Social Skills And Your Looks.

[I.D WALKER]

Yes. I find it weird how guys think there are cheat codes you do use to get women. As a man I know I would never think of having sex with a woman I'm not attracted to. No matter what she does. Why do some men think women can be tricked into sex?

I may be mistaken, but I think we've (HairLossTalk.com) covered this ground already more than once in the past here?
If it's true that a woman generally has to be attracted to the man in the first place, then solely on a sexual level there is little more to it besides an random/accidental electrical discharge as a result of two exposed conduits,followed by flashover or "fireworks" and finally chemical combustion.

However a man's accessories and/or 'good grooming skills' and maybe along with his social aptitude/finesse, can not help but be perceived as a bonus in an interested woman's eyes. The man didn't necessarily have to change his presentation or delivery any to initiate coition ,
but it's possible in her mind that his "extra effects", whether conscious of it or not, improves her level of receptiveness to him.
If his additional features or "larger package" are indeed secondary,sexual influential factors for our average dame,
then in a subliminal twist of events, one could even say she was spurred on by her own mind's tomfoolery.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I think that in this forum extremes are very easily reached in discussions, for the same of argument.

I basically agree that most of what happens in your sexual interactions is defined by your genes. Science shows that women take just 180 seconds to reckon if they like you. And they do NOT change their mind

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ct-Women-just-minutes-make-mind-Mr-Right.html

I think that in those 180 seconds there WILL be cases in which a woman is undecided and you say something that surprises them and makes them think your genes are the right ones.

I believe it is a minority of cases. But I think there will be. The question is: is it worth to bet on these "fringe" cases?

Let's ignore that this is a social science study made to market a self-help book discussed in the daily mail ...

From the article:

They say you should never judge a book by its cover.

But when it comes to the opposite sex, it seems that's exactly what women do.

It takes a woman just three minutes to make up her mind about whether she likes a man or not, a study has revealed.

The average female spends the time sizing up looks, physique and dress-sense as well as taking in scent, accent and eloquence of a potential suitor.

Women also quickly judge how he interacts with her friends and whether he is successful or ambitious.

It also emerged most women believe 180 seconds is long enough to gauge whether or not he is Mr Right, or Mr Wrong.

The study also found women rarely change their mind about a man after their initial reaction - and believe they are 'always right' in their assumptions and judgments.

The report which was commissioned among 3,000 adults to mark the release of Instinct, a new book by Ben Kay.

Kay said: 'I think a lot of people believe in trusting their instincts when dating. It makes it seem more magical, like it's coming from somewhere deeper.

'But it's surprising how quickly women make a decision. That's barely enough time to finish a drink together.

'It's interesting that so many women trust their instincts and yet still give men the opportunity to change their minds.

'Some men might think this is leading them on but I would imagine most women just want to give every bloke a fair shot.'

Researchers found women will quickly dismiss a man who they feel is 'too cocky' or 'too needy'.

He will also be rejected if he isn't nice to people, doesn't appear to earn enough and if he has nothing in common with the woman.

The study also found most women trust their instincts and believe they came into play when they were playing attractive traits.

But despite this 88 per cent said their instincts were right and they should have trusted them.

Both men and women said they rely on their instincts when making decisions with

84 per cent admitting their instincts take precedence over everything else with important and life changing ones.

Forty five per cent said they often acted out of character when they met someone new and acted 'crazy' but that they trusted their instincts that they would be alright

So, from this likely-bogus study:

- Women admit they're wrong 12% of the time, which is a lot;
- Accent, eloquence, dress sense, professional success, all matter;
- Being nice to people matters;
- How you interact with her friends matters;
- Having things in common is good;
- Being too cocky or too needy are bad;

Doesn't matter though as i see no reason to think this study is credible.

 

[Roberto_72]

Let's ignore that this is a social science study made to market a self-help book discussed in the daily mail ...

From the article:



So, from this likely-bogus study:

- Women admit they're wrong 12% of the time, which is a lot;
- Accent, eloquence, dress sense, professional success, all matter;
- Being nice to people matters;
- How you interact with her friends matters;
- Having things in common is good;
- Being too cocky or too needy are bad;

Doesn't matter though as i see no reason to think this study is credible.

Yeah I know, I was laughing myself while citing the DAILY MAIL.

Have you however participated in a "speed date?" I did twice. It is fun. Because both you and the woman get the immediate impression you really would not need longer that those 3 minutes to understand if you like each other.

 

[xetudor]

"extra effects" still only work if there is attraction in the first place. A girl you find attractive can make you more horny for example if she does something you like but if a girl you find unattractive does the same thing you won't like it. I don't think are that different from males.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I did speed dating once, in Montreal.

I only matched with this sexy norwegian exchange student. But I only went because it was a psychological study, and they were giving out gifts to participants. I actually was starting a wonderful relationship that same week with a woman I considered far more beautiful than any of the 20 women at the speed dating event.

I never had any convenient speed dating opportunities in Canberra.

 

[I.D WALKER]

Overall I agree with your perspective that our attraction springs from the (starting) mark.
After all I respectfully doubt ( I hope not anyway) that any one here would want to engage in a
a highly speculative debate over the infinite number of possibilities how a woman could desire her chosen man
more.

 

[Dante92]

I did speed dating once, in Montreal.

I only matched with this sexy norwegian exchange student. But I only went because it was a psychological study, and they were giving out gifts to participants. I actually was starting a wonderful relationship that same week with a woman I considered far more beautiful than any of the 20 women at the speed dating event.

I never had any convenient speed dating opportunities in Canberra.

I see. No doubt it's all because of your great personality.

 

[blackg]

This forum is staring to sound more like "The impact of women".
.

Haha... That was good. I can forget ever forgeting about women when I jump on this forum.

 

[Rudiger]

Experienced guy here! None of these matter, hey I almost have nothing in common with my best friend, yet we get along so well, why? Genetic compatibility again.

Oh my god is anyone actually reading this right here?

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Another good example of sexuality being partly socially constructed , in addition to the previous examples of greater sexual interest in Caucasians, is our culture's emphasis on being thin.

Slim and muscular are now more favoured than they ever were in the past, which is clearly socially constructed. It wasn't true to this extent historically. In renaissance Italy, this is what they considered an exceptionally beautiful women, and today she wouldn't be considered that beautiful at all:

What's always been favoured, are certain waist-to-hip ratios (0.7 for women and 0.9 for men), youth, facial symmetry, and a few other attributes.

The way our culture emphasizes Caucasian features, slim and muscular builds ... that's socially constructed. And it's genuinely sexier and more attractive. The likely reason here is that Caucasian features, low body fat, high muscle mass, are all associated with higher socioeconomic class, which clearly very effectively perturbs what's considered sexy.

 

[F2005]

IMO, it's unusual to have best friends with whom you have nothing in common. With regards to all of my friends, I have something in common with all of them, whether it be metal music, American football, weight-lifting, or something else. Most of the time we've met through common activities, like at a rock show or at a football bar or at the gym.

I don't believe in this myth at all that there are ugly men walking around with attractive women all the time. I just don't see it. Virtually never. Like really does attract like and especially today's obsessively visual day and age, you just don't women getting all dolled up at the club (or anywhere) just to pursue an ugly guy. And even if this was true (which it isn't), what self-respecting man would want to walk around looking ugly (no matter how many women he may attract)? I sure wouldn't. And that really does prove that although our ability to get women remains one of our main issues with hair loss, the other main issue is that we just want to feel comfortable in our own skin and like the reflection that stares back at us in the mirror.

I really do believe that outer looks are first and foremost by a long shot when it comes to attracting women, especially today's young women. But I will say that common interests do play some kind of a role sometimes. For instance, there are very good-looking rock n roll guys who get the cream of the crop in the rock n roll scene, but mainstream women will say that they look ridiculous with their long hair. There was even a facebook group called Long-Haired Men and the Women Who Love Them. Rocker chicks would be all over this site yet mainstream women couldn't care less about a lot of these guys because they were not into long hair.

 

[AlexieJ]

But lots of times social skills are directly related to how good you feel about yourself. Before my problems with my hair loss, I was more outgoing, energetic, lively, and fun to be around. But when a person's looks are being destroyed, they tend to withdraw from society as they become more angry, depressed, and bitter. Furthermore, when a person feels good, they are prone to being more thoughtful, compassionate, funny, and outgoing. But when they feel bad, they tend to be more angry, withdrawn, and sad. One thing that I do agree with Spencer Kobren on is that how we look has a direct correlation to how we feel. And how we feel has a direct correlation with our actions.

I agree with you. Usually whenever people suffer from hair loss it affects their totality in a way. They tend to become depressed and their self-esteem become low. Anyway, those who suffer from hair loss should have to understand that there are solutions that they can try and they should not lose hope.

 

[Rudiger]

It's hard to find a person in your locality in which you have NOTHING in common with.

Argument null void.

 

[DPAMan]

Experienced guy here! None of these matter, hey I almost have nothing in common with my best friend, yet we get along so well, why?

In that case, what do you two talk about? What do you do?

 

[I.D WALKER]

In that case, what do you two talk about? What do you do?

It's nice to see you posting again. I hope you've been holding your own since you last checked in.

 

[DPAMan]

It's nice to see you posting again. I hope you've been holding your own since you last checked in.

Thanks. Everything's been alright on the male pattern baldness front aside from when I had to shave my head completely not too long ago. Hoping the same on your end.

 

[I.D WALKER]

I'm glad for you DPman.
My head's been shaved also, but I think you may have
a better handle on the adaptation side of male pattern baldness than me ( I hope so).
Stay well my friend.