Just Went Out And I Feel Like sh*t

[kj6723]

Those are guys who work out everyday for several hours a day.

It's part of their job.

I don't know why you think it's so unobtainable. Myself and others I know have achieved similar physiques while working full time jobs, students, etc...without steroids or any kind of PED's. It takes a significant commitment of free time, but it's doable

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I don't know why you think it's so unobtainable. Myself and others I know have achieved similar physiques while working full time jobs, students, etc...without steroids or any kind of PED's. It takes a significant commitment of free time, but it's doable

I'm confident in saying that you do not have a physique anything like the world's best fighters.

You're clearly misevaluating.

 

[constrictedvoid]

Women are WAY, WAY, WAY more shallow and picky than men. That is a fact.

Depends which men, I suppose. Male models have almost equal value to average females in the dating world, and may therefore have similar pickiness. If you take a 5/10 female and a 5/10 male, I predict the male will be less picky, because his options are far more limited. This seems to apply more in first world countries, though. I've run tinder experiments of various kinda. One thing I can conclude is that first world women do really hate on baldness, but that latin American women for instance will barely care.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

This beard thing is a temporary fashion and not a long-term solution for anybody.

 

[constrictedvoid]

Depends which men, I suppose. Male models have almost equal value to average females in the dating world, and may therefore have similar pickiness. If you take a 5/10 female and a 5/10 male, I predict the male will be less picky, because his options are far more limited. This seems to apply more in first world countries, though. I've run tinder experiments of various kinda. One thing I can conclude is that first world women do really hate on baldness, but that latin American women for instance will barely care.

kinds*

 

[Dante92]

Depends which men, I suppose. Male models have almost equal value to average females in the dating world, and may therefore have similar pickiness.

Yes. Moreover, the average woman/girl is as picky as a male model would be. I don't even mention good-looking women.

 

[kj6723]

I'm confident in saying that you do not have a physique anything like the world's best fighters.

You're clearly misevaluating.

Lol you're telling me you've never seen anyone who's a non-professional athlete with any kind of significant muscle mass? I've known people WAY bigger than GSP who work full time jobs, and only work out on their own time(some of them may have been on gear, but still).

A lot of actors build these greek-god type physiques for movie roles within the span of a few months...you're doubting that after over 10 years of being fascinated with fitness it's possible I've figured out a thing or two about getting my body looking right?

Don't fixate so much on the fighter thing. Even GSP has said that he strength trains for...just his looks! http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/12/...rges-st-pierre-i-dont-believe-in-strength-and
Even for him strength training is like a side hobby on top of his full time job.

Look at another one of the top pound for pound all time greats

He looks fit, but his physique isn't noteworthy in the slightest. You don't have to have the greek god build to succeed in MMA

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Go out, and watch what women do, who they go out with.

The most desirable women tend to be disproportionately with men of high social status, tall men, and/or strong men. As those three factors are very correlated, they are difficult to disentangle.

Also of note is that many, many women (beautiful, plain, ugly, etc) tend to be with men who kind of look like them. If you have 4 couples sitting at a table, and you scramble the seats, you can probably figure out who is dating who by seeing who could convincingly be each other's sibling. I play this game regularly and it almost always works.

People also date within the same socioeconomic class range, the same age range, and the same intelligence range, all with a relatively small standard deviation.

I have not noticed hair as mattering with very beautiful women. I suspect it might matter a little aesthetically, but many women want a full-headed man as a status symbol. I don't have enough information on hand to prove it though. A bald boyfriend is not so much that they're compromising, but that they're perceived to be compromising.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Lol you're telling me you've never seen anyone who's a non-professional athlete with any kind of significant muscle mass? I've known people WAY bigger than GSP who work full time jobs, and only work out on their own time(some of them may have been on gear, but still).

A lot of actors build these greek-god type physiques for movie roles within the span of a few months...you're doubting that after over 10 years of being fascinated with fitness it's possible I've figured out a thing or two about getting my body looking right?

Don't fixate so much on the fighter thing. Even GSP has said that he strength trains for...just his looks! http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/12/...rges-st-pierre-i-dont-believe-in-strength-and
Even for him strength training is like a side hobby on top of his full time job.

Look at another one of the top pound for pound all time greats

He looks fit, but his physique isn't noteworthy in the slightest. You don't have to have the greek god build to succeed in MMA

His physique is noteworthy.

He's not cut, but he's probably incredibly strong. There is more to fitness than mass/volume of muscle. Those guys also have speed, reaction time, balance, flexibility, hand-eye coordination, body rhythm, etc. It's not immediately obvious looking at them, but I suspect women evaluating them as sexual partners probably notice little details you might miss, particularly when they can see those guys in motion.

Anyway, I did a google search and I found the information for light heavyweight Jon Jones:

His 1-rep max on the bench press is ~345 lbs, which is ~70% higher than his body weight. There are very, very few men out there who can bench ~1.70x their body weight, probably less than 1%.

You might know of men who can bench ~2.70x their body weight, but those men will have less in all the other categories than Jon Jones does.

If your fitness program is only focused on mass and volume of muscles, you don't have a good fitness program. Stabilizers, flexibility, balance, speed, endurance, cardiovascular, etc are all critical.

A heavier deadlift by itself won't make you better at skiing.

 

[xetudor]

Women and muscles. Boring as f***.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Women and muscles. Boring as f***.

Anytime you want you are free to raise your own interesting points.

That, or you can say nothing substantial, and then sit by and criticize others for not entertaining you.

 

[xetudor]

Anytime you want you are free to raise your own interesting points.

That, or you can say nothing substantial, and then sit by and criticize others for not entertaining you.

These talks about muscles and women get old really fast. Muscles are like beauty in young women anyway, they will not last your lifetime and you can't count on them for a healthy long term relationship. You want a woman that likes you for who you are, not what you want to be.

And for casual sex, I don't think your skiing and dead lift abilities will matter that much to the girl.

 

[I.D WALKER]

David I ONCE bench pressed 345lbs (2X my rate ATT). If you are curious for a more detailed and personal account then you'll have to patiently
wait until my memos reach their final publication. So far I am playing around with the manuscript title. 'Accidental Transfusions of an Occidental Retiring Dipsomaniac'.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

These talks about muscles and women get old really fast. Muscles are like beauty in young women anyway, they will not last your lifetime and you can't count on them for a healthy long term relationship. You want a woman that likes you for who you are, not what you want to be.

And for casual sex, I don't think your skiing and dead lift abilities will matter that much to the girl.

You're a shallow guy -- you think people only do sports for women. They do it for fun. And lots of people do sports into their 60s and 70s.

I never skied until I was 30 because I grew up in poverty, but when it happened, it was glorious. I did it for myself not to pick up chicks. People don't go to the Italian Alps to pick up chicks, if that was the case they would go to the nearby cities. When I went, there were people in their 60s and 70s skiing there too.

Which is something you apparently don't understand, which is why you dismiss it as boring.

As for chicks liking you for you or me for me, don't assume that women are a different species from men. The fact is women who are ambitious and stay healthy will more easily attract men than women who are slothful and let themselves go.

 

[xetudor]

You're a shallow guy -- you think people only do sports for women. They do it for fun. And lots of people do sports into their 60s and 70s.

I always said the only reason you should do sports is for yourself. Always be truthful to yourself, if you really enjoy sports and get women who like those sports then it's great. But spending time at the gym just to impress women is simply not a great strategy.

 

[I.D WALKER]

If we had instead only more positive prognosis' here, we could all skip the damning evaluative exam formalities for good.

 

[EvilLocks]

I think guys who work out and take care of their bodies is a plus, but not a requirement (as long as they're not fat). But you don't need to look like the Hulk to appear attractive to girls, at least in my opinion. I prefer a nice, toned body on a man, but that's just me. There is definitely such a thing as too much muscle on a guy.

 

[kj6723]

His physique is noteworthy.

He's not cut, but he's probably incredibly strong. There is more to fitness than mass/volume of muscle. Those guys also have speed, reaction time, balance, flexibility, hand-eye coordination, body rhythm, etc. It's not immediately obvious looking at them, but I suspect women evaluating them as sexual partners probably notice little details you might miss, particularly when they can see those guys in motion.

Anyway, I did a google search and I found the information for light heavyweight Jon Jones:

His 1-rep max on the bench press is ~345 lbs, which is ~70% higher than his body weight. There are very, very few men out there who can bench ~1.70x their body weight, probably less than 1%.

You might know of men who can bench ~2.70x their body weight, but those men will have less in all the other categories than Jon Jones does.

If your fitness program is only focused on mass and volume of muscles, you don't have a good fitness program. Stabilizers, flexibility, balance, speed, endurance, cardiovascular, etc are all critical.

A heavier deadlift by itself won't make you better at skiing.

That is NOT a noteworthy physique. You could walk down the beach and see countless men built like that(that sounds really gay...no homo lol). That's the point I'm trying to make, being a super athlete doesn't translate to having the aesthetic that is currently most sexually appealing in modern culture.

Also, if you've followed Jones' story, you'd know he got into the heavy powerlifting stuff during the time of his suspension, which was AFTER his success in the sport.

I do plenty more than heavy lifting...I never do 1 rep max's. Also can't do dead lifts, and rarely do squats, since the army f*cked up my back. I incorporate plenty of interval training, pylometrics type stuff, circuit training etc in addition to lifting...but I STILL manage to orient much of it towards improving my physique. Also looking to get back into muay thai/boxing soon.

And to those of you on here hating on exercise and physical fitness, go f*ck yourselves. I'm sure there are things you're interested in that I would find stupid

 

[N003]

This forum is worse than a women forum. So many pussys here ! Incredible!!!!

The Woman are so different, you can't put all girl in a basket.


No woman wants a man which is more beautiful than she!!! That's the worst situation ever for a woman.

I told in a other thread that i have many friends who are bald but still have a girlfriend.

Yes, it's true the chance for a bald men to get a plastic b**ch is nearly 0.
But the most woman are normal.

There are much more exigences to find a girl.

 

[N003]

So? Of course it's easy to get a girlfriend.

But all you're saying here doesn't matter at all.

What matters is: you don't want to be the bald guy.

True! No guy want to be bald that is true.
Me too


no one wants to get cancer, heart attack etc....
But when I read the posts here i'm not sure if the bald is the problem or just the girls.


yes bald/Balding is sh*t but there are solutions for this problem finasterid and if someone has problem with finasterid then take a hair transplant.

There are so good solution possible today:

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