Stemson is going to use minipigs in the next stage of their hair cloning research

[Pls_NW-1]

who in their right mind would believe any investor would wait 20 years for an investment to come to fruition? people on hair loss forums always gravitate to the extremes. either they think in completely unrealistic terms like "2020 tsuji human trial and one year later we can fly there and its over" vs "20, no, 30 years! " why not 60 years? you know what, lets just say 80. 80 years if everything goes well, if not 120.then why even waste precious time and life in this thread? this is so far into the future, you might not even be alive. in fact if you are 30 today, the chance that you will be dead in 20 years while still low is much higher than what would suit most. so why focus on a potential cure when it will never come? to the people so overly pessimistic about time and cost

1. I haven't said that Stemson will need 30 years to complete. By my line I wanted to say that Stemson could very probably fail. And by the 30 years, I meant, that hair loss will be very differently treated.

2. Yes, and that's the reason why I don't bother with this much. Either it come some day, or not.

Anyways, sorry for hurting some feelings.

 

[froggy7]

1. I haven't said that Stemson will need 30 years to complete. By my line I wanted to say that Stemson could very probably fail. And by the 30 years, I meant, that hair loss will be very differently treated.

2. Yes, and that's the reason why I don't bother with this much. Either it come some day, or not.

Anyways, sorry for hurting some feelings.

agree, in 30 years people wont need hair cloning, there will be better methods of eliminating baldness, and no one will create a solution for grandparents like us

 

[Pls_NW-1]

agree, in 30 years people wont need hair cloning, there will be better methods of eliminating baldness, and no one will create a solution for grandparents like us

I mean, hair cloning could very well being fleshed out by then, or as well not and we will have better pharmaceuticals by then.

Well, Stemson even said by themselves that they could use their produced hair as a research object for pharmaceuticals.

Didn't they say that they're working on a product 3, a pharmaceutical to keep the DP cells intact?
I remember reading that in their presentation back then.

 

[froggy7]

Hair cloning will always be the real deal to fix it .

no one will finance the research for 30 years

 

[Pls_NW-1]

no one will finance the research for 30 years

Yeah thats why we have companies popping out every 10 years making the progress in this field

 

[froggy7]

Yeah thats why we have companies popping out every 10 years making the progress in this field

so You think stemson 10 years, then rip and another big player? etc

 

[Pls_NW-1]

so You think stemson 10 years, then rip and another big player? etc

If they fail, yes. If they succed, more companies like stemson could pop up after patent runs out etc.

 

[scientist_0005]

plsnw1 i think most of what you say is quite idiotic with all due respect

 

[soull]

who in their right mind would believe any investor would wait 20 years for an investment to come to fruition? people on hair loss forums always gravitate to the extremes. either they think in completely unrealistic terms like "2020 tsuji human trial and one year later we can fly there and its over" vs "20, no, 30 years! " why not 60 years? you know what, lets just say 80. 80 years if everything goes well, if not 120.then why even waste precious time and life in this thread? this is so far into the future, you might not even be alive. in fact if you are 30 today, the chance that you will be dead in 20 years while still low is much higher than what would suit most. so why focus on a potential cure when it will never come? to the people so overly pessimistic about time and cost

Not only investing for 30 years, but for example, Tsuji may be 45-50 years old. I don't think he's 75-80 years old researching ...

 

[froggy7]

There diffrent approuch to solve haircloning , some of them are faster, the university Yokohama found cheaper way to create the hairs and the clinical trails are set to 2023.

and again once 1 companys make it you would see a flood of new companys and it would be way easier to get investors. New and faster approuch would be invented . In every tech once the solution is out there the advanced of the process is acclreating 4x,8x somtime.

does Yokohama have a patent on how to control the thickness and color of hair? will they use a robot to place the hair follicles in the patients' skin?

 

[froggy7]

Yokohama and Fukuda Hair Multiplication Trials in 2023 | Hair Loss Cure 2020

Yokohama National University's hair loss research is led by Dr. Junji Fukuda and Dr. Tatsutu Kageyama. The Japanese team is creating new hair follicle germs.

www.hairlosscure2020.com

they are writing that ipsc cells can be carcinogenic
I have not seen anything about hair thickness and color control in their method

 

[froggy7]

If you google them you would find a pic of the mice that grew hair from their expriment. By far looked the best compare to other companys , there were no weird bumps in the sking in the hair look quite good , and i think that controling that is less of problem of you solved the rest of the things

yes, but they do not have a partner to commercialize their solution

 

[froggy7]

Who care! Once the clinical trails are good they will find partner easily

yes, but who will conduct this clinical trial, where will they get the funding?

 

[froggy7]

For hair cloning you can do trails with like 5-10 ppl . Its not big deal.

one question - are thery ready for human trials?

 

[froggy7]

They aim for 2023. Meaning in around 2-1.5 years they spouse to start.

interesting, if they can control hair color and direction, okay, maybe they can do it?

 

[Ghc]

This interview was quite positive, I can't see what's bad in there to cause retarded pessimistic comments about 30+ years?

 

[froggy7]

This interview was quite positive, I can't see what's bad in there to cause retarded pessimistic comments about 30+ years?

i wouldnt say that, they dont know how to create dht resisitant hair

 

[froggy7]

This interview was quite positive, I can't see what's bad in there to cause retarded pessimistic comments about 30+ years?

"
1. They still need to learn how to control the hair quality.
2. The hair is still not dht restitent
3. They probbly know how to do it “by hands” but they trying to find a way to scale this thing up.
4. The hair probbly dosent survive many cycle which is the part he mention is chalenge not to lose the cells the produce the hair, which is way you saw the hair on mice but who know how many cycle the hair survived… "

 

[Ghc]

i wouldnt say that, they dont know how to create dht resisitant hair

Not that important at all, if you have unlimited source of hair who cares if it is dht resistant.

 

[froggy7]

Not that important at all, if you have unlimited source of hair who cares if it is dht resistant.

how do you imagine it go bald every few years and do hair cloning again?