Post Finasteride Syndrome Or Post Baldness Syndrom

[Afro_Vacancy]

Seems like you love this feeling of a girl whorshiping you... I can't stand that when a man whorsphips me.

The one time I've had a girl really like me, I don't know if she "worshipped" me but it changed things. It made life easier and more fun. I didn't need to behave perfectly and walk on eggshells, I was allowed to be a human being, and she would do nice things too. She would kiss back and fondle back. It was a mutual relationship.

The general popular consensus is that men need to chase after women, beg, and supplicate. If the man is perfect, then maybe the woman can acknowledge his existence. I don't think that's ideal. Mutual interest is better.

 

[shookwun]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...rn-older-fathers-likely-ugly-live-longer.html

men have a wider margin for error, and gap. Which is good because if I have children then 30s would be most optimal given my situation.




depends, but in general most women always date older. But this fantasy that a 40 year old man will be wining, and dining twenty year old babes is comical at best.

1-5 age difference is pretty average, and common. Anything above is not the norm.

It is absolutely uncomfortable and not normal to chase women into one's thirties.

The median age of first marriage is around 28 for women and 30 for men, and if you assume those couples were together for two years, subtract two years for median age of last coupling. That's what normal is.

The remaining women are largely divorced, available because they're undesirable, available because they have delusional standards, or otherwise similarly problematic, it's a hard game.

The most beautiful woman I've been on an online date with was 31 and had never had a relationship longer than a year. Red flag. Given how gorgeous she was (an 8.5+) she undoubtedly had her pick of incredible men. I didn't get to know her well enough to tell you, but she definitely lacked self awareness.

I wish I had it together when I was 19, things would have gone better as the landscape was then bursting at the seams with desirable women. Given that men are later bloomers than women, men have it best if they catch a good woman early.

It's also not 1985 anymore. A woman is now extremely unlikely to seriously date a man twenty years older unless he's extraordinarily wealthy. Good luck. On dating profiles, most women in their 20s make it impossible for a 30+ men to get in touch with them. The software won't allow you to send the message.

Having a kid in your 50s is not a good plan. You also need the energy to raise the kid properly, to run after him on the yard, etc. Older parents can have a very very hard time. My dad was 49 when I was born, he was in great health, and he had a very hard time.

Brb I'm going to go dumpster diving for leftovers ;-) ...

 

[shookwun]

in other news, baldos, and 1000 photo snap cherry pickers will have another obstacle to face.


real time snap chat video chats while meeting women online.

As you guys all know, even if you talk to a women online.. most like in the moment snaps of what you look like.


no more cherry picking flattering pictures, and having a perfect comb over.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4234162/Tinder-plans-add-video-function.html

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...rn-older-fathers-likely-ugly-live-longer.html

men have a wider margin for error, and gap. Which is good because if I have children then 30s would be most optimal given my situation.




depends, but in general most women always date older. But this fantasy that a 40 year old man will be wining, and dining twenty year old babes is comical at best.

1-5 age difference is pretty average, and common. Anything above is not the norm.

I'm not sure about this methodology:

Surveying a group of six men and six women, researchers showed them each 4,018 photographs of 18-20-year-old men and 4,416 of women the same age, and asked tor ate their attractiveness.

Those with older fathers were consistently rated less attractive.

Are the children of older men less attractive due to mutations, or simply because less attractive fathers are less likely to have lots of sex in their early 20s?

I'm also unsure why they only used 12 subjects.

 

[shookwun]

I'm not sure about this methodology:

Surveying a group of six men and six women, researchers showed them each 4,018 photographs of 18-20-year-old men and 4,416 of women the same age, and asked tor ate their attractiveness.

Those with older fathers were consistently rated less attractive.

Are the children of older men less attractive due to mutations, or simply because less attractive fathers are less likely to have lots of sex in their early 20s?

I'm also unsure why they only used 12 subjects.

i would say its flawed, after all it is the daily mail.


sources not needed

 

[Xander94]

I don't really know what's worse about women: their shallowness, their pettiness or the combination of both things.

Their existance

 

[CopeForLife]

Yet, we are still loved and needed

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not when u're getting old

 

[CopeForLife]

Ahaha, you guys won't let go the only weapon you got, hein!

there was a typo tho

 

[kj6723]

I feel like you. The more I am close to the age it seems appropriate to have children, the less appropriate it seems to me.
I also think it will be an obstacle to a relationship, because I actually think that more men than women want to have children.

Really? I mean I've never done a tally or anything lol. You could be right

 

[kj6723]

Do you own a motorcycle or more? What is it?

I have a little early 2000's ninja. It's all I can afford at the moment but I love it

 

[kj6723]

But I see it like this: if I have kids and it doesn't work out, I can still bail, at worst I'll be paying 200€ a month for child support (and if I don't pay, maybe they'll take away my driver's license! OMG!).

Man I don't think I'd ever be able to bail...living in constant guilt when not focused on my children, and never feeling the freedom to enjoy a moment doing what I want

 

[kj6723]

Getting a divorce doesn't mean that you're giving up on your kids.

In my country, alternating custody is the norm, one week with the father, one week with the mother.

You're still allowed to think about yourself and to enjoy your hobbies,

Hell my father spent almost all his time in his garden and toying with his car, and it's not like he fucked me up...

...

Ok, misunderstood you lol. I thought you were implying abandoning the kids all together if you didn't feel like dealing with parenting anymore

Yeah, I know you can still have hobbies, but likely less than you did as a man without kids, and the time to spend on them will be more limited.

I'm just not going to worry about this unless I actually end up settling down with a female, which isn't looking to be happening anytime soon.

 

[Xander94]

Is there even such a thing as PFS is it curable and what is it caused by?

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Is there even such a thing as PFS is it curable and what is it caused by?

My best guess:

Yes, possibly related to allopregnalone damage, CDnuts protocol seems to cure it and is plausibly overkill.

 

[hairblues]

Like many men, I'm still scared of having children for the reasons you mention.

But I see it like this: if I have kids and it doesn't work out, I can still bail, at worst I'll be paying 200€ a month for child support (and if I don't pay, maybe they'll take away my driver's license! OMG!).

If I chose to remain childless until I'm in my late 30's, it will be too late, I won't be able to go back in time to try again. Just like I can't go back to relive the 3 years of my youth that have gone down the drain.

You only get one shot at this. I know people will say you can have kids in your 40's, your 50's but it's mostly a cope. When you meet one of these people that have 'missed the train', you know something about them feels off, it's hard to explain.

Narcissism makes a lot of people (especially women) think they have all the time in the world to meet Mr/Mrs right and have children, but again, it's just not true.

We have to remember that it takes 3 years on average for couples to decide to have their first child. And you see these 32 year old women be like "I have all the time in the world!" while they haven't even met the guy yet.

I'd feel quite uncomfortable if I was still chasing girls on Tinder well into in my 30's.

No one was saying this about women he's a dude.

He has time.

Let me just say this--if a person does not want kids they should not have kids because it is in self interest when someone does not want them (which is not alway a bad thing) and if you are narcissistic it's not good parent material. Get a dog instead.

 

[Bobster231]

Is there even such a thing as PFS is it curable and what is it caused by?

Finasteride irreversibly binds to the 5 alpha reductase enzyme. It blocks the conversion and biosynthesis of major critical brain chemicals that regulate mood and cognition and genital health. If you are an unlucky man this drug can tail spin you into a suicidal depression.

The official theory is if you get side effects on the drug, you stop taking it for a while and feel better and it stays that way and everything goes back to normal as the 5 ar enzyme regenerates. For some guys they report feeling better for a short time after stopping the drug but than for some reason your body completely crashes with the surge of dht back and your receptors can't handle it and all of your hormones plummet to hypogonadal levels. And than its a sh*t show trying to fix your hormones.

And hormone therapy doesn't seem to help any of the symptoms. It seems as people develop a strange form of androgen resistance or receptor damage with very low 5ar activity.

This is happening a lot.. it's quite common even if it's a small percentage.
It's a big risk you are willing to take.

It's literally Russian Roulette. Could pay off and you keep your hair, or it could backfire and you end with 1000x worse problems than hair loss.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Yes, it's self-interest and the will to fit it, to be normal, to be seen as a 'winner' all play a role in this decision.

When my friends will be talking about their kids doing well in school, I don't want to be like "Look at what my dog can do! He's a good boy!".

Loser.

I also don't want to be a disappointment for my family, it's only natural that my mother wants to be a grandmother for example.

And before you say 'why do you care about what others think?', isn't being accepted by others one of the reasons we want hair?

Yes there is the identity component, the aesthetic aspect, but what comes third? Social acceptance.

Being at peace with how we look and liking what we see in the mirror are crucial to normally function in society.

And so is having kids at a point. I've seen how childless people were treated by society: they are mocked and seen as failures. That's just how it is. You can say 'so what?! f*** them!' all you want, I'll just reply 'so what people care about your hair loss?! f*** them.'

Of course this is not my main drive for wanting kids, there's also having someone to take care of me when I'm old, and before you get cynical about that one, I see both my father and my mother take very good care of their folks.

I also want a legacy. I want to experience what my father and my grandfather felt the day their child were born, they said it was the happiest day of their lives. Most men will tell you this.

So selfish! Yeah, we all are. I'm selfish for wanting kids, and you're selfish for not wanting them and putting yourself first. Works both ways.

These societal expectations are changing with the last two generations. Both women and men are increasingly opting to not have children. According to the ONS (2015) 14% of women under 40 do not have children. However, the number rises to 42% with women under 30. Qualitative data also supports the idea that people are increasingly concerned about having children because of the financial pressures it would cause.

In short, it will be increasingly normalised to not have children as each birth rates continue to plummet.

Side note: UK data is also very skewed because 1 in 4 children born in the UK were born by non British citizens - essentially meaning that foreign mothers (those who shallnt be named) are inflating the numbers and the data.


So, do not have children to fulfil a societal expectation because those expectations are changing fast. But if you want to have children because you feel like you would be a good father and that its something you really want then I say go for it.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

You Brit guys better get to it!!!

Nooo birth rates are falling throughout Europe and this needs to continue throughout the world.

Population growth over the past 30 years has been astronomical and the environmental implications are devastating.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Nooo birth rates are falling throughout Europe and this needs to continue throughout the world.

Population growth over the past 30 years has been astronomical and the environmental implications are devastating.

Wouldn't it be great if there were only like 1 million people on the planet?

A great thing about having no kids is having no stake in this sh*t show. Climate change? Global collapse? Bring it on b**ch! See if I care.

A large portion of my friends (mid twenties) currently do not want kids. But looking at 30 year olds I think most will change their minds at some point, probably me as well if I'm being honest.

We are all descendants of people who had kids (duh!). Thus you can presume that it's quite biologically ingrained in us to reproduce.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Yes, it's self-interest and the will to fit it, to be normal, to be seen as a 'winner' all play a role in this decision.

When my friends will be talking about their kids doing well in school, I don't want to be like "Look at what my dog can do! He's a good boy!".

Loser.

I also don't want to be a disappointment for my family, it's only natural that my mother wants to be a grandmother for example.

And before you say 'why do you care about what others think?', isn't being accepted by others one of the reasons we want hair?

Yes there is the identity component, the aesthetic aspect, but what comes third? Social acceptance.

Being at peace with how we look and liking what we see in the mirror are crucial to normally function in society.

And so is having kids at a point. I've seen how childless people were treated by society: they are mocked and seen as failures. That's just how it is. You can say 'so what?! f*** them!' all you want, I'll just reply 'so what people care about your hair loss?! f*** them.'

Of course this is not my main drive for wanting kids, there's also having someone to take care of me when I'm old, and before you get cynical about that one, I see both my father and my mother take very good care of their folks.

I also want a legacy. I want to experience what my father and my grandfather felt the day their child were born, they said it was the happiest day of their lives. Most men will tell you this.

So selfish! Yeah, we all are. I'm selfish for wanting kids, and you're selfish for not wanting them and putting yourself first. Works both ways.

Just the act of living your life is selfish. It's a truly meaningless point.