You need to be careful sounds like your bodies hormones are in chaos, I really do not agree with the stacking of multiple drugs to counter act the sides of another drug, where does this end? if its making you happy then crack on but this is not sustainable in the long term and you do not want to cause permanent damage.
Thanks for looking out and I agree with you that what I'm doing right now isn't recommended from a health stand point. What I'm trying to accomplish right now is determine the lowest dose of ORM-15341 I can tolerate without getting gyno sides. After I find that dose, my plan is to get off the Ralox and hopefully the AI but I think a low dose of AI is required for ORM to not get sides, no matter the dose. The reason I'm sticking with ORM is because it's the most potent anti-androgen I tried, it's FDA approved, and it's by far the cheapest antiandrogen for hair. At 0.5mg a day (which is a really potent dose), it would cost me 17.5 cents a day / $64 per year. I speculate that the highest dose I could tolerate per day would be 0.1mg a day, which would cost me $13 per year (not including the money spent on AI and the ethanol/PG vehicle).
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Be careful, my dude. Hormones r no joke. That's why im so hesitant to use my biestro.
Couldn't agree more. Hormones are powerful and will give you benefits but there is always a cost. Just to add to my previous post, I also experienced my first ever anxiety attack from low estrogen. I also had no appetite at all. I would barely eat anything but after taking the Dermacrine, I actually feel hungry.
Maybe focus more on sorting out the vehicle because it sounds like your current solution is as effective as IV administration.
I am wondering if Bi-Estro could be helpful for my low E2 levels (But maybe I am wrong since there is a difference in the tissues than serum, but from the systemic absorption I guess it could raise it. Still pretty risky though). My latest blood test came only 4.5 pg/ml.
What kicked off my hair loss journey was a steroid cycle in my early 20s which lead to me using letrozole for mild gyno, reversed the problem almost instantly but I had a shed which took years to recover from. I am very apprehensive about toying with aromatase inhibitors now for this reason, I honestly do not believe there is a healthy medium.
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Should have used Raloxifene, better efficacy against gyno and pretty hair safe but it's more likely aas's caused the shed and loss theres no hair safe way of doing cycles.
Yup true, I learned the hard way!
I'm not sure why I'm getting sides from such a small dose (0.5 mg) but maybe other people who have used ORM or Daro in the past with no sides didn't have legit substances? Also, what vehicle would you recommend? DMSO, Liposomal, PG, KB, ethanol, etc.?
I'm not well versed on transdermal delivery vehicles but clearly you need to significantly reduce the percent of penetration enhancers so, yeah no DMSO lol. So putting my broscience cap on, I'd iteratively reduce the concentration of ethanol, and add purified/distilled water and assess if the solution is still producing systemic sides.
The vehicle I'm using right now is 52.5% ethanol / 17.5% water / 30% PG. I'm using everclear 75%, thus 17.5% water. Do you know the purpose of PG in a vehicle? The only reason I use it is because that's what everyone recommends.
Didn't realise you were using water, just noticed you mentioning ethanol and PG earlier. No doubt more knowledgable people can chime in.
Do you experience any anti-androgenic sides?
I definitely don't have an itch but aside from that I experience no other effects from the ORM besides the gyno flare ups. I want to find the dose that I can take daily or every other day to finally see the results it has for hair over a period of a month. This stuff is no joke. 250mg of RU per day makes my gyno flare up but it only takes 0.01mg of this stuff (the half life is 10x longer tho).
Crazy, I can't believe that you literally can develop female breasts only by AA. I wonder if gyno surgery will put that off permanently....