Shampoo DOES NOT CAUSE BALDNESS

[Pondle]

Pondle, you don't read do you? I said many many times that I am not the technical expert on this grunge subject and pointed you and many others to GETITBACK to read all about it. There is just too many people shooting at me that I have no choice but to point people there. I understand you are interested in this as am I but again, everything you wanted to know about your questions are at GETITBACK. I am not trolling and yes I can engage in a rational debate. I have answered many people's questions on this subject so far. Have I answered all of them? NO. In time maybe I will but right now I was just accused of being two people and frankly it pisses me off and this is my number 1 concern at this moment. Sorry I am not able to talk more. Maybe later down the road ok mate?

Cutsinger, it does say at the top of the page "welcome to the most Popular, Educational, and Scientifically Centered interactive hair loss support community anywhere on the Web!" Folks who turn up here with a theory out of leftfield better have the evidence to back it up, otherwise they are going to be seriously exposed by some very knowledgeable, very well-read posters like Bryan, Michael Barry, Doctor, CCS and countless others.

I suggest you go back to getitback.us, PM Lawrence or whatever the name of your 'grunge guru' is, and ask him:
a. why did men go bald before the advent of shampoo use?
b. why don't all men who use shampoo eventually go bald?
c. why don't all women who use shampoo go bald?
d. why don't men who use shampoo lose all of their hair, including hair at the back and sides of the head which is not typically affected by male pattern baldness?
e. how do you explain the proven influence of androgens on scalp hair?
f. how do you explain the proven effectiveness of anti-androgen drugs in regrowing hair?

I'd bet my bottom dollar that Lawrence does not have a satisfactory answer to any of those questions. And when you see his bullshit 'theory' for the sheer brazen, idiotic scheisse that it is, go and get a Propecia prescription, pick up a can of Rogaine foam and finally wash your goddamn hair! :wink:

 

[Cutsinger is God]

Pondle, you don't read do you? I said many many times that I am not the technical expert on this grunge subject and pointed you and many others to GETITBACK to read all about it. There is just too many people shooting at me that I have no choice but to point people there. I understand you are interested in this as am I but again, everything you wanted to know about your questions are at GETITBACK. I am not trolling and yes I can engage in a rational debate. I have answered many people's questions on this subject so far. Have I answered all of them? NO. In time maybe I will but right now I was just accused of being two people and frankly it pisses me off and this is my number 1 concern at this moment. Sorry I am not able to talk more. Maybe later down the road ok mate?

Cutsinger, it does say at the top of the page "welcome to the most Popular, Educational, and Scientifically Centered interactive hair loss support community anywhere on the Web!" Folks who turn up here with a theory out of leftfield better have the evidence to back it up, otherwise they are going to be seriously exposed by some very knowledgeable, very well-read posters like Bryan, Michael Barry, Doctor, CCS and countless others.

I suggest you go back to getitback.us, PM Lawrence or whatever the name of your 'grunge guru' is, and ask him:
a. why did men go bald before the advent of shampoo use?
b. why don't all men who use shampoo eventually go bald?
c. why don't all women who use shampoo go bald?
d. why don't men who use shampoo lose all of their hair, including hair at the back and sides of the head which is not typically affected by male pattern baldness?
e. how do you explain the proven influence of androgens on scalp hair?
f. how do you explain the proven effectiveness of anti-androgen drugs in regrowing hair?

I'd bet my bottom dollar that Lawrence does not have a satisfactory answer to any of those questions. And when you see his bullshit 'theory' for the sheer brazen, idiotic scheisse that it is, go and get a Propecia prescription, pick up a can of Rogaine foam and finally wash your goddamn hair! :wink:

Frankly, I didn't like the tone in the end. You almost seem like you are upset with me. Please don't. I come here to this place in the name of peace. I mean no harm to anyone here. Lawrence, I doubt will come here. In fact he's hardly at GIB but came on last week to announce that he's in the process of contacting Oprah Winfrey which to me is a great sign his hair is getting even better than last years' July photos.

You are welcome to sign up at GIB and ask Lawrence himself those questions of yours. I am sure you will get an answer from Lawrence in a timely manner. Ok mate. Good luck.

 

[Diamond Dave]

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To show my kind heartedness, I do not want the mods to ban The Gardener for his mistake but instead I would like a sincere apology from him for everyone to see. I can't speak for Diamond Dave but I am sure he would also not want to see The Gardener banned.

Agreed. If not an apology then at least a confirmation from Cassin that Gardener fumbled.

 

[barcafan]

I guess it COULD be possible that they're psoting this from the same university? Or internet cafe? or some lan place that uses the same external IP

 

[Johnny24601]

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I went through the website and there were no answers to any of the questions asked on this forum. The site is a total joke starting with the childish setup to the useless information.
Seriously, wtf is going on here.

 

[Cutsinger is God]

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I went through the website and there were no answers to any of the questions asked on this forum. The site is a total joke starting with the childish setup to the useless information.
Seriously, wtf is going on here.

Did you try the forum? Believe me, all the questions you and everyone else asked are asked there and answered by professional regrowth experts like Dirty Hairy, Mr. Clean, Nizzy, Widowspeak, Guitarius, Firestorm UK(check out his photos simply marvelous) Kramer, House, O' Reilly, and the guru of regrowth HairGuy aka Lawrence Cutsinger. I not only invite you but anyone else to go there and ask these questions. The members there are friendly, kind and courteous and I assure you very sane.

 

[Pondle]

Frankly, I didn't like the tone in the end. You almost seem like you are upset with me. Please don't. I come here to this place in the name of peace. I mean no harm to anyone here. Lawrence, I doubt will come here. In fact he's hardly at GIB but came on last week to announce that he's in the process of contacting Oprah Winfrey which to me is a great sign his hair is getting even better than last years' July photos.

You are welcome to sign up at GIB and ask Lawrence himself those questions of yours. I am sure you will get an answer from Lawrence in a timely manner. Ok mate. Good luck.

If I sound upset with you it's because I like a good argument. And you guy/s haven't made a good argument. Merely asserting something, no matter how loudly, does not make it true. Your rash generalisations are easily refuted by numerous counter-examples - this is called a 'knock-down argument' in logic. Now you guy/s have been 'knocked down' countless times in every thread you've posted in, yet you keep coming back, and you keep evading all of the critiques we offer and questions we pose. Your sole justification seems to rely on 'truth by authority' - just because Lawrence said it, it must be true! Who the hell is Lawrence? A random guy on the Net, who knows very little about the science of hair loss judging by his easily refuted theory.

I repeat, ask Lawrence:
a. why did men go bald before the advent of shampoo use?
b. why don't all men who use shampoo eventually go bald?
c. why don't all women who use shampoo go bald?
d. why don't men who use shampoo lose all of their hair, including hair at the back and sides of the head which is not typically affected by male pattern baldness?
e. how do you explain the proven influence of androgens on scalp hair?
f. how do you explain the proven effectiveness of anti-androgen drugs in regrowing hair?

 

[Cutsinger is God]

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[quote="Cutsinger is God":e8183]To show my kind heartedness, I do not want the mods to ban The Gardener for his mistake but instead I would like a sincere apology from him for everyone to see. I can't speak for Diamond Dave but I am sure he would also not want to see The Gardener banned.

Agreed. If not an apology then at least a confirmation from Cassin that Gardener fumbled.[/quote:e8183]

Yes, anything from Cassin at this point saying Gardener/Barney Fife screwed this one up big time would be a positive in the right direction. I doubt Barney will ever apologize like you said Dave. It's not in him to admit he was wrong. This is why we are in this position to begin with. He simply can't stand to get beat.

 

[Guest]

Cutsinger you are really asking for it by picking on Gardener. It's just going to result in your bald *** getting banned even faster.

 

[Cutsinger is God]

Cutsinger you are really asking for it by picking on Gardener. It's just going to result in your bald *** getting banned even faster.

I'm picking on Gardener? Are you kidding me JayMan. Get out of here with that crap. I have no doubt if I wasn't on here today when The Gardener said I was Diamond Dave, that I would of been banned for a flat out LIE by Mr. Gardener. Your damn right I am upset about it now. Thank the good Lord I was on at the time of the accusation so I was able to defend myself. I noticed how you too JayMan wanted me banned thinking I was David as well. Don't think I won't remember that and for the love of God change that damn avatar. It drives me up the wall when I see that. It's sexual and offensive in nature and I dont' like it.

 

[Guest]

No I'm keeping it, just because I know how it irritates you

 

[abcdefg]

Why doesnt science figure out how stem cells go to hair follicles like all the molecular pathways and such? I mean isnt something like propecia kind of like shooting a fly with a cannon? To say its just hormones is a greatly simplifying it and thats why propecia is a dangerous way to deal with male pattern baldness.

 

[UK1]

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[Pondle]

Why doesnt science figure out how stem cells go to hair follicles like all the molecular pathways and such? I mean isnt something like propecia kind of like shooting a fly with a cannon? To say its just hormones is a greatly simplifying it and thats why propecia is a dangerous way to deal with male pattern baldness.

Dangerous? Propecia's side effects affect a small proportion of men, are relatively mild and cease totally after discontinuation of therapy. Besides, men with 5AR deficiency appear to live reasonably healthy lives.

 

[Cutsinger is God]

Let's see, ban someone over disagreements over shampoo causes hairloss and keep the guy that shows an offensive picture of a rather large black penis on a toilet when children could be reading this. Yeah, it makes alot of sense to me. :roll:

 

[beaner]

Let's see, ban someone over disagreements over shampoo causes hairloss and keep the guy that shows an offensive picture of a rather large black penis on a toilet when children could be reading this. Yeah, it makes alot of sense to me. :roll:

Why would children be browsing hair loss forums? Oh yeahhh...must be the Johnson and Johnson's

 

[UK1]

It's not a penis you dildo. :wink:
I shouldn't imagine there'll be many children on here but I'll be more than happy to take it down if anyone that matters is offended, you're not going to be banned for your shampoo beliefs by the way, you'll be banned as you're a freaky oddball, the same reason that your real life is probably a lonely mess.

 

[Johnny24601]

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I've gone through the website and the forum. I am speechless as to the stupidity of the site and the people involved. In fact most of the people say that this "grunge" (meaning not washing you hair) approach doesn't even work for them. The place almost feels like the people posting are just looking for some entertainment. I am just so pissed off that I involved myself in a debate with anyone who could actually believe what is being promoted at Getitback. I welcome others to waste their time to confirm my findings.
The one entertaining thing I read on the forum was in regards to another "treatment" known as "no spill". What is "no spill".....well it refers to another old wives tale, avoiding masturbation to battle hairloss. I know, it is shocking that a site that correlates shampoo (another old wives tale) to hairloss would ever correlate masturbation to hairloss....
Some of the people do talk about this Cutsinger guy like a prophet. It's very strange.
My approach moving forward is to treat this shampoo talk and all other old wives tales like I would treat the obnoxious kid in high school, I will ignore them. I guess these sort of situation are inevitable when one becomes part of an internet forum.

 

[Cutsinger is God]

It's not a penis you dildo. :wink:
I shouldn't imagine there'll be many children on here but I'll be more than happy to take it down if anyone that matters is offended, you're not going to be banned for your shampoo beliefs by the way, you'll be banned as you're a freaky oddball, the same reason that your real life is probably a lonely mess.

You are putting black penis' up on websites and my life is a mess. Sure ok there whatever you say. I am offended and please take it down. There is absolutely no need to put stuff like that up at a respectable site like this. Grow up!!

 

[Pondle]

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Some of the people do talk about this Cutsinger guy like a prophet. It's very strange.

Yeah I know - even though he's completely clueless about hair loss! :freaked:

The Internet truly is a random place.