Stemson is going to use minipigs in the next stage of their hair cloning research

[eeyore]

KY as in the compound? That would have just grown existing follicles. Same with A Cristiano, they took existing follicle cells and supplemented them with growth agents and a 3d printed bridge to grow follicles, but you needed the follicle in the first place. Even Tsuji said he would need to extract a certain amount of follicles to clone them.

Stemson grew hair from pure stem cells, which is why they said they can do this with just blood and not a follicle extraction.

Ah, that seems even more groundbreaking than I had originally thought, then. I believe in their science but still assumed they were just another company to grow hair on mice.

There's no chance that they're lying about what they did is there? Like they can't just take existing hair cells and legally say they were made through a blood draw and their cell conversion process?

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Didn't Aderans/Intercytex do something similar back then!? I'm confused.

 

[Doingitright]

looks like hairy bacon is back on the menu

 

[Pls_NW-1]

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/new-study-using-stem-cells-to-grow-new-hair.90353/#post-1222654

It's funny reading all these old threads and posts. Back then in 2017, Alexey said he could cure baldness, but nobody wants to fund him, sounds like the Tsuji scenario, and now he gets all the money he can get...
Time will tell for sure but we shouldn't hold our breath for it. Lol!

 

[Armando Jose]

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/new-study-using-stem-cells-to-grow-new-hair.90353/post-1222926

January 2015 Incredible

 

[Pls_NW-1]

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/new-study-using-stem-cells-to-grow-new-hair.90353/post-1222926

January 2015 Incredible

Crazy... I'm kinda shoked and afraid this all will go nowhere...

 

[Lurker85]

My belief is that we figure out our own way to fight hair loss or we go completely bald. Currently we have methods to stop or at least slow down the process and reverse miniaturization in some cases. I honestly believe there is a higher chance of us stumbling upon something that gives regrowth before one of these labs gets something to market.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Don't agree, enough transplants where patients have great results for crown area. Unless you want your teenage density of course...

And Zarev looks legit untill now, I also thought some guys from this forum are going for a transplant there when everything opens up again.

Honestly, transplants look good when you cut your hair short, but if you are going to wear it long, like I do, to-/under my ears, it would look horrible, especially if you have fine hair naturally (case: you are a NW7), because the density is lacking and all the hair would lay flat on the scalp or wispy-ish flying in the air lol, just no.

Better shaving off than going for a transplant in such cases. I would recommend doing transplants if your final Norwood is a 3-4. If you are destined to be a NW7, try to stop it with meds and only then go for a transplant, if you are still on the lower norwood scales.

Till then, only hair multiplication might be the real deal for severe balding cases, and yet, we don't know IF they even work.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

"Meanwhile maybe you should join the Stemson circle jerk and get off on pigs growing back their hair."

Lol

 

[eeyore]

It's been a week and they haven't reposted the job listing for a histotechnician, looks like they found their guy.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

if Stemson fails, there will be no hair cloning for the next 10 years. There is no other company that is currently promising.

Don't forget that this *might* not be effective for Androgenetic Alopecia, but more for people with burned skin or scars.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

I do believe that it will work for aa. But you probably have to repeat it every few years

Or you do the procedure and take anti androgens for the rest of your life till they figure out how to do androgen resistant follicles.

Can't wait for their pig studies.

 

[H]

Or you do the procedure and take anti androgens for the rest of your life till they figure out how to do androgen resistant follicles.

Can't wait for their pig studies.

If they multiply hair primarily from the back of your head where they are generally dht resistant that would seem to take care of the problem for most.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

If they multiply hair primarily from the back of your head where they are generally dht resistant that would seem to take care of the problem for most.

And sadly this is not happening. They just can't, that's I think as well why Tsuji had problems in his method in the past with the cell amplyfing and then differentiation. It seems that it is easier to do so if you use IPScells, like Stemson does. Allogenic transplants would be amazing.

 

[H]

Has Stemson mentioned anything of price I dont remember them ever having?

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Has Stemson mentioned anything of price I dont remember them ever having?

In the last zoom meeting they mentioned that people waste 50k for transplants... I would use this as a reference. Price might be about the 5 to 6 figure range, Ig it depends on the coverage you need.

 

[H]

In the last zoom meeting they mentioned that people waste 50k for transplants... I would use this as a reference. Price might be about the 5 to 6 figure range, Ig it depends on the coverage you need.

Ya that's basically in Tsuji territory too bad almost unattainable for the normal person. Hopefully it comes out anyway but I dont have much hope is either Stemson or Tsuji to release anything.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

Ya that's basically in Tsuji territory too bad almost unattainable for the normal person. Hopefully it comes out anyway but I dont have much hope is either Stemson or Tsuji to release anything.

Good point! We should just wait and see. No reason to hold our breath for 'em.

 

[trialAcc]

Don't forget that this *might* not be effective for Androgenetic Alopecia, but more for people with burned skin or scars.

They quote AA as their primary market.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

They quote AA as their primary market.

Yes because >90% of hair loss sufferers (man and woman) suffer from AA.

They are the biggest group, their *target group*.

Don't get me wrong, but from the science papers we gathered till now, this will give us potentially new hair *AND* our job is to maintain it. Pretty sad for the people who can't tolerate AA's (anymore) or who don't want to.

I hope that I am totally wrong and that they will update and release more data after they further extend their R&D, meaning of the fact, that the follicles de novo are actually hormone in-sensible.

Fingers crossed!