their stressful lives and poor diets (it just speeds up the process so they are visiby balding in their twenties and not their thirties)

It might just be that you notice it more now that it affects you aswell.

 

[EvilLocks]

You just may see an increase in female baldness given diets and stress levels.

Please, diets and stress don't make you bald. Genetics is the answer - the only answer. How else would you explain the fact that some people have the worst lifestyle ever; drink, do drugs, smoke, eat junk food all day long, stress and are sleep deprived - but never lose hair? And then there is people like me, who do everything "right" and live a very healthy lifestyle - but go bald. Go figure.

 

[tellersquill]

I think stress and general poor health help exasperate male pattern baldness.

They've found links with physical and mental stress with hair loss so it does play a factor. It could be the difference between being a NW2.5 at 30 or a NW4.

 

[EvilLocks]

I think stress and general poor health help exasperate male pattern baldness.

They've found links with physical and mental stress with hair loss so it does play a factor. It could be the difference between being a NW2.5 at 30 or a NW4.

Fine, keep believing that if it makes you feel better. I do believe that stress and diets can be a factor in the onset of Telogen Effluvium (reversible hair loss where the hair follicle is not permanently damaged), but not in permanent hair loss like Androgenetic Alopecia. Stress will not permanently damage your follicles, there is no real evidence of this. What decides your Norwood at a certain age is genetics. How fast your hair loss will progress is dependant on your genetics. If you have links to any real studies that support your claim that stress plays a key factor in baldness, I'd be happy to see it.

 

[tellersquill]

Here is one example of a group case study: http://europepmc.org/abstract/med/9676515

If your a student you get the whole article free by logging in via your institution.

Stress will certainly help speed along hair loss, as well as diet and sleep and a few other things. This is mostly common sense but I can link articles on hair loss and general poor health, operations and a few other things.

Remember, I'm not denying the genetic aspect. Hell, that's the most important bit. What the research tells us is that lifestyle can speed up or slow down the process if it had already begun/

 

[cocohot]

Fine, keep believing that if it makes you feel better. I do believe that stress and diets can be a factor in the onset of Telogen Effluvium (reversible hair loss where the hair follicle is not permanently damaged), but not in permanent hair loss like Androgenetic Alopecia. Stress will not permanently damage your follicles, there is no real evidence of this. What decides your Norwood at a certain age is genetics. How fast your hair loss will progress is dependant on your genetics. If you have links to any real studies that support your claim that stress plays a key factor in baldness, I'd be happy to see it.

It's proven that stress makes every disease progress faster. I saw a study before that said that people with diagnosed anxiety have way shorter life spans. In the UK I have noticed a lot of young women with quite pronounced receding hairlines and I see 2-3 young women with Androgenetic Alopecia on my daily commute.

Having said that, any young woman having Androgenetic Alopecia is so extreme it has to be 90% genetic imo. Like smoking, stress is just a risk factor in my opinion. Plenty of people who don't smoke get lung cancer and plenty of smokers never get cancer. Just increases the risk.

Does anyone think there will ever really be a cure for hairloss like hair cloning, just thinking about it is so exciting. Even if it came when I'm 40 it would make me so happy, I'd pay a fortune for it.

 

[EvilLocks]

Here is one example of a group case study: http://europepmc.org/abstract/med/9676515

As far as I can tell this study doesn't say anything about what kind of hair loss they're talking about, just "25 women who had experienced recent, unexplained hair loss with that of 25 women with no hair loss." There are many types of hair loss, including telogen effluvium. This study doesn't say anything about wether the women are suffering from Androgenetic Alopecia or not, which is what I was interested in. "Recent, unexplained hair loss" doesn't sound like Androgenetic Alopecia either, as it is typically a slowly progressing condition and not "recent, unexplained hair loss".

 

[EvilLocks]

I saw a study before that said that people with diagnosed anxiety have way shorter life spans.

I'll meet my grave early then...

 

[cocohot]

I'll meet my grave early then...

If there's ever a cure at least 50% of my anxieties will melt away, baldness is the catalyst that puts me in a a negative frame of mind makes me see the negative side of everything imo. I've never been diagnosed with anything but I would be committed to a lunatic asylum if I put myself forward lol.

 

[tellersquill]

Its like the fat person who because they are sad and then they get sad because they are fat

 

[Dante92]

Its like the fat person who because they are sad and then they get sad because they are fat

 

[kj6723]

Sorry gotta vent. Just came back from my 10 year high school reunion at a bar and feeling like crap.

Only ONE guy there out of 40 to 50 was higher than a NW2 (he shaved his head and grew a huge beard). This is late thirties mind you.

Meanwhile I'm there completely hairless having to explain to everyone where all my hair went. Thank god I put on some fake eyebrows so I looked somewhat human once again.

I could tell people didn't like my new look though - all I got were looks of confusion and disgust. Baby face + bald = not a good combo. I had few drinks then left early.

Dude, 10 year reunion but people were in their late 30's? That would mean your class graduated in their late 20's

 

[kj6723]

I have my 10 year HS reunion coming up next summer. It actually played a role in me scheduling my transplant about 6 months sooner than originally planned

 

[FootyStar]

Dude, 10 year reunion but people were in their late 30's? That would mean your class graduated in their late 20's

Sorry that's I what I meant - late twenties (I would have edited it but my account won't let me).

I have my 10 year HS reunion coming up next summer. It actually played a role in me scheduling my hair transplant about 6 months sooner than originally planned

That's a good idea. If you don't mind me asking, what Norwood are you now?

 

[kj6723]

Sorry that's I what I meant - late twenties (I would have edited it but my account won't let me).



That's a good idea. If you don't mind me asking, what Norwood are you now?

I see. I was wondering if you went to some special school or something lol

I'm NW2.5ish