Reactivated My Dating Profiles, Trying To Be Enthusiastic Without Being Obsessed

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34, but I'm inexperienced and nervous.

I've been cold approaching for a long time. The patterns of behaviour are sequences. It's second nature knowing when to push, pull, when to make out, pull back or even next her. I dropped five in the last week. They can contact me but, I lost their numbers meaning, 'next set.'

34 is young. You got a bit on me but 35+ IMHO is male SMV top form. It's 'mature' enough to have life experience, resources, and the sort of lifestyle you deem worth while. Spend time with what you place value on beyond women and dating.

It's interesting. At the risk of sounding tin foil hat conspiracy theorist, I got to say it. I have exposed myself to edgy channels like RSD Tyler and others. I have did a lot of cold approach and accumulated a lot of experience. Interesting fun fact, women are taught by society to get a career and wait till thirty when baby rabies kick off and Chad's attention stops coming. Men on the other hand tend to do the opposite. Instead of laying ground work, prowling, and getting experience, most men check out long before top form SMV. Women at top form are running through Chad's then marrying after top form is done. Women marry a man entering top former SMV.

These men end up cucked, divorced, and footing a bill for the next 18+ years. I saw a Huffington post article about 81% of divorce women initiate. This life life is ruthless. Feels have no merit or value unless you are a woman. Nobody cares.

I think you are doing it right. I think you need more time. I know I do. I dream of very much. I have no idea what it will take for me to settle down but, playing homemaker when Chad's stop calling isn't for me nor is raising some other man's baby. I would much prefer my genes are weeded out of existence.

Date younger. Thin/young/attractive. If a man is about to risk it all, she best be on top form or next.
 

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Not really, I have a much better attitude, and I'm less good looking than Xander.

He could do very well with women if he wanted.

Probably if he wasn't a psycho like Elliott rogers.

The dating pool is gross these days. His cynicism is not entirely off based. If you see that the divorce stats are based upon female discontentment, that the vast majority of women are a booty call for Chads and the rest of us are to foot the bill when her best days are over, you grow very resentful. He has.

The ideal approach is to 1. Not follow the beaten path of society 2. Not listening to the jargon pedaled in society (ie slit shame/fat shame but brb, demonize masculinity while pushing female victimhood). 3. Set your own rules!

Society pushes not to sl*t or fat shame women. Why? Mitigate declining sexual market value. The same push for proud single mom. Society then shames men for toxic masculinity rather than looking at the world through the same lens.

If the choice is marrying w****s and raising bastard children while being cucked, it is pretty obvious to be single. Most men are fools and fall in line.

Xander no doubt saw some sh*t. Swearing off all women isn't the answer. Sifting through the dating pool to vet a good bunch of women is ideal.

Being willing to walk goes a long way too.
 

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I've been cold approaching for a long time. The patterns of behaviour are sequences. It's second nature knowing when to push, pull, when to make out, pull back or even next her. I dropped five in the last week. They can contact me but, I lost their numbers meaning, 'next set.'

34 is young. You got a bit on me but 35+ IMHO is male SMV top form. It's 'mature' enough to have life experience, resources, and the sort of lifestyle you deem worth while. Spend time with what you place value on beyond women and dating.

It's interesting. At the risk of sounding tin foil hat conspiracy theorist, I got to say it. I have exposed myself to edgy channels like RSD Tyler and others. I have did a lot of cold approach and accumulated a lot of experience. Interesting fun fact, women are taught by society to get a career and wait till thirty when baby rabies kick off and Chad's attention stops coming. Men on the other hand tend to do the opposite. Instead of laying ground work, prowling, and getting experience, most men check out long before top form SMV. Women at top form are running through Chad's then marrying after top form is done. Women marry a man entering top former SMV.

These men end up cucked, divorced, and footing a bill for the next 18+ years. I saw a Huffington post article about 81% of divorce women initiate. This life life is ruthless. Feels have no merit or value unless you are a woman. Nobody cares.

I think you are doing it right. I think you need more time. I know I do. I dream of very much. I have no idea what it will take for me to settle down but, playing homemaker when Chad's stop calling isn't for me nor is raising some other man's baby. I would much prefer my genes are weeded out of existence.

Date younger. Thin/young/attractive. If a man is about to risk it all, she best be on top form or next.

Social phenomena are complex and multifaceted. For a given outcome, we might have two different explanations. These explanations might be contradictory, complementary, or in fact the same and we don't even realize it.

A possible example is the evolving nature and "market value" of men and women. I think that one possible factor is that men might take longer to mature, on average. The best men at 20 don't necessarily correspond to the best men at 30. A female friend used to say that it's hard to tell how handsome a man is going to be prior to 30. That may be. I feel like my relative worth is much higher now than 15 years ago -- but I could be wrong.

Dating younger is not trivial. Women sort by age on dating apps, as in the app tells them what age range to look at. If a woman lists 22-32 or something like that, then she will never match with a 33 year-old man.

Probably if he wasn't a psycho like Elliott rogers.

The dating pool is gross these days. His cynicism is not entirely off based. If you see that the divorce stats are based upon female discontentment, that the vast majority of women are a booty call for Chads and the rest of us are to foot the bill when her best days are over, you grow very resentful. He has.

The ideal approach is to 1. Not follow the beaten path of society 2. Not listening to the jargon pedaled in society (ie slit shame/fat shame but brb, demonize masculinity while pushing female victimhood). 3. Set your own rules!

Society pushes not to sl*t or fat shame women. Why? Mitigate declining sexual market value. The same push for proud single mom. Society then shames men for toxic masculinity rather than looking at the world through the same lens.

If the choice is marrying w****s and raising bastard children while being cucked, it is pretty obvious to be single. Most men are fools and fall in line.

Xander no doubt saw some sh*t. Swearing off all women isn't the answer. Sifting through the dating pool to vet a good bunch of women is ideal.

Being willing to walk goes a long way too.
Have you seen his photos?

He is a good looking white man with a good frame in his early 20s. If he wants to do well with women, he can.
 

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Social phenomena are complex and multifaceted. For a given outcome, we might have two different explanations. These explanations might be contradictory, complementary, or in fact the same and we don't even realize it.

A possible example is the evolving nature and "market value" of men and women. I think that one possible factor is that men might take longer to mature, on average. The best men at 20 don't necessarily correspond to the best men at 30. A female friend used to say that it's hard to tell how handsome a man is going to be prior to 30. That may be. I feel like my relative worth is much higher now than 15 years ago -- but I could be wrong.

Dating younger is not trivial. Women sort by age on dating apps, as in the app tells them what age range to look at. If a woman lists 22-32 or something like that, then she will never match with a 33 year-old man.


Have you seen his photos?

He is a good looking white man with a good frame in his early 20s. If he wants to do well with women, he can.
Your relative worth is very high. However, most people judge people by their looks and never their relative worth.
 

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Social phenomena are complex and multifaceted. For a given outcome, we might have two different explanations. These explanations might be contradictory, complementary, or in fact the same and we don't even realize it.

Time is a f****r. It gets us all. I am fascinated by it and I fear it. I am interested in chaos theory and the butterfly effect. Cold approach is a big f*** you to that notion of wait for the right one. Because women fall out of the sky. She is just waiting to get married lol

More like, aware that betas will propose regardless of her poor lifestyle choices. Scream misogyny in piss poor attempt to dismiss any self ownership or accountability.

I don't think there's any blanket statement for a solution. Given my experience, youth seems to be key. By that, a woman trades in her best years for a husband, marriage, motherhood, etc. It's just an expectation now a days. You as a man are a atm expected to provide resources whether or not she offers value or not.

One of the biggest game changers is a woman biological clock. Social engineering has pushed a narrative of not having children. Essentially, a lot of women acting and behaving like men. The same notion of gender being fluid coupled with a series of other delusional sentiments.

I am not sure what the solution is. I am working on it. I just know that I am further removed from marriage as time goes on. I am well aware it's the ideal path especially for children but, what marriage has become in the west is utterly insane.

A possible example is the evolving nature and "market value" of men and women. I think that one possible factor is that men might take longer to mature, on average. The best men at 20 don't necessarily correspond to the best men at 30. A female friend used to say that it's hard to tell how handsome a man is going to be prior to 30. That may be. I feel like my relative worth is much higher now than 15 years ago -- but I could be wrong.

I woukdnt doubt that. Society would have pushed you to raise some other man's baby with a woman your age or older. That or to marry the girl who pissed away her youth chasing douchebag and bad boys. She can do no wrong and be a shitty person. She can't cuck you and be a horrible mother and wife. Society will sing her praises and pedal to her victim narrative. Government will shower her in resources.

I credit you. Bide time. Seek self-knowledge. Explore conscious. Overcome fears. Step up as a man. Nobody can tell you how to live your life. Use apps and online but, definitely give cold approach a go. She cannot catfish or hide behind a filter. Her crazy will come out. If she's a space cadet it will be portrayed early in the interaction.

Dating younger is not trivial. Women sort by age on dating apps, as in the app tells them what age range to look at. If a woman lists 22-32 or something like that, then she will never match with a 33 year-old man.

I understand what you mean but, once a woman's SMV plummets, let's say crows feet, fat, single mom, etc yet, she still has her shity entitlement like when she was hawt, it's game over. I am not suggesting she can't fucjk, I am saying, the SMV make she acquires will be a significant date down. It's irrelevant regardless what a woman sets her parameters to date (I also suspect social engineering going on here btw but I digree). Irrelevant because new girls are turning 18/19/20/21 everyday. The hottest girl today cannot hold here own against tomorrow's crop on the way up. It's again why feminism and hookup culture cheers women off the cliff.

Any attempt to Shame a free thinking man for dating young goes to deaf ears. The same for any suggestion of proud single mom, for marrying the catered remains of declining youth and SMV. The good girl shtick gets a shot of steroids when Chad's stop calling. Girls put it on thick. Most guys checkout the first semi decent looking girl shows any sign of interest.

Have you seen his photos?

He is a good looking white man with a good frame in his early 20s. If he wants to do well with women, he can.

If he is crazy or had a series of poor experience with women, ones on which it's warped how he views women as a whole, he won't succeed regardless of his SMV. Of course all women are special snowflakes heavenly blessed beauties regardless of body fat and can do no wrong. Or so society would try to have you believe.

I suspect he's a bit fucked up psychologically. If I were to guess, I would question his home environment and the women he's dated.
 

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I've been experimenting with Chewbacca-game if anybody is curious.
I'll remove this picture within 24 hours:

Care to elaborate?

I am a recovering beta male and chronic people pleaser.

A fun fact, the second I began to act in a more alpha way, I dated more, and hookups were more common. Not to say, I could easily backside. I do my best not to do so. I am not provider male. I am not looking to play homemaker or captain save a hoe. Making bold statements. Being willing to hold my ground, even offend at times rather then comply to ridiculous societal standards or expectations.

A simple example, telling a girl to give her number rather than asking. I can get rejected by either approach. One holds better ground and frame. Moreover, it sets precedence later. :)
 

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I got a girl naked tonight but I couldn't go through with it, nerves and all. Had an adequate boner and then it went away as we got closer to the deed. I gave her a long massage (she played nice and said that I could start a second career) and then told her that I couldn't finish. Hopefully it's ok.
It's ok.
Once it happened to me the first time with a hot girl.
The second time we did it with difficulties.
The third time, almost a good session.
From the fourth, we did it like there was no tomorrow.
She later told me that she was not negatively impressed by the first time. She said that one fail suggested I was into her, not into her boobs only.

How right she was :-(

One year later she left me for a super Chad.
 

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It's ok.
Once it happened to me the first time with a hot girl.
The second time we did it with difficulties.
The third time, almost a good session.
From the fourth, we did it like there was no tomorrow.
She later told me that she was not negatively impressed by the first time. She said that one fail suggested I was into her, not into her boobs only.

How right she was :-(

One year later she left me for a super Chad.
wait so basically you cucked chad and he had your leftovers LOL
 

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I've been experimenting with Chewbacca-game if anybody is curious.
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pic?
 

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decent beard, David, but you should experiment with it, maybe make it a bit shorter to stubble

anyway it's much better than shaved
 

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Within popular culture, we use the word "chemistry" to refer to any kind of compatibility. It's an idea of people "clicking", they may not be perfect for everybody, but they're perfect for each other.

I have some trivial insight on this.

It concerns the clinical psychology / professor that I went out with 2 weeks ago. She's attractive (to me), but I would not consider her the hottest person that I've been out with or kissed. Our ~90 minute date was ok, the conversation was ok, it might have only been 60 minutes which is a bad sign. We did talk, there were no awkward silences, she was engaged but ... but it felt like she was a mile away rather than 1 foot away. There was no conversational chemistry, perhaps there would be with time but it didn't seem like it. That's fine, whatever. I didn't have any antagonism to her, just indifference, unfortunately. If I had seen her again at that point, it would have been out of curiosity, just in case I had been wrong which of course can happen.

I kissed her at the end of the date and ... wow. Holy f***. Simply electric. I had never felt such tingle from lips in my life, I don't think, maybe from my ex-girlfriend ten years ago, but I was in love with her. I had a hard boner in like five seconds, literally. She was engaged as well. I opened my eyes a little bit, and she had a deep and profound smile, a naughty smile, her kisses were kind of like pulses, she'd lay back, then get on her toes and kiss again with enthusiasm.

tldr; physical and romantic chemistry are separate things and should be described by separate words.
 
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