More Childless Men: Women Do Not Want Children With Low-status Men

[CopeForLife]

Man, I'm envious of:
Your GF
Your job (you like it, good pay, and can take two months of unpaid holidays)
Your height
Your dick
Your smile
Your race
Your voice
Your mother tongue
Your youth

Highlighted red as 100% genetical, blue as gains based on genetics and left black as achievements

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white tall male from 1-st world country

 

[CaptainForehead]

white tall male from 1-st world country

I would love, love LOVE to be a white tall male with killer smile from 1-st world country

 

[Saurabhaj]

Well said, Saurabhaj.

I hope the other person understand what i want to say by this beautiful video.
Thank you BlackG.

 

[CopeForLife]

I would love, love LOVE to be a white tall male with killer smile from 1-st world country

not for us

 

[CopeForLife]

I don't understand?

just sadness that we can't be tall white males with huge dicks from 1st world country

 

[CaptainForehead]

just sadness that we can't be tall white males with huge dicks from 1st world country

Maybe in next life

 

[RegenWaiting]

No she isn't, that means she pretty conventional in bed too.

That doesn't mean she's boring in bed though.

Most guys would say that the perfect female would be one that he could bend to his will.

Now I think that's a mistake, especially since that was the power dynamic with my ex and look how that turned out.

Most of the time our actions turn out wrong by default if pursued with insincere motivation.
Therefore, although a partner you can bend to your will ''abides'' most of the time, maybe even believes it
themselves, it's never really their true self. The odds are, they will despise you in time...
I know this somewhat contradicts the altruistic philosophy, but the motivation and intention
imo are paramount and always the beginning and the culprit in a morale wronging.

PS. About the traveling; I have been to many and even lived in different countries(random life path-challenging), but I have never had this
longing for traveling. Actually nothing with travel attracts me and I have always longed for a stable, quiet and safe life
with a strong family. Always imagined I'd use my time off work for at custom-built cottage house by the sea and re-visit at every chance and maintain it. I can surely say that creating and assuring these circumstances(generally) is my key life goal.

I do understand the appeal though, it's not that.

Great to hear about your promotion! Put your DNA in the ''oven'' already and you're set

 

[Exodus2011]

Man, I'm envious of:
Your GF
Your job (you like it, good pay, and can take two months of unpaid holidays)
Your height
Your dick
Your smile
Your race
Your voice
Your mother tongue
Your youth

Wait mother tongue?

And yea believe it or not but this problem crops up in my chad fantasies, how id make people insecure and jealous 0_0

 

[CaptainForehead]

Wait mother tongue?

And yea believe it or not but this problem crops up in my chad fantasies, how id make people insecure and jealous 0_0

Yeah, French. Ladies love French.

What problem are you talking about?

 

[Exodus2011]

Yeah, French. Ladies love French.

What problem are you talking about?

Oh ok

And if you were too perfect you would make people insecure, jealous and sometimes even hateful 0_0

 

[buckthorn]

Your friends are betabux. Women don't actually love them, but they stay with them for resources and to cope and forget about their past when they fucked +100 genetically superior guys. They usually get fat, refuse sex (always tired lol), have shitty attitude because they're f*****g miserable. They don't believe that a genetically inferior scum is worthy of a good, sexy wife. So, you friends are probably living in hell because of this, simply married a prostitute. They just have to wait now until their wives divorce them and take all of their money and everything they have.

My friends are successful, good looking men that make a lot of money and are actually quite "alpha" in the day to day world. Their wives are good people as well. I grew up with all of them, the husbands and the wives. So, you're jumping to conclusions. This gets back to my previous point that monogamy is NOT natural. We are FORCING ourselves to live with each other and spend as much time as possible with each other and on TOP of that, we have unnatural jobs that prevent us from living our unnatural marriages. None of this is debatable. I know people like Fred want to debate the hell out if with the common nonsense, "but we evolved a more intelligent mind" crap. Well, we did which means we are stupid as f*** to force our biological instincts into roles we never even evolved into.

 

[buckthorn]

What are your alternatives to monogamy and work?

I didn't say i had any man. I just say it's smart to recognize that A LOT of our daily lives is NOT natural in terms of evolution and biological instincts. You can't argue that dude, it's basic facts. Why do SO many people in relationships cheat? get divorced? Why are so many people who work desk jobs under flourescent lighting miserable? I know some of us HAVE to do these things, but if we do then We need to take this into account when evaluating our lives and ways to make ourselves truly happy.

 

[Baldingat188]

I would love, love LOVE to be a white tall male with killer smile from 1-st world country

Hell yea nothing in the world would be better then being chad. I would prefer to be chad then have Millions of dollars . Plot twist - it has nothing to do with banging girls, at least not for me. Just to be happy in social interactions.

I am white in a first world country but I'm super socially awkward , short , balding and unattractive. I think unattractive guys have problems outside of dating on the social scene. I literally do not have one friend at this point in my life ATM and it's really getting to me . I feel so isolated.

 

[buckthorn]

I didn't say i had any man. I just say it's smart to recognize that A LOT of our daily lives is NOT natural in terms of evolution and biological instincts. You can't argue that dude, it's basic facts. Why do SO many people in relationships cheat? get divorced? Why are so many people who work desk jobs under flourescent lighting miserable? I know some of us HAVE to do these things, but if we do then We need to take this into account when evaluating our lives and ways to make ourselves truly happy.

once again, I am NOT saying you shouldn't work or get married. haha. I admire some people that get married because they are way stronger than I am. I also admire people that work horribly boring desk jobs and are STILL happy. It's a beautiful thing. I am just saying that it's smart to recognize that these things are very difficult obstacles and adjust your life and mindset accordingly.

 

[blackg]

My friends are successful, good looking men that make a lot of money and are actually quite "alpha" in the day to day world. Their wives are good people as well. I grew up with all of them, the husbands and the wives. So, you're jumping to conclusions. This gets back to my previous point that monogamy is NOT natural. We are FORCING ourselves to live with each other and spend as much time as possible with each other and on TOP of that, we have unnatural jobs that prevent us from living our unnatural marriages. None of this is debatable. I know people like Fred want to debate the hell out if with the common nonsense, "but we evolved a more intelligent mind" crap. Well, we did which means we are stupid as f*** to force our biological instincts into roles we never even evolved into.

Well said, buck, and welcome back.

 

[buckthorn]

Well said, buck, and welcome back.

I came back because the people on here, especially people like you, are kind and informative. This really is a good place, hair loss aside.

 

[blackg]

Because they haven't truly asked themselves what they wanted in life.

Because they have little to no standards.

Because they haven't oriented themselves properly in the world.

Because they're just wandering aimlessly without and ideal to climb towards and a hell to run away from.

Because they're just hoping that everything will come together by mere chance, that they'll reach fulfillment and happiness by accident.

Because they're not willing to identify the areas in which they're insufficient and are unwilling to work on themselves.

Because they're willfully blinding themselves to the myriad of problems that are around them or they're not taking steps to solve them.

If you cheat or hate your job, the right question is: how did I end up in this position?

Am I unable to tell my partner / employer what I want?

And if they can't provide what I want (because I have f*****g standards), why am I unable to get the hell away from them and find someone who will?

But first you have to define what you want, or rather what you think you want, you can refine the goal with time, practice and experience. You should at least have a first draft of what you truly want in life and then aim single-handedly at that.

Why are my girlfriend and I cheating on each other? Why are we barely thinking about it (harder for me, true, but at least I'm aware that there's a risk that I could do it)? Of course only time will tell if we're on the right path.

Why do I love my job? Why do I love my colleagues? I'm not kidding myself here, I believe that with all my heart. It's because I'm truly getting what I want from it and this isn't that easy to figure out. A lot of people look at my situation and will tell me: "You deserve better Bear!" because my job doesn't seem that prestigious and complex from the outside.

And to that I replied many times: "I know what I'm doing and I'm exactly where I want to be in my life right now." I truly believe that.

So, what do you want out of life @buckthorn ?

Who's to say that the ideals that you identify with are indeed the right ideals?

We are all individuals and some individuals are just not meant for marriage and children, or even this world as we see it.

Life on the sidelines can be way more fulfilling, for some, then the dreary and predictable cradle to the grave drone of school, marriage, children..... then the infirmary.

Exciting stuff.
Long live hedonism, I say.

 

[blackg]

If you think long-term relationships, marriage and raising children are predictable endeavors, you clearly have no idea of what you're talking about. Like you could predict what I've been through? And make no mistake, I'm not blind or arrogant enough to think that my life tragedies are rare.

But my parents raised to the challenge and in the end, I can safely say that they succeeded at raising me. I admire them for that, and they admire me for sorting myself out in extremely harsh circumstances.

I could play the same game with the pursuit of hedonism, what usually (always?) happens to people who put all their chips on short-term impulsive pleasures? They crash and burn because they constantly have to increase the dosage to get the same dopaminergic response.

Then comes the depression, the anxiety, perhaps the panic attacks all wrapped into a major existential crisis. And that is not trivial, so I think it's a bit irresponsible to say something like "long live hedonism" without thinking it through.

As if once you had taken the responsibilities of getting educated, getting married and having children, your life was only that and there won't be any room left to travel the world, enjoy your hobbies and whatever hedonistic pleasure you want to engage in.

Of course it isn't the case, that's why I was baffled by @buckthorn saying that at least this year, he traveled, learned an instrument, had cool experiences etc. and that it wouldn't have been possible if he had a girlfriend. Bullshit, I have a girlfriend, a social life, I work 40 hours a week in big corporation and yet I still managed to travel a lot, play my instrument and have great experiences.

To me it's just laziness combined with resentment against people who manage to make it work. So based on my own experience in the past year, what I'd say to people to you and buck is: aim high guys! You don't know what you're capable of until you try.

Edit: inb4 @CopeForLife chimes in, first make sure that you're tall, white and that you have a big dick. If you don't tick those boxes, follow this link.

I swear you are wise beyond your years sometimes, Fred.
The crash and burn you speak of (once hedonistic pleasure has run its course) is very, very real.
But damn it was fun!!
All of it, not just the apogee but the crash too.
An existential crisis is one of the biggest rushes you can experience, especially with alcohol.

Where will I get my next dopamine fix!!!????

Anyway, look... I appreciate the fact that this marriage and kids course of action is for you, but seriously... It's not for everyone.

Great post, though.

 

[buckthorn]

So, what do you want out of life @buckthorn ?

Honestly, just inner peace.

 

[blackg]

Honestly, just inner peace.

And a date with @Pasbrillantebrunette.