People I hate

[s.a.f]

That's fine and I understand but what I'm saying is that the core motivation for your transplants and HPMs lifts (etc.) are essentially the same.... conformity. After your grafts grew in to the point where you no longer looked bald anymore, you must have felt strange.... like you were still a bald man in a different body or something, right?

If you get obbsessed about something to the point of undergoing surgery, I dont think the insecurity ever goes away. The hair transplant's took well over 3 yrs for the results to come in so I had time to get used to it. You do kind of forget about being bald but they say hair transplant patients are never satisfied they always want more hair. But you're right in a way I dont feel like a normal person with hair would, because I know that mine is a hair transplant not regular hair.

 

[s.a.f]

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Here the 3" heels dont do anything to take away the fact that Prince is tiny, do you honestly think that if he did LL he'd look like anything other than a small guy even if his head was the same level as Mariah's?

 

[HairPieceMan]

well i don't see how it took so long for CCS to fix his problems. :dunno:

I mean even if i did one height surgery - which only takes 6 months- to make me 5 6.5 i would be settled with 5 6.5 and a full head of hair, and simply move on, seems like a reasonable life to lead!

at least at that height i can wear a 1 inch lift, which is more better than the 3 inch one, then i can look like a regular person, which is all I wanted!

also on the pics why don't you look at the tom cruise pic i showed you, what's your opinion on that picture!

i can show you pictures of guys who have done 4 inches on MMT forum, they are freakin tall, guys that go from 5 8 to 6 0, they totally look tall, they stand next to the doctor post sugery and end up taller than them when they were pre-surgery!

 

[s.a.f]

But you are closer in size to Prince than Tom.
Tom is making himself look taller but he is not really that small a guy in the first place so adding a few extra inches is easier to disguise. Like a 6'1" guy in 3" lifts would'nt look barely any different but a 5'1" guy in them would look obvious.

 

[s.a.f]

well i don't see how it took so long for CCS to fix his problems. :dunno:

CCS never fixed his problems because he was just like you in his mindset - obbsessed! Normal people dont focus on their flaws to such a degree that they feel they need to alter them in order to fit into what they think is normal society. You sound exactly like CCS seeing your flaws as something that makes you unable to be be normal, and the belief that changing yourself physicly will make you a 'normal' person.

 

[HairPieceMan]

im in between prince and tom, im basicaly nicholas skarkozy height.

tom is 5 6 (barefoot)
nicholas skarkozy is 5 4
prince is 5 2

im about 5 4.

also skarkozy is seen in public 24/7 in hidden stilletos, he is always photographed with them, do a google image search on him, like literally EVERY pic, every video the guy is in lifts, he has been watched by millions of people live on sky news etc in 3 inch hidden stilletos, he IS a small guy, as in small build, but he still looks like he's 5 7 in his magic shoes.

it works for him with millions of people watching him at press conferences, it works for me in a bar, we have the same build, we are the same guy.

don't make me post lots of pictures of him in his 3 inch lifts!

please drop the subject of height enhancement lifts + surgery and give it up!

just accept that it works and I will likely do it, and even lifts work.

also on ccs problems, but we have already discussed that my problems WERE real, NOT imagined, + i don't see how he coulnd't have fixed his problems, no one has told me what EXACTLY they were and how he fixed them, if you want to fix them, you need to find out what they are and do them, then move on.

also i don't get your logic of when i've fixed my problem i wont be happy, you assume that i will never fix my problem, or ill come up with other ones, or when im 39 ill get a wrinkle in my eye and live as a recluse or due, or due to my insecurities of height/hair I have destroyed my self worth and would be better off walking around like a 5 4 golum type character in the bar and pretend that all is well and that im not a freak but a regular guy and that people treat other people the same and all that fairy tale stuff!

 

[SheSawMyCombover]

HPM feel free to post pictures of Sarkozy as long as old Carla is in tow. :woot: unk:

 

[s.a.f]

Yeah time will tell... I just dont see this life transformation happening for youb I've yet to see anyone on here with the kind of massive insecurities you have turning their lives around. And you and CCS are about the worst cases we've had on here.

As for Sarcozy (and Tom) why is it then that even though he wears lifts that supposedly bring him up to normal height everybody still jokes about how small he is? Whilst they dont make jokes about other 5'7" politicians, or 5'(" actors?

 

[HairPieceMan]

yes but, CCS didnt have REAL problems, your comparing my attitude to CCS, that MIGHT be true, attitude wise, but unlike CCS (and UCman agrees) my problems are ACTUALLY real and are worthy of being looked into and being fixed.

people joke becuase they know he is in lifts ad he's actually 5 5, he's probably the number 1 guy that is in lifts ALL THE TIME

and the reality is that he is STILL small with lifts, he is like me in that even in lifts he barely makes 5 7

so he is made fun of becuase everyone knows he's boosting himself up to short, it's hilarious.

here's a great picture of him with his 5 10 wife, she is in flats, he is in shoe, look at him he looks great with her when in lfifts

you can't tell me he looks obviously 3 inches shorter than he appears.

[quote="uncomfortable man":3mox40r0]@ SAF, I know HPM has a bit of CCS in him but I think you are being a little hard on the guy. Surely you can remember how being bald made you feel. I would think that on some level you can relate to his desire to blend in and look normal, considering your own transplants.

Exactly I've been there and I'm telling him not to pin his hopes on this. Like CCS he thinks he can transform himself but I've never seen ot happen baldness and short height are too big a problem to overcome.
If he thinks he's going to 'fix' himself I think he will end up dissapointed. I'm just trying to make him aware of this although I have no doubt he'll think I'm wrong.
Stuff like this leaves a bigger impact on you subconciously and this is something he'll have to deal with.[/quote:3mox40r0]

also the problem is you claim im going to be "dissapointed" with fixing hair/height.

I already said I am happy with my hair fix, i am HAPPY to have a full head of hair for the rest of my life, and i have zero issues with wearing a hair system.

so i fixed the problem, and moved on.

50% of my problem solved!

also my height, 1000s of men have fixed their height and have left extremely happy with the result, they are now taller, they move on with their lives and are happy.

I fail to see how 10,000s of people that are wearing hair systems, or have fixed height problems and have come away happy with the result and benefit that they have brought to their life, are able to do this yet for some reason i am percieved to not be able to fix these problem or when i do ill create new ones or im like super senstiive to "minor" things like baldness and being as tall as girls and as soon as i get a minor flaw in late 30s i will hide away from society later on in life.

i also do not like the opinion of that this stuff is phycologically damaging, i dont see why girls are ok to improve their image and they get a thumbs up,i mean at the end of the day you got multiple hair transplants it's like the same thing/idea as my hairloss solution.

so as far as im concerned there is nothing you and I have done differently in that we have fixed our hairloss problem and are happy (ok i am happy with my hair but maybe you are not im not sure)

but the fact that i have a second problem should not be taken lightly, or shoulnd't change the situation any less or make my actions invalid, its just twice the hardship I guess.

 

[LooseItAll]

ahh ffs becuase IM NOT MEXICAN or some sh*t, im caucasian, your just not getting the logic here!

yes but, SHORT asians are asian, christ this is soo retarded, HE is living in a region which does not match his average ethnic height, when will you understand there is a difference between a caucasian man being born 5 inches below the male average of his peers/ethnic group and an indian man being born average indian height yet living in an enviroment where he does not originate.

if you see a 5 2 indian in US you think "well, he's indian which makes sense, i guess if he moved back to india he'd blend in", if you saw a 5 2 caucasian man in US you'd think "holy f*ck that guy is totally f***ed, this is hilarious he's like a kid, he's going to have to move to mexico so that he blends in"...honestly man, its not the same advice, claiming i wont take my own advice is a stupid thing to say, im not moving to mexico,india or indonisia, becuase im not of that origin.

what im saying is it's a different story for a 5 4 caucasian man to be born in UK and then move to indonesia so that he'd be only 2 inches below the male average instead of 5 inches below the male average, versus say a 5 4 asian man being born in uk then moving to hong kong so he is only 2 inches below the male average.

one of those scenarios is a rare anomoly and is a genetic shame for the caucasian man, the other is a typical example of the type of man an indian/asian he would turn out to be.

so the question of Why won't you do it? You give advices to others yet you can't follow them on your own it utter rubbish, i don't do it becuase its not the same advice, it's completely different, i shouldn't need to move to peru ffs, but a 5 4 asian will fit a lot better if he moved to hong kong instead of being in uk, this at least makes sense.

lol @ older styles, yes i would agree that 22 year olds have other hairstyles versus 12 year olds, but isn't it intersted how fully bald is NOT one of those styles, come on man, quite the BS, you'll almost never see a 12 year old white kid with no hair and have it be normal, and when that kid is 22 a similar rule applys, im not saying its the SAME impact, but its clearly the underiable choice, versus say 12 year old black kids.

The fact is regardless of race not many people choose being slick bald by choice, they perefer to have a hairline?

really, then why do ALL white 12 year olds 100% avoid slick baldness and some black kids are completely bald through choice and no one blinks an eye?

all im saying is that white caucasians TEND to have baldness the worst, over blacks then indians, asian then caucausian.

that is just in general, please don't treat black and whites the same when it comes to baldness, in general, it's a bigger problem for whites, im not saying it was a ZERO problem for blacks, i do realise i said that at the start of the thread, which i apologise for saying that, but i would say its a far lesser problem in general compared to whites.

also grass is greener on other side? im not asking for a lot, i just wish I started balding when i was 25 & shaved clean bald at 28, instead of balding at 19 and shaving clean bald at 22, and also i wish i was say 2.5 inches taller making me 5 7 instead of 5' 4.5"

becuase at least with these two things i could have lived a regular life that most adult men lead until their 25 or something.

Erm so you're just basically saying that just because someone is asian it doesn't matter that he was born let's say in UK he was raised by UK standard in the UK culture he should have no problem moving to a totally foreign culture just because he is asian. :shakehead: f*** family, f*** friends, f*** cultural attachment it is only race that matters. Well in that case there are caucasian countires where the average is a little lower and you might just feel comfortable enough.

Here in Poland we have many Vietnamese, yes they are short and I never ever considered them to have it less screwed being short and an ethnic minority.
The fact is when people want to tease you and belittle they will not look at you and think "oh wait you are asian so you can be short".. you will just be called a shortass gook instead of shorty.

I am ending this topic.

Now I do know what s.a.f is talking about. While I agree that you have real physical flaws that and since they are fixable you should go for it I kinda agree with saf on the part that it will probably not enhance your life by much.

You see there are many short and bald guys that get along just fine. They have friends and some of them even have had girlfriends.

If you were one of those guys that tried dating but got rejected all the time, have an acceptable social life then boosting your physical appearence would probably be very beneficial. But since you are a shu guy that just doesnt know how to approach girls and make friends then it will probably stay the same.

I mean I am not short and I wasn't bald at that time but still I was unable to become accepted socially. I was always the class weirdo. I had a hair transplant and am NW1 ATM(still quite thin tho) and still socially I have not moved up a tiny bit. But the thing is I knew it will not make me a playboy or get me any new friends. I just wanted to have hair like most of my relatives.

Lifts and wigs are for people like Cruise and Sarkozy, people that are not afraid and can endure the ridicule when pople find out their secrets. Seeng as you can't be confident enough to try live a normal life as the current you I doubt you will be able to carry this huge burden. You will probably still be too afraid to ask a girl out and be obsessed about your little secrets not coming to daylight.

And yes you are obsessed...

 

[HairPieceMan]

im not saying that asians should just up and leave to that they are not short, im saying that in the context of where they are they would be more benficial (particularly in dating life) to go to china where they are

1. not short but average (assuming there 5 6)

2. are welcome more warmly by most of the female population.

that is all im saying, its up to him to make that choice, all im saying is that i am very short caucasian man, and the advice of moving for me is not the same as an asian man, becuase if i moved to mexico the affect woulnd't be the same, its not the same idea if you get me.

what im saying is that - in genenal- its MORE normal for an asian to be 5 6 or 5 4 than a caucasian to be 5 6 or 5 4, this is all im saying, and i have no reason to be this short.

im not saying that short bald guys don't get girls, but it sure as hell is a big upwards struggle, thats A LOT of genetic traits to make up for.

lifts are only for famouse people?

oh great, thats sounds perfect, i guess the 10,000s of customers that wear them should just throw them out becuase it's only for celebrities, thanks for letting us know we can't use them!

also pickup artists use lifts as well, neil strauss wore 2 inch lifts to the clubs in L.A., same as bono from U2, but wait, how could he do that, according to some guy on a hairloss forum your not alllowed to wear lifts unless your the president of france or you play in the biggest rock band on the planet.


oh and now this guy is saying you can only wear hair if your famous, thanks for your enlightened opinion on the subject of wearing hair, i guess all us wearers have made a big mistake, what next, you cant get transplants unless your famous?

honestly what crazy logic is this?

also not enhance my life that much? that is a retarded statement i will go from 5 4 and bald (looking like golum) to being 5 8-5 11 (4 inch LL + 3 inch lift if i so choose to wear it) with a full head of hair (making me look like a normal guy)

ill go from sticking out like a sore thumb to looking like a regular cool guy.

that's a massive improvement!

edit: oh right your saying becuase im not "confident" with my height/hair problem that it will ultimately be my downfall or something.

i mean how can you even tell hwo confident i am, i mean approaching a certain type of girl and being bald and looking bad bald is usually a sign of a lack of social inteligence more than anything, their is a difference between confidence and stupidity.

also on the height thing, yeah i wear lifts, lots of guys wear lifts, so neil strauss was ok to wear lifts but i am not, becuase your making a judement call on my "confidence" based on the fact that i am bald and look bad bald and want to have hair so im wearing a hair system.

overall everything im doing is making sense to me, im perfectly SECURE in the knowledge that i do not look good bald, especially not to get the girls that i want to get, i dont even look OK bald, since i cannot genetically grow my hair im wearing a system...seems perfectly logical to me!

the only problem with that logic is that it is seen as, unmanly, typically it would be a female trait to seek a way to improve apperance and now its seen as insecure for a man.

i really wish we could see past this "zomg your made yourself look normal with hair so your insecure about being bald" male mentality nonsense.

honestly having hair via hair system is not much less "insecure" than a guy who is loosing his hair slowly and is on finasteride, its the same idea, so are finasteride users "insecure" now becuase if they have been on it for a year they should probably be bald by now!

 

[LooseItAll]

OMG... I didn't write wigs and lifts are only for famous people. They are for people that are not afraid of others knowing they are wearing them. Tom Cruise and Sarkozy are not wearing their lifts to fool anyone. They wear them to look better.

Same goes for your PUA Neil Straus

The same goes for LL surgery. The admin of that site you gave a link is a successful businessman that wanted to improve his height and thus his life a little bit.

You on the other hand are hoping to GET a life by doing so that is why you are setting yourself for a failure because that is not the real reason you don't have a social life. You can be successful being 5'4" and bald. I do understand that it is more difficult and rare to be super confident being a guy with you physical traits but still not every short and bald guy is so bitter and hates the world.


NOPE I am not making a judgement because of your future plans of undergoing LL and wearing lifts but because of your lack of social life and hatred towards the world.

 

[HairPieceMan]

okok, look i do not HATE the world, i don't literally hate people taller than me or that have kept their hair in 20s, it's more a semi-joke than anything, liek think that larry david video when he is mocking the transplant people and such, its like that kind of attitude lol

but anyway..

fine, i wear lifts to look better then, there you go, now i can wear lifts and its "ok".

and neil strauss did a lot of things anyway for his baldnes, he drench himself in tan, changed dress code to match his height enhancing boots etc.

that guy did plenty of compensating/tweaking to make himself more presentable, im doing the same thing it's just the other way around as lift technology is better now so i can wear normal jeans and i do not like the bald look it doesnt work for me + id have to live in a tanning salon becuase im way paler than he is(before he started tanning), so thus im wearing a system etc.

yeah the admin of the site got 3 inch LL when he was 37, he was 5 8 though and even the doctor told him before he got the LL that he wasn't even short and that he didn't need the height increase as this operation is mainly for men who are actually short like 5 6 or 5 4 or 5 2 etc. (if you don't beleive me read his book),

I'm 5 4.5 (164 cms) and it is a little different, you cant compare every LL patients life...a few people on the forum are 5 2 and feel they have almost no hope for getting a girl, and i can feel their pain!

ill be the height of the admin of that forum after TWO full LL sugeries.

ok so i can be succesful being half an inch above the female average and bald looking like golum, ok, thanks for the encouragement and that boost in confidence, but, can you imagine, what would it be like if i had hair to make me look more normal? and for height was instead of being 5 4.5 - a low short- it is a low medium height for a man say 5 8/5 8.5

isn't THAT worth persuing?

NONONO IT ISNT YOUR JUST INSCURE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING HALF AN INCH ABOVE THE FEMALE AVERAGE AND LOOKING LIKE GOLUM IN THE CLUBS IF THEY DON'T LIKE YOU THEY IS SHALLOW!!!!

confidence only goes soo far mate, you can't literally push away MASSIVE physical problems with confidence alone, especially if your starting out!

 

[LooseItAll]

okok, look i do not HATE the world, i don't literally hate people taller than me or that have kept their hair in 20s, it's more a semi-joke than anything, liek think that larry david video when he is mocking the transplant people and such, its like that kind of attitude lol

but anyway..

fine, i wear lifts to look better then, there you go, now i can wear lifts and its "ok".

and neil strauss did a lot of things anyway for his baldnes, he drench himself in tan, changed dress code to match his height enhancing boots etc.

that guy did plenty of compensating/tweaking to make himself more presentable, im doing the same thing it's just the other way around as lift technology is better now so i can wear normal jeans and i do not like the bald look it doesnt work for me + id have to live in a tanning salon becuase im way paler than he is(before he started tanning), so thus im wearing a system etc.

yeah the admin of the site got 3 inch LL when he was 37, he was 5 8 though and even the doctor told him before he got the LL that he wasn't even short and that he didn't need the height increase as this operation is mainly for men who are actually short like 5 6 or 5 4 or 5 2 etc. (if you don't beleive me read his book),

I'm 5 4.5 (164 cms) and it is a little different, you cant compare every LL patients life...a few people on the forum are 5 2 and feel they have almost no hope for getting a girl, and i can feel their pain!

ill be the height of the admin of that forum after TWO full LL sugeries.

ok so i can be succesful being half an inch above the female average and bald looking like golum, ok, thanks for the encouragement and that boost in confidence, but, can you imagine, what would it be like if i had hair to make me look more normal? and for height was instead of being 5 4.5 - a low short- it is a low medium height for a man say 5 8/5 8.5

isn't THAT worth persuing?

NONONO IT ISNT YOUR JUST INSCURE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING HALF AN INCH ABOVE THE FEMALE AVERAGE AND LOOKING LIKE GOLUM IN THE CLUBS IF THEY DON'T LIKE YOU THEY IS SHALLOW!!!!

confidence only goes soo far mate, you can't literally push away MASSIVE physical problems with confidence alone, especially if your starting out!

Neil Straus did a lot of things and he is also not afraid to admit it "signing" it with his face with before and after pictures. Can you tell the same about yourself? He also tried living a normal life before his transformation, he had the courage just not the image. You have neither of those traits. If you had you would be living a decent life right now.

Again LL surgery and transplants are diffrenet from wigs and lifts. A successful transplant will be unnoticable it grows you can style it and the hair regenerate themselves. You don't have to worry about a girl running her fingers through your hair.

I know that I am not mentally prepare to wear a wig and that the pressure and stigma would turn me into a bigger wreck. If you can't handle living a normal life as the guy you are right now, how will you handle living as a guy with fake hair? I just don't see it yet I still encourage you to try it yourself.

What will happen when you will have to take off your shoes or your hair system will get destroyed and you will have to wait for another delivery? How will you explain your sudden loss of hair? Or maybe you will shelter yourself from the world waiting two weeks(skipping job) until your new piece arrives.

This can be just too much for a person such as yourself.

Yes it is difficult but did you ask yourself why are you just starting out at 25 years of age? That's because you are extremely unsecure which further proves my point.

 

[HairPieceMan]

yes i am not afraid, i have been open about my hairpiece, how do you think i went from bald to full head of hair?

transplants are different from hair systems?

you dont have to worry about x with hair systems, what are you talking about hair systems have no issues for me, worry about girls running fingers through hair, all that is fine, its a f*****g SYSTEM, 100,000s of girls wear f*****g systems, their bf run their fingers through hair, and they have to order in other systems, this is a retarded subject.

neil strauss also took off lifts, i will take off lifts.

you seem to claim to know me, and say i can't do what neil strauss did becuase i lack the mentality to pull it off, well you DON'T know me, and how do you assume these things like i don't have the mentality to pull of lifts like neil strauss, or hair systems (neil also wore hair in the game then turned up the next day without the hair piece), also im no sure why neil stopped wearing the hairpiece, maybe the attacehments methods were not good enough then, there good enough now so i intened to use them.

so stop claiming to knwo me and claim "yeah HE did but YOU can't", such the biggest sh*t I have ever heard!

 

[HairPieceMan]

in either case he appears to be comfortable wearing them in public 24/7 with millions of people seeing his "rod shoved up his arse" look , that includes being in front of the president of the united states and other big politicians (who aren't in lifts).

so with that being said i am comfortable to, and perfectly in every right to mentaly cope with the situation as he is what with millions of people watching him, and as are 10,000s of other regular men in lifts.

but yeah i don't like the way tom cruise's height fluxuates, i think if your gonna go the full way with hidden stilletos then you should stay in them at all times.

at the end of the day people will know, and you just have to let them know your in lifts, especially when you shoot up 3 inches taller the next day!

 

[cantholdmedown]

in either case he appears to be comfortable wearing them in public 24/7 with millions of people seeing his "rod shoved up his arse" look , that includes being in front of the president of the united states and other big politicians (who aren't in lifts).

so with that being said i am comfortable to, and perfectly in every right to mentaly cope with the situation as he is what with millions of people watching him, and as are 10,000s of other regular men in lifts.

but yeah i don't like the way tom cruise's height fluxuates, i think if your gonna go the full way with hidden stilletos then you should stay in them at all times.

at the end of the day people will know, and you just have to let them know your in lifts, especially when you shoot up 3 inches taller the next day!

Why do you wanna be 5'11". You have REAL problems no doubt, but you said before that you just want to fit in. LL to 5'8" = you will fit in.

With lifts you will be elevating your height by 7 inches. That is a sure fire way to look stupid.

 

[HairPieceMan]

wearing lifts = going on tip toes!

it doesn't change anything, if you think it does it's in your mind, maybe you stand up a little straighter but its barely noticable.

its like being on tip toes, that is what lifts are, heels.

it's fine, beleive me, you've probably seen lots of guys in lifts and never noticed.

 

[HairPieceMan]

but yes, after LL sugery I do plan to wear lifts, either 1,2 or even 3 inch lifts.

depends on how I feel.

 

[Hairforever]

What are the drawbacks/risks of LL surgery? Arthritus? Circulation problems. It sounds like a recipe for lifelong pain - a form of medieval torture.