Sick Of Seeing Idiots Claiming Nw2s Don't Have A Right To Complain

[Vesemir]

Since you're decent looking enough and have enough hair, go for it. Social activities are possible if you're average or above and are Norwood 2-3 and surely not if you're below average and above Norwood 3. I'm the living proof of it.

So you're saying you can't go out and enjoy life? Maybe people talk behind your back, but they will always be....

 

[SmoothSailing]

But you just cant take dating advice from a virgin. Its like taking dieting advice from an obese person.

Right but a bunch of 6+ guys are going to have theories that directly contradict a 3's experiences and aren't neccesarily helpful. "Just go on tinder.."

 

[Devop911]

Yes I'm saying that. Ugly, short, frail, pale and bald. Wherever I go people just stare at me with discomfort and amusement if I'm lucky. I've been living as a recluse for years now, except for the few times I have to go to social events, which are awful, especially with relatives and colleagues making rude remarks on my appearance and hair without even asking me if I'm alright or how I'm doing. They only care about how shitty I look.

I luv you

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Yea, that makes sense. I'm still losing ground after being a year on finasteride so it's easy to feel down and hard to feel good.

That makes sense - hair loss is tough because it pretty much always gets worse.

Since you're decent looking enough and have enough hair, go for it. Social activities are possible if you're average or above and are Norwood 2-3 and surely not if you're below average and above Norwood 3. I'm the living proof of it.

I like this - a good balanced view and it goes against the old theories that used to go on around here that said men had to be 8 out of 10 studs to get laid. You can be a 6 out of 10 guy with a nw3 and still get laid with average women.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Right but a bunch of 6+ guys are going to have theories that directly contradict a 3's experiences and aren't neccesarily helpful. "Just go on tinder.."

In fairness I did hold my hands up and said I made a mistake in giving that advice.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Dante just disliked my compliment???

 

[JohnsonDDG]

All legit 6/10s who were above Norwood 2 I've met were losers who couldn't get a woman. You, like many here, are not "average" at all, a picture would prove it. You're surely a 7/10 at least, and not even Norwood 3 as well. Surprise.

A 6/10 can't afford to be even Norwood 2, he needs hair in order not to fall in the subhumans category.

Ok, I'll post these pictures of my hairline - you guys judge.

Everyone else but dante say what Norwood I am (because dante wouldn't admit to me being anything but a nw2).

I'm 100% sure it looks better with hair than as a skin head because there is still density in the middle.

 

[CaptainForehead]

Social activities are possible if you're average or above and are Norwood 2-3 and surely not if you're below average and above Norwood 3.

I'm the living proof of it.

Your proof is incorrect.

 

[Dante92]

Your proof is incorrect.

And you think that because...?

 

[CaptainForehead]

And you think that because...?

Your proof goes like, 3 is not divisible by 2 therefore no number can be divisible by 2.

 

[Rudiger]

Yeah, I'm letting it go. No point discussing with @Rudiger . Just funny that he's literally the type of guy I was talking about earlier. Good looking and somehow thinks it's his personality that's the reason he's getting laid.

Ironic that he's arguing with half of the forum about subjects going no where for page after page and the only people who care are him and whoever he's harassing at the time. Standard aspie.

This is the big truth you've contributed here: really ugly guys can't get laid, really good looking guys can.

Well no sh*t, I only wrote that straight away.

Every other variable I brought up? Average introverted guys, 7s trying to pull other 7s but settling on 4s, all the ways that 80% of people are concerned with - most of us who are neither extremely ugly or extreme hot, you've got nothing to say to any of it. For nearly everyone personality is an important factor in deciding who you end up with, but all you focus on is Chad's and Incels, because it's easy.

I brought up how hard I've found it at times to chat to women and move things on, I've even had it where a girl seems very interested but when it comes to actually talking she completely flakes out, and sometimes you fight past it and often you fail.

But your internet experience tells me its all so easy. Well, sometimes it may be, most of the time not at all.

Don't get the run of yourself because your correct statement's are anything other than blindingly obvious. In trying to go any further than that you can't have a clue what you're talking about. And you can keep insisting you know what it's like for me or any other guy who's even a bit above average looking, but you clearly don't know.

I'm directly telling you from my own experience and many friends around the same playing field, the real world is different to your assumptions. Guys who aren't willing to apply themselves, risk rejection, keep somewhat persistent, they get nowhere unless they tick every aesthetic box (height, hair, face, build) but fine keep coping that you get nowhere and it's not your fault.

Other people have made a similar point to myself and expressed it better (partly because you did your best to move off in different tangents which did a good job of distracting me from the original point). Have you said sh*t to them about it?

No, you've got a weak argument based on very little experience and extreme examples, so it doesn't stand up, you like vaguely mentioning it but never can see it through.

There's currently a bunch of guys with very limited social and romantic experience running around the internet making blanket statements about dating based on dating app experiments with pictures of male models.. and little else essentially.

I know the main point goes off from this track (and I agree with that part too) but this bit rings particularly true for me right now.

Yep no doubt Tinder male models have a huge field of options to pick, but those guys are they even 5% of the population? 2%?

Yet despite how little relevance they hold generally, it's what guys on lookism etc spend nearly all their time discussing. It's either models or permacels, and as they and nearly every guy can't put themselves in the model bracket, they seek solitude and brotherhood in the black pill permacels community. You even see that proudness on here, and the hatred of "normies" (I'm not actually talking about Bateman here by the way, just because this post is attached to that).

It's transparent and the questioning of such attitudes normally results in irrational behaviour and taking it as a personal attack on their identity.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

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Yep no doubt Tinder male models have a huge field of options to pick, but those guys are they even 5% of the population? 2%?

Yet despite how little relevance they hold generally, it's what guys on lookism etc spend nearly all their time discussing. It's either models or permacels, and as they and nearly every guy can't put themselves in the model bracket, they seek solitude and brotherhood in the black pill permacels community. You even see that proudness on here, and the hatred of "normies" (I'm not actually talking about Bateman here by the way, just because this post is attached to that).

It's transparent and the questioning of such attitudes normally results in irrational behaviour and taking it as a personal attack on their identity.

I completely agree - I do find it hard to understand why they are so obsessed with the guys with the model good looks.

I find the guys who are average and do really well with women far more interesting. Take Fred for example, I would say he is roughly average in looks (maybe a 6), and yet he has slept with over 30 women. Same goes for me. Same goes for thousands of other men. I think people who aren't male models but still do well with women ought to be used as role models because that's who you can learn the most from.

 

[hairblues]

I completely agree - I do find it hard to understand why they are so obsessed with the guys with the model good looks.

I find the guys who are average and do really well with women far more interesting. Take Fred for example, I would say he is roughly average in looks (maybe a 6), and yet he has slept with over 30 women. Same goes for me. Same goes for thousands of other men. I think people who aren't male models but still do well with women ought to be used as role models because that's who you can learn the most from.

End of the day a 4 guy does not want a 4 woman.

Generally speaking most 4 guys are not going to get a 6 or higher.

Unless he is Harvey Weinstein.

Future Harvey Weinsteins are not worried about their looks to be honest, they are out hustling making mark on world...Some men really don't give a sh*t about their looks.
She is independently very wealthy btw so she is NOT a gold digger

 

[rclark]

Some people just love to blame baldness on their shortcomings. If you're past even early 20's, 23/24 years old, and you aren't completely baby faced, NW2 is fine, you definitely aren't seen as a bald guy, and if not diffused or island pattern forming, you aren't even seen as balding. Your main concern isn't being NW2, it's whether it gets worse from here (and for a lot of guys it doesn't, they stay at NW2, and if you're on treatments then you have a damn good chance).

So a guy talking about NW2 most likely can't get laid because of his looks or crappy personality, and if he is getting laid, then he's blaming baldness on why he doesn't get better looking women. And if he's getting the best looking women, then he's just insane and bored of slaying prime pussy.

ALL of my problems are due to hairloss. Don't know what you're talking about.

In fact, I BLAME YOU for my hair loss. ALL OF IT! How do you like that?

 

[rclark]

End of the day a 4 guy does not want a 4 woman.

Generally speaking most 4 guys are not going to get a 6 or higher.

Unless he is Harvey Weinstein.

Future Harvey Weinsteins are not worried about their looks to be honest, they are out hustling making mark on world...Some men really don't give a sh*t about their looks.
She is independently very wealthy btw so she is NOT a gold digger

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She must have visual problems. Has to.

So, she is rich??? Is she single and looking? (Just asking for some friends of mine....)

 

[SmoothSailing]

I completely agree - I do find it hard to understand why they are so obsessed with the guys with the model good looks.

I find the guys who are average and do really well with women far more interesting. Take Fred for example, I would say he is roughly average in looks (maybe a 6), and yet he has slept with over 30 women. Same goes for me. Same goes for thousands of other men. I think people who aren't male models but still do well with women ought to be used as role models because that's who you can learn the most from.

Fred is tall, I'm willing to bet you're above average facially. Not denying average guys can play with average girls, but don't underestimate what that little bit above average can do.

They are obsessed out of jealousy.

 

[rclark]

Fred is tall, I'm willing to bet you're above average facially. Not denying average guys can play with average girls, but don't underestimate what that little bit above average can do.

They are obsessed out of jealousy.

Yes, I am above average as a matter of fact.... I sound like the "Priveledged one" speaking like this.

 

[hairblues]

She must have visual problems. Has to.

So, she is rich??? Is she single and looking? (Just asking for some friends of mine....)

thats his wife and she has two kids with him.

She owns Marchesa fashion line.

 

[rclark]

thats his wife and she has two kids with him.

She owns Marchesa fashion line.

Wow.... she really DOESN'T care about looks. Who would of thought?

Is he really rich, or something of that nature?

 

[Rudiger]

I completely agree - I do find it hard to understand why they are so obsessed with the guys with the model good looks.

I find the guys who are average and do really well with women far more interesting. Take Fred for example, I would say he is roughly average in looks (maybe a 6), and yet he has slept with over 30 women. Same goes for me. Same goes for thousands of other men. I think people who aren't male models but still do well with women ought to be used as role models because that's who you can learn the most from.

But you're forgetting that these guys enjoy this cuckoldry.

I can understand the release of frustration and anger, and it spills out in odd ways. I don't see why some feel it's a great consistent release to focus on such an awful reality, as it applies to such a small amount of reality. I'm not saying there's no truth to it, just that it's extreme to immerse yourself in it, as sluthate lookism guys tend to.

So while you may see an average guy doing well as an inspiration, many just discard it as irrelevant- there is no average guy who creates chances for himself, it's 100% looks or forget it.

I'll agree that aesthetically some guys are just pushed out of the gene pool and that's obviously not fair. But as hairblues pointed out, a lot of 4/10 guys don't want to settle for looksmatching, the frustration that they have to try while a full head Chad can take away their emotional efforts at the drop of a hat, it's too much.

ALL of my problems are due to hairloss. Don't know what you're talking about.

In fact, I BLAME YOU for my hair loss. ALL OF IT! How do you like that?

A lot of guys can indeed blame all of their shortcomings on hair loss, just not average looking NW2s approaching mid-20s.