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Is this because they aren't androgen-isnensitive follicles? I mean, if you still get decent/amazing results, I can't complain.
Stemson is going to use minipigs in the next stage of their hair cloning research
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Yes. Notice that this quote is from one of the earliest studies, when they were still using human embryonic stem cells (hESC). They have switched to human iPSC for a while now, they work the same for what they want to do, have less regulatory problems and stigma, and are more practical.
Stemson target UK for expansion of research and development – with backing of impact investor Fortunis Capital : Stemson Therapeutics
A Radical Solution for Hair Growth
"Funding from impact investor Fortunis will support research and development of the product solution and position the UK as a leading contender to conduct human clinical trials, including the construction of a clinical manufacturing facility."
They are legit. Their approach, if it ends up working, will be able to potentially restore a slick bald NW7 into a NW0 with full density. We still don't now if the "cloned" hairs will be hormone sensible or not, but since they are bio engineering the new hairs from scratch I would bet anything is possible.
And Stemson is the only shot we have for a de facto cure so pray for them.
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The minipig represents a huge step from the mice model. Minipigs have scalps that work more closely to humans, and it's where they will develop and test and perfect many different protocols and hopefully pick the right one that is going to be used in humans in the clinical trials. It's called pre clinical trials for a reason - totally different than experimenting on mice.
On mice it was just a proof of concept, the hair looked "natural" but not really. The minipigs will be the actually ones getting a real looking human hair (hopefully), with the protocol that will be later used on human beings.
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It's never too late.
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Seems like those hair will be like the ones you had when you were a baby, in theory. So they probably arent that "old" to be thaaat androgen sensitive. Every 10-15 years sounds plausible. What if you just do stemson and then maintain with finasteride and other stuff. That sounds pretty good.
I feel like the next decades will give us some new stuff.
finally, there is something more to restore your hair besides HRT lol
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Yes. Nowadays people live up to their 100's years. And when you are 60 you just hit half of your life lol so whats wrong with having hair with the other half haha
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And HRT has given me a decade back in terms of concomitant health improvements. We are all going to be refining our bodies and minds going forward more or less like Huxley predicted in Brave New World. I find it a thrilling time to be alive.Yes. Nowadays people live up to their 100's years. And when you are 60 you just hit half of your life lol so whats wrong with having hair with the other half haha
The studies with minipigs is the last step before we see people getting cloned hair. It won't take long for us to find out if Stemson is succeeding or not as this stage is crucial.
In 2 years from now tops we will be able to know.
In 2 years from now tops we will be able to know.
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Well... thats the power of estrogens = rejuvination. No joke.
Myb I will consider bite the bullet as well, as I get older haha
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I hope that this new stemson treatment will give you such a natural look, that people, who don't know you, wouldn't think you suffered of Androgenetic Alopecia. That would really be like a dream would come true, and I would pay for this dream a lot to become true
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There is a fact that hairs have a finite cycles, Do these new hair have that information?
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If you create completely new follicles, the new follicles should actually be like the ones made when you were in your mothers womb lol. Isn't that correct?! I wonder if this treatment will allow people have hair again, due to age, or even give old ladies and men hair back with juvenile texture, density and pigmentation.
That would be sick, ngl
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+1, but the ones made when you were in your mothers womb are different from Stemson, they used postembrionic cells.
https://www.semanticscholar.org/pap...868cf7f0f772a6ce646d50f5d696c3783886/figure/3
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Rip, so that means they will align to the old follicles' cycle? And not work as completely new bioengenired follicles?
If so... then... that wont help much with Androgenetic Alopecia xD
What? No, because these follicles would be alive...and probably DHT resistant if I had to guess. The only characteristic they would probably share with your native hair is the color. The density and texture would be new.
Ah, guess I was being too pessimistic, it makes sense when you put it like that. If they plan to do many trials and perfect the technique then $15M and 3-5 years of preclinical seems reasonable.
Can you also elaborate on why you think using IPS cells could lead to less regulatory roadblocks as opposed to ES cells?
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Stemson didnt say they will be androgen resistant. Why will they be if they carry the same transcriptome i don't think it will be. But they said their technology can have allogenic applications one day.
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yes I’m not really worried about that like other people because you will have unlimited grafts Within 1-2 year we will know if this technology works
It has barely been 1 decade since the Nobel prize winner who derive human iPSC.
I don’t think tsuji failed. But they are set back many years now because of their partner suspending business