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[xetudor]

I disagree. A good hair transplant can transform someone's appearance immeasurably. Hair has a much bigger cosmetic impact than breast enlargement imo.

It's true if there is enough hair to begin with but it's not going to make a NW7 look like a rockstar.

 

[Dench57]

It's true if there is enough hair to begin with but it's not going to make a NW7 look like a rockstar.

You'd be surprised what a mega FUT with a top surgeon can do. Of course at this stage its gonna cost more than $10,000 but I still think good hair transplants can transform someone's appearance in a way that few other cosmetic surgeries can.

Check out some of Hasson and Wong's before/afters. Look at this guy for example. From subhuman serial killer to stone cold stud. Dude has gone up like 4 points and looks 10 years younger.

 

[Rudiger]

^I mean ****, I'm a decent responder less than 1 year into the big 3 (just minoxidil before that) and I'm oddly proud and want to see where it goes, but whenever I see pictures like that I want to look at my bank balance and just go screw it why not.

It's actually probably why I avoid looking at before/after pictures of hair transplant's, unless they're botched.

Damn, if you click the "Compare Before & After" option on that link which brings up the slider pictures, the side view one is killing me right now. My thin fringe from side view looks horrendous.

 

[Dench57]

^I mean ****, I'm a decent responder less than 1 year into the big 3 (just minoxidil before that) and I'm oddly proud and want to see where it goes, but whenever I see pictures like that I want to look at my bank balance and just go screw it why not.

It's actually probably why I avoid looking at before/after pictures of hair transplant's, unless they're botched.

On the contrary, I find a certain measure of comfort looking at results like this, so I can tell myself that I'll never be fully bald, there's always redemption in the megasession hair transplants. Of course you can't guarantee results like this, but its nice to dream.

 

[I.D WALKER]

Looks remarkable nonetheless,
still it seems to me anyway, his makeup artist got a little heavy handed with the Toppik.

 

[Saurabhaj]

Hasson and wong does FUT..

Scar producing operation.

Strict NO...NO for me..
FUE may also scar still.

 

[Dench57]

Hasson and wong does FUT..

Scar producing operation.

Strict NO...NO for me..
FUE may also scar still.

They do FUE as well but yes, mostly FUT. The scar sucks, but I'd take a scar on the back of my head for a full head of hair anyday.

 

[xetudor]

You'd be surprised what a mega FUT with a top surgeon can do. Of course at this stage its gonna cost more than $10,000 but I still think good hair transplants can transform someone's appearance in a way that few other cosmetic surgeries can.

Check out some of Hasson and Wong's before/afters. Look at this guy for example. From subhuman serial killer to stone cold stud. Dude has gone up like 4 points and looks 10 years younger.

That looks excellent but I don't really believe it. It looks too good, almost like a cure for hair loss.

Offtopic, Brexit or not?

 

[Rudiger]

On the contrary, I find a certain measure of comfort looking at results like this, so I can tell myself that I'll never be fully bald, there's always redemption in the megasession hair transplants. Of course you can't guarantee results like this, but its nice to dream.

I get that and sometimes feel the same but i just never want to make that leap. I like to dream that my good response to regimens will speed up in the next year and I'll be much closer to a full head of hair.

Maybe thats crazy but hey it's a dream. More realistically I know I'll be getting a hair transplant in the next 5 years when I face up to the fact pills and foam will never get me near what I want, or they'll stop working.

As for those saying the hair transplant pics are too good to be true/toppik, perhaps but consider the dude had nothing but a few strands before, if he returned to any coverage at all, even thin, it's pretty damn successful.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

The reason the pic looks too good to be true is likely simply that H&W are posting a picture of their most successful surgery.

 

[Dench57]

The reason the pic looks too good to be true is likely simply that H&W are posting a picture of their most successful surgery.

Yeah it is one of their most successful, but look through the other before/afters, every single one is a huge cosmetic improvement. Of course, there will be underwhelming results too which they won't post. But if you have the money, and go to a top clinic such as H&W, I'd say your chances of getting a good result are high.

 

[CaptainForehead]

Yeah it is one of their most successful, but look through the other before/afters, every single one is a huge cosmetic improvement. Of course, there will be underwhelming results too which they won't post. But if you have the money, and go to a top clinic such as H&W, I'd say your chances of getting a good result are high.

The clinic says that that person was extraordinary: he had a very high donor density.

 

[cocohot]

I think all humans rationally know that behaviour and intelligence are largely genetic, we can get that by seeing similarities between parents and children, and that people are not completely malleable. There is a human nature, and geniuses are typically different from an early age. People have also done experiments where they tried to teach words to animals or raise a chimp as a human, it doesn't work, both environment and nature matter.

The bolded is "I'm right because I say I'm right". What follows is conjecture and not science. The state of the science, at least for the moment, is that unlike male pattern baldness or heigh for example there is no data linking of any genes at all to any mental illness.

Finally, I want to reiterate that what people refer to as genetics should often be referred to as biology. For example, what your mother consumes during pregnancy will impact your intelligence and your looks, that impacts you biologically, but it's not your genetics, for example fetal alcohol syndrome. FAS is not a "choice", an individual with FAS cannot "grow past it" as cocohot might suggest, but it has nothing to do with the person's genetics.

Nueroplasticity would suggest otherwise wouldn't it? Science shows that if you work on cognitive skills like your memory or your social skills that section of the brain will literally grow like a muscle.







I think all rational people know that someone who goes through trauma is far more likely to develop mental illness. Wouldn't you agree? EG nervous breakdowns, PTSD etc? Maybe the environment is the crucial factor with all mental illnesses? You have to at least consider it, and if you or anyone else has aspergers you should act on the basis that you simply have bad social skills from lack of practice and this can be fixed by making friends and finding a peer group. Even if turns out someday that aspergers is genetic you will still improve your social skills and your life in general hugely by not being defeatist.

Just take schizophrenics (a disease lots think of as completely biological) as an example. There is no gene at all associated with schizophrenia and schizophrenics with lots of good friends have far higher chances of making a complete recovery. Look it up. Clearly environment is huge and genetics are not as big a factor as you and many others think.

 

[I.D WALKER]

I'll take it and be happy.

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H & W's star customer's hair transplant that is and not schizophrenia.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

The bolded is "I'm right because I say I'm right". What follows is conjecture and not science. The state of the science, at least for the moment, is that unlike male pattern baldness or heigh for example there is no data linking of any genes at all to any mental illness.



Nueroplasticity would suggest otherwise wouldn't it? Science shows that if you work on cognitive skills like your memory or your social skills that section of the brain will literally grow like a muscle.







I think all rational people know that someone who goes through trauma is far more likely to develop mental illness. Wouldn't you agree? EG nervous breakdowns, PTSD etc? Maybe the environment is the crucial factor with all mental illnesses? You have to at least consider it, and if you or anyone else has aspergers you should act on the basis that you simply have bad social skills from lack of practice and this can be fixed by making friends and finding a peer group. Even if turns out someday that aspergers is genetic you will still improve your social skills and your life in general hugely by not being defeatist.

Just take schizophrenics (a disease lots think of as completely biological) as an example. There is no gene at all associated with schizophrenia and schizophrenics with lots of good friends have far higher chances of making a complete recovery. Look it up. Clearly environment is huge and genetics are not as big a factor as you and many others think.

You didn't address and likely didn't understand any of the points I brought up.

 

[cocohot]

You didn't address and likely didn't understand any of the points I brought up.

Any of them? Pretty sure I addressed your fetal alcohol point? The rest was argument and conjecture, when you have data linking specific genes to mental illnesses then you have science, anything short of this is no better than homeopathy.

 

[Exodus2011]

but david they're having a hard time even LINKING certain genes to mental disorders. coco is right from what i've searched. find out for yourself man.

 

[F2005]

Thanks for that F2005. I see it your way also.
I can only guess that like minded guys like Mr. David believe they are exempt from moral responsibility and their locked in viewer support base and high Nielsen ratings have both given them license/ carte blanche to overplay the comic card or what essentially amounts to a free pass from balanced, ethical conduct.
I should not be surprised as an effected and affected member of an ever pervasive self enveloping culture, where public mockery and deceit is applauded, and 'more money' is still the raging mantra and over prescribed panacea for all societal ills, yet I am surprised and feel depressed that we are still expected to smile and take it while seeking comic relief that vilifies our affliction(s) rather than nullifies them.

You really could make a living as a writer, and I wouldn't be surprised if you did. I just simply think a guy like Larry David is chickensh*t. He goes after baldness because it is easy and because there will be no backlash from it. Moreover, he does it in a self-deprecating way and we all know that a person will receive MUCH less backlash if they make fun of themselves rather than some one else. Similar to how if some one disses their own ethnicity, it is all fine and well, but if some one disses another race or gender, they will be vilified for it. Hell, if Larry David didn't diss himself constantly, I'm not sure he'd be able to make a living. I've got much more respect for comedians like Chris Rock or Bill Maher. They cover subjects that are taboo and controversial, and often go against mainstream thought. Chris Rock and Bill Maher are ballsy, Larry David is just a dishrag.

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You'd be surprised what a mega FUT with a top surgeon can do. Of course at this stage its gonna cost more than $10,000 but I still think good hair transplants can transform someone's appearance in a way that few other cosmetic surgeries can.

Check out some of Hasson and Wong's before/afters. Look at this guy for example. From subhuman serial killer to stone cold stud. Dude has gone up like 4 points and looks 10 years younger.

I'll admit that that result looks amazing, but unfortunately I believe that it is far from the norm. For every result like the one you linked, I see sooooo many others where a guy goes from having a bald head to a sparse, thin coating of old man style hair. I'll admit though that Hasson & Wong are the best when it comes to hair transplant's (them and Rahal). Some of the others, some of which are just lauded on the other forum; their results do not impress me much at all. And even guys like Hasson & Wong are only posting their best results. I'd do an hair transplant in a second if it could grant me close to a full head of hair, but unfortunately an hair transplant cannot even provide anything close to that. And then there are the other complications too, like the scarring, the need to get multiple surgeries, and most often the commitment to taking finasteride (which gives many men side effects, including myself). I believe these are some of the reasons why only like 5% or less of hair loss sufferers even get hair transplant's.

 

[I.D WALKER]

You're not only pluralistically talented F2005, but also very generous.
I'll try hard to accept your compliment. -)

It's funny you mention Maher because it just so happens I've been catching up on some of his earlier episodes. I find his overall perspective refreshing and particularly relate to his contempt for news networks like MSNBC for instance who shamelessly promote themselves as highbrow, substantive, commentarial fact tellers.

The key element of his performance(comedy) is an evocative example of how educators/students can mnemonically profit by their savoir faire implementation of humor in the classroom.