Stemson is going to use minipigs in the next stage of their hair cloning research

froggy7

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
210
Stemson hasn't solved all the problems they thought they had when they started experimenting on pigs. There's no telling how long it will take them to figure it out, but they are well funded so there's a better chance they succeed than intercytex. Tsuji's approach is more fleshed out, and he is almost certain now to be the first to grow new hair on a human head. If you're not very rich just forget about hair cloning.
the problem is that Tsuji has collapsed underground and it is unknown if his hair cloning project will ever be tested on humans
 

pegasus2

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
4,512
the problem is that Tsuji has collapsed underground and it is unknown if his hair cloning project will ever be tested on humans
Why is that a problem when you probably won't be able to afford it anyway
 

froggy7

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
210
Why is that a problem when you probably won't be able to afford it anyway
this is not a subject to consider whether I can afford it or not, the question is whether Tsuji has a ready product for human testing, knows that his hair will be permanent, how to control the color, thickness of the hair, and a surgeon would probably be needed for this procedure like traditional transplant, they didn't plan on doing it with a robot like stemson?
 

pegasus2

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
4,512
this is not a subject to consider whether I can afford it or not, the question is whether Tsuji has a ready product for human testing, he knows that his hair will be permanent, he knows how to control the color, thickness of the hair, and a surgeon would probably be needed for this procedure like traditional transplant, they didn't plan on doing it with a robot like stemson?
Kyocera was developing a machine to do it. I don't know the status of that
 

werefckd

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
595
the problem is that Tsuji has collapsed underground and it is unknown if his hair cloning project will ever be tested on humans
Exactly, some people here insist to put Tsuji ahead of Stemson despite the fact that Tusji went bust and is not even in the race anymore, lol.
 

froggy7

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
210
Exactly, some people here insist to put Tsuji ahead of Stemson despite the fact that Tusji went bust and is not even in the race anymore, lol.
yes true, but as far as i know Tsuji is ready for human trials, Stemson is still far away
 

werefckd

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
595
yes true, but as far as i know Tsuji is ready for human trials, Stemson is still far away
Yes he kind of declared we was ready for human trials, despite the fact that there is no record of him ever doing pre clinical studies, that he has no company, no dedicated team, and that he has no money for the project and is asking for donations.

Sure he is ready for clinical trials, just like J. Hewitt was ready too, lol
 

froggy7

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
210
Yes he kind of declared we was ready for human trials, despite the fact that there is no record of him ever doing pre clinical studies, that he has no company, no dedicated team, and that he has no money for the project and is asking for donations.

Sure he is ready for clinical trials, just like J. Hewitt was ready too, lol
the research lasted several years, he started earlier than Stemson, besides, Tsuji's approach guarantees dht resistant hair, Stemson doesn't even think about it yet, he just focuses on creating hair
 

pegasus2

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
4,512
Yes he kind of declared we was ready for human trials, despite the fact that there is no record of him ever doing pre clinical studies, that he has no company, no dedicated team, and that he is asking for donations.

Sure he is ready for clinical trials, just like J. Hewitt was ready too, lol
None of us have a horse in this race, so I don't understand why you are acting like this. It doesn't matter to me if Tsuji or Alexey restores my hair, I just want hair.
 

froggy7

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
210
None of us have a horse in this race, so I don't understand why you are acting like this. It doesn't matter to me if Tsuji or Alexey restores my hair, I just want hair.
good point, but having competition will affect the price
 

werefckd

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
595
Look guys if you want to fantasize about what Tsuji could do with no company, no dedicated team and no funding then that's ok.

I particularly prefer to not delude myself and focus on Stemson because hair cloning is a complex problem and they are currently the only ones that have a company in place, a great and growing team, top tier investors and money in the bank to solve that.
 

scientist_0005

Banned
My Regimen
Reaction score
122
who in their right mind would believe any investor would wait 20 years for an investment to come to fruition? people on hair loss forums always gravitate to the extremes. either they think in completely unrealistic terms like "2020 tsuji human trial and one year later we can fly there and its over" vs "20, no, 30 years! " why not 60 years? you know what, lets just say 80. 80 years if everything goes well, if not 120.then why even waste precious time and life in this thread? this is so far into the future, you might not even be alive. in fact if you are 30 today, the chance that you will be dead in 20 years while still low is much higher than what would suit most. so why focus on a potential cure when it will never come? to the people so overly pessimistic about time and cost
 

froggy7

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
210
cant you shut up with you overly negative pessimistic uninformed comments already? this is so annoying.
as a guy after 30 I see that I will be late for new good things, so I am seriously considering cryonics, I would like a new beautiful body
 

froggy7

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
210
who in their right mind would believe any investor would wait 20 years for an investment to come to fruition? people on hair loss forums always gravitate to the extremes. either they think in completely unrealistic terms like "2020 tsuji human trial and one year later we can fly there and its over" vs "20, no, 30 years! " why not 60 years? you know what, lets just say 80. 80 years if everything goes well, if not 120.then why even waste precious time and life in this thread? this is so far into the future, you might not even be alive. in fact if you are 30 today, the chance that you will be dead in 20 years while still low is much higher than what would suit most. so why focus on a potential cure when it will never come? to the people so overly pessimistic about time and cost
Stemson is still in the preclinical research phase, I don't really know how to make my hair dht resistant and looking natural, but I agree that it won't take 30 years or even 20 because there will simply be no investors for it and the company will end up like intercytex
 
Top