Preparing for a future hair transplant in the early 20s
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First off, let me state that I think this guy should definitely go for a hair transplant. Yes, at his age. As long as hairloss has stabilized, he's on finasteride, and can afford it, he should be fine. My hairloss was stable by 22 having started finasteride at 19. His recession is very pronounced and there is no chance that it's not negatively impacting the quality of his life.
Also, I need to address the outdated concept of "saving" grafts. Essentially, what HT55 is reccomending is that Rutt go for a smaller session, getting a less stellar result so that at some point in the future he can do more? What the hell is that? This isn't 1990. We have propecia now. If it works for you, then your loss will be stopped and stable and you should be slamming in as MANY graft as you can within 1-2 sessions. Get over this afflication and move on.
Remember, the goal of a transplant TODAY is to move on with your life, get laid, find a wife, and have a nice life. It's NOT to design your life around getting multiple hair transplants unecessarily.
There are docs out there who will get you to the finish line in 1-2 sessions. It takes money, however, and all of the preconditions I listed above should also be met.
Rutt, seriously look into trying to get 4,500 or more grafts in a single session and 2,500 in a second. Call H&W and then a few others and see what they say.
Also, I need to address the outdated concept of "saving" grafts. Essentially, what HT55 is reccomending is that Rutt go for a smaller session, getting a less stellar result so that at some point in the future he can do more? What the hell is that? This isn't 1990. We have propecia now. If it works for you, then your loss will be stopped and stable and you should be slamming in as MANY graft as you can within 1-2 sessions. Get over this afflication and move on.
Remember, the goal of a transplant TODAY is to move on with your life, get laid, find a wife, and have a nice life. It's NOT to design your life around getting multiple hair transplants unecessarily.
There are docs out there who will get you to the finish line in 1-2 sessions. It takes money, however, and all of the preconditions I listed above should also be met.
Rutt, seriously look into trying to get 4,500 or more grafts in a single session and 2,500 in a second. Call H&W and then a few others and see what they say.
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WasBalding said:
I have to disagree with you. Finasteride is not a cure. There may come a time when it loses efficacy or he can't tolerate it. He's a norwood 3 at 22 which means he has relatively aggressive male pattern baldness. Even with finasteride he could end up being a norwood 5 or 6 by 30. Then what? He'll have an unnatural looking balding pattern. I think it's better to wait until at least the late 20s so that he can spread grafts more conservatively and also get a better idea of what his final balding pattern will be.
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Rutt, if I was you, I'd use the big 3 and some Toppik for a few years and then when your in your late 20s I'd go for the hair transplant if you still want it. I'm 26 and pushing a Norwood 3 but I with a good hair style and some Toppik I look like a strong Norwood 2. I'm thinking of getting a hair transplant in my early 30s depending on how my hair loss progresses.
WasBalding said:
Your an idiot plain and simple, telling a 22 year old kid to get an aggressive transpant.
I saw you thread and you have good results but you have used 6K donor at age 30, Propecia wears off after time ( I have been using it 14 years so hopefully it's not that soon) and I'm sure joetronic at H+W told you that because if it stops working GOOD LUCK as most of your donor is gone at a young age. They put your hairline is a mature spot so you should be Ok.
To put things in perspective I have about the same amount of hair as you do but I'm 42 and have used 2K grafts and I worry that someday the Propecia will stop working and I will run out of donor.
Also if you don't think the side effects of Propecia are real in SOME PEOPLE ( not you and me) you're kidding yourself.
Rutt said:
THINK ! There is a reason Feller and Shapiro won't do that many grafts, do you think they don't like money ?
They know with your hair loss at age 22 they have to be conservative.
Whatever you do don't listen to that idiot "wasbalding" who thinks propecia works forever and stops hair loss
Nene said:
He had a transplant so now he's an expert, lol. Telling a 22 year old kid to use 4500 grafts.
Wasbalding better hope Propecia keeps working for him as he has used 6K grafts in his lifetime at age 30 and has been on Propecia 11 years.
H+W gave him a mature hairline planning for further loss so he SHOULD be ok but if the Propecia stops working someday look out.
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I think wasbalding is not in a bad position though. I would imagine that the hair he has left is going to stick around for a while, especially with the help of finasteride, and even if that starts to go, he should have a few k donor remaining. If after exhausting all his donor and after finasteride stops working, he still loses hair, I would imagine that won't be for some time. In that case at least he would have had his 30s and probably some of his 40s with a good head of hair. However, I agree with you that OP should not even consider a hair transplant for near a decade.
Nene said:
Don't think for ONE MINUTE you won't care about hair in your 40's and 50's and possibly beyond. I used to think that I wouldn't care in my 40's either............WRONG, lol
It certainly looks like I could have loaded up my hairline with another 2K grafts and got away with it but I would never reccomend that to a 22 year old kid who has some pretty good hair loss already.
Wasbalding made his decision and he is happy ( for now anyway) but the advice he is giving out is TERRIBLE. One look at the repair section on the Hair Transplant Network shows more and more 20 somethings which is sad.
there will definitely be some serious progress on HM within the next 5-10 years, probably not an outright cure but definitely another source for donor
if you are going to say 'it's always been xx years away', you don't realize that stem cell research has only begun to pick up steam recently
if you are going to say 'it's always been xx years away', you don't realize that stem cell research has only begun to pick up steam recently
if this isn't fixable within 2-3 years my life is shot anyway so not much difference
gotta take some risks or life isn't worth living, and for reasons i've already laid in i dont even feel it's that big of a risk. plus im not looking to drop 5k grafts, probably closer to the 2k range
gotta take some risks or life isn't worth living, and for reasons i've already laid in i dont even feel it's that big of a risk. plus im not looking to drop 5k grafts, probably closer to the 2k range
Ok so your life will be shot if you don't have hair in 2 -3 years but if you look like a science project at age 40 everything will be ok ? Think about what you are saying.
As I said go to feller or Shapiro and see what they say, 2k FUE should be fine but what the other guy said is beyond foolish
Good Luck
As I said go to feller or Shapiro and see what they say, 2k FUE should be fine but what the other guy said is beyond foolish
Good Luck
PatienlyWaiting
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Now, I truly dont get this forum. Are you trying to discourage him, or anyone for that matter, from having an hair transplant? You had 3. You are one of the most active posters on here. A science project? How is that reconciled with an outcome that doesnt "look terrible"? Your post is contradictory, and Im certainly not trying to be critical because I value, and have valued, your advice -- but seriously, dudemon, what are you suggesting?
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PatienlyWaiting said:
We are saying he is too young ( 22) to get a hair transplant with as much hair loss as he has at such a young age. He might be able to get away with using 1.5K grafts with FUE and a mature hairline but it's still risky as just about anyone who was losing hair at 22 will tell you by age 30 they lost quite a bit more.
The other guy is telling a 22 year old kid to use 4500 grafts which is beyond idiotic
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Ok, thats a fair statement. I didnt have quite as much hair loss at 22 as him, In fact I am now 30 with about his hairline or maybe little less loss. But I have been pretty stable on finasteride for 6 years and goping for 1800 grafts wit Cole in a month. Was hoping the gurus on here werent suggesting that it was a bad idea, in my case.
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HT55 said:
I'm not suggesting he or I or anyone won't care in his 40's and 50's. What I am saying is that in wasbalding's case, that at least he can have good hair in his 30s and most of his 40s and then in his 50s if the sh*t hits the fan, he'll just have to deal with it. The alternative is too wait until finasteride stops working, he loses all his hair, and then gets a very thin transplant or to never get a transplant. At least this way he has good hair for a couple decades. HT55 put up that link to that kid from the other forum who you warned a million times and then came back crying. He'll change his mind.