The Mistake of Neglecting Hair Loss

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I knew I was balding pretty early in the process. Honestly, I remember the day I first saw something "a little off" about my hair. Misinformation and ignorance screwed me over big time. It just frustrating because I have read so many stories like mine, or others that could have been helped if they did the right thing early.

How many threads will be created today that read "I am losing my hair, but don't want to take finasteride or minoxidil, which vitamins should I take to slow this down?"
 

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I knew I was balding pretty early in the process. Honestly, I remember the day I first saw something "a little off" about my hair. Misinformation and ignorance screwed me over big time. It just frustrating because I have read so many stories like mine, or others that could have been helped if they did the right thing early.

How many threads will be created today that read "I am losing my hair, but don't want to take finasteride or minoxidil, which vitamins should I take to slow this down?"

I wish I knew about the 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors back in 2009 when my male pattern baldness started. I only knew about topical Minoxidil and used it. Fortunately it slowed my thinning drastically. Though unfortunately, my male pattern baldness got even stronger in 2014 and that's when I lost a noticeable amount of hair. I didn't even know about better treatments options until last year. Being ignorant and misinformed about better treatment options cost me quite a bit of hair. All I can do now is wait and see how it goes since I've only been on Dutasteride for two and a half months.

There's so many men that are completely serious on treating their male pattern baldness, but yet, many of them don't even want to take Finasteride because of the possible side effects and the people that scare them from taking the medication.

When natural treatment options are brought up for Androgenetic Alopecia, I lose interest immediately. When someone ask about natural treatments options for Androgenetic Alopecia, I basically just have to say "Well, sorry. Nothing natural works, at least to our knowledge.". It's pretty upsetting if you really think about it.
 

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I knew I was balding pretty early in the process. Honestly, I remember the day I first saw something "a little off" about my hair. Misinformation and ignorance screwed me over big time. It just frustrating because I have read so many stories like mine, or others that could have been helped if they did the right thing early.

How many threads will be created today that read "I am losing my hair, but don't want to take finasteride or minoxidil, which vitamins should I take to slow this down?"

I mean even if there was a way to just "slow it down" Id be happy. If I went into my 50s with a perfect head of hair to lose it in like a month Id be happy. finasteride and minoxidil are never fool proof. Honestly minoxidil I wonder if it even does anything or were all just too afraid to stop. I mean most people admit they dont REALLY know how it works.
finasteride gave me to many sides after a long and positive use of 8 months. In the end vitamans are the hope everyone has. There is no real neglecting hair loss because in the end aside surgery there is more than a 50% chance YOU CANT do anything about it except accept it.
I like the way people say "you just have to except", its the same thing they say to people with terminal diseases.
 

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I have a friend who skipped uni for a week because the barber cut his hair too short and he wanted to grow it out a bit before showing his face. I bet he is one of the nw1s that would tell me to shave it
 
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The modern man has less testosterone than the man from the 70s. The sexes are reversing, this planet is becoming one big gaseous ball of sh*t.
 
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I started treatment early and got no results. So I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. some of us are meant to suffer from hairloss. I know its totally unfair.
 

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Full heads are unbelievable. I told that story before but it's worth telling again:

A "friend" who judged me very harshly for being depressed about my hair loss cried in front of his girlfriend begging her not to stop loving him because he was forced to shave his head once.

He had to shave it because of a fraternity thing in university.

The hypocrisy coming from full heads is sometimes unbearable.

I saw recent pictures of this guy, NW2 now. Maybe I shouldn't, but I can't help being delighted.


Okay, that dude has more substantial things to be ridiculed about besides hair loss. I find it odd that only now are you delighting in his misery. To cry in front of your gf for any reason, especially for fear of her leaving you, is literally worse than a fat, NW7 who wears socks+sandals and watches anime p**rn.


Secondly, I think our generation needs to plant the seeds that will help all future men. That is to say, for the first time ever, we have a compendium of hair loss information on websites like this which are more comprehensive than any Dermatologist's expertise and equal to that of any hair loss expert from Bosley. We know that a cure will likely never come. We know Finasteride is an imperfect yet powerful tool. We need to start promoting a positive view of it and eliminate the shame associated with it, so that boys currently 5 years old can shamelessly begin using it in their early 20s if necessary. Fat women now openly promote being fat ****s so that little fat hippos can one day grow up and continue to be fat ****s even though doctors disagree. Why can't we do the same for good young men who will be slapped in the face by the unexpected male pattern baldness in their life?

I for one will OPENLY PROMOTE to my younger brother, my future son(s), and my future nephew(s) to meticulously examine their hair once they hit age 18 every ****ing month as would a women check her breasts for breast cancer. And at the FIRST appearance of irregularity (no matter how minute), I will personally help them jump on finasteride. Instead of joking about it like our uncles and fathers did (granted they didn't know what we now know), we should protect our progeny from it like women protect their daughters from breast cancer. Like fatties protect little fatties from fat-shaming. Think about it guys.
 

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Why would you even subject your children to all that? You don't suffer from hair loss yourself.

Unless you want them to become paranoid men with BDD who think they have male pattern baldness like you.

I don't think it's paranoia. I'm assuming you're going to be doing the same with your sons.
 

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No we don't have to accept. What do they say to fat people? Just stay fat? No they tell them to do something about it because they know it's possible.

This quote really caught my attention.

It made me think to myself on why whenever someone has a problem with anything, it's told that that they can do something about it. But with hair loss, we're told to just accept it. Even with any other cosmetic defect, it's told that something can be done to fix it, but with hair loss, it's always the same old thing of being told to just get over it and that nothing can be done about it.

Seriously though, why is it only with hair loss that it's told nothing can be done about it? Can anyone bring up something else where it's told that nothing can be done about it rather than alopecia?


i attempted this at 19 until i still have libido problems at 26 and all the hair on my head has begun to fall out at this point. don't worry about the sides they said... the sides are rare they said... **** all of that and this

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It depends who is the girl I chose to have kids with.

My current girlfriend for example has a family where all the men are NW1.

If you don't think you're paranoid, then you need help. Everyone here told you that you had absolutely no hair loss.

And you're still questioning that fact? Look at your hair now, from your last picture, it's a full head of hair! End of the story.

Number 1, I take what you said as a tacit acknowledgment that you WOULD care about your potential kids hair as much as I would. (Which is not a bad thing, at all). Number 2, a maternal grandfather with a thick head of hair is no guarantee of never losing hair.

And again, it's not "paranoia." I'm not some crazed lunatic up all hours of the day, checking my hair for changes. I take .01 seconds to swallow a tiny pill, 90 seconds to apply minoxidil in the morning, 90 seconds to apply it at night, and maybe 30 seconds running my fingers through my hair just because. Calling me a hypochondriac might be legit (although I disagree). But paranoid is wrong. I think you and I live relatively similar lives. Are you paranoid?
 

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Seriously though, why is it only with hair loss that it's told nothing can be done about it? Can anyone bring up something else where it's told that nothing can be done about it rather than alopecia?

Well, that's nature! You can't beat nature. In the end, nature will make us age and ultimately die... So, hair is nothing. :))

So your question is like "why must we die, can';t we live forever"?


And, yessss, there are tons of other stuff that "nothing can be done about". For example:you were born short, but want to be tall-what can be done?
OR, you're dignosed with a terminal illness which has no cure and you have a couple of months more to live. What can you do? Maybe pray to God and write your testament?

LEt's be honest:in the grand scheme of things, hair loss is a joke.
It's only western "modern" society which become obsessed with looks. Why must you "look good"? Everybody will answer: to have plenty of sex with hot girls picked up anywhere.
That's what our ideals and goals in life became in 21 century. Evolution or involution?
 
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Everyone has been allotted a cross to bear. Some have multipule crosses, and the severity will vary. Anyone that's bald should accept that cross, and realise in the grand scheme they are just a tiny cog in the great wheel of life. We are a joke species anyway. A genetic mutation that's all. We are going away, and we are not returning....Thank god
 

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Well, that's nature! You can't beat nature. In the end, nature will make us age and ultimately die... So, hair is nothing. :))

So your question is like "why must we die, can';t we live forever"?


And, yessss, there are tons of other stuff that "nothing can be done about". For example:you were born short, but want to be tall-what can be done?
OR, you're dignosed with a terminal illness which has no cure and you have a couple of months more to live. What can you do? Maybe pray to God and write your testament?

LEt's be honest:in the grand scheme of things, hair loss is a joke.
It's only western "modern" society which become obsessed with looks. Why must you "look good"? Everybody will answer: to have plenty of sex with hot girls picked up anywhere.
That's what our ideals and goals in life became in 21 century. Evolution or involution?

Devolution is the word your looking for. And I agree that this shallow, looksist mentality has become much more prevalent lately in society. But the rammifications of going bald in this world go far beyond not being able to score a hOt piece of ***, as that is a gross generalization. Its as much about wanting to look normal and fit in as it is about not wanting to be singled out, ridiculed and generally hated on by many more types of people than just teenage girls. As you said yourself, this vain society sees us as a joke.... but we are not a joke, we are human beings with feelings like everybody else, yet it is acceptable to deny a whole demographic of people their own humanity for a genetic defect beyond their control? The fact that bald guys seemed to be the whipping boys of society says more about the society that alienates bald guys than the bald guys themselves.
 
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Yes, when being bald prevents you from obtaining a job, people specifically cross the road to avoid you, people start fights because of the way you look, and if you able to attain employment("shock horror") then having to endure daily abuse, then it simply goes beyond not be able to score that perfect ten.
 

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Wait until you're bald.


I'm sorry but that's all I can reply to your ignorant post.

You. Don't. Know.

I read things like "So hair is nothing." or "Hair loss is a joke" and I remember those times where I was in a mental institute, crying my eyes out thinking my life was over because I was nearly bald at the age of 21.

Put that in your mind, once and for all, you have no idea of what it's like.

Hair loss is not nothing, it's not a joke, and it's not nature! Hair loss is a disease, a disease that will eat your soul if you let it consume you.

And it will consume you. Wait for the NW4, then the dreaded NW5. Then you can come back with your wisdom and tell us how great you're doing.


Rant over. I'm sorry but I can't stand that kind of post anymore. I may not technically be bald anymore, but I won't forget what I've been through.

This is the same BS my NW1 friends will spit out. "Well we all get old!" Screw that. They have no idea, and you have no idea.

Sorry, but i'm already very diffused, i practically buzz it to almost 1 or zero.

And, sorry again, but yes, it's brought to us by...nature(genetic inheritance, etc).
And no, there are people who are not consumed at all by hairloss. They have a completely different mindset, they are not obsessed with their looks like you are, or i was(and still am, but i'm "curing" myself).

I understand your reaction.
Of course i still have some kind of hairline(not perfect), although it's some Nw2,5-3, so it's not that pleasant looking.

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Yes, when being bald prevents you from obtaining a job, people specifically cross the road to avoid you, people start fights because of the way you look, and if you able to attain employment("shock horror") then having to endure daily abuse, then it simply goes beyond not be able to score that perfect ten.

I have never seen that. People crossing the street to not meet a bald man? Are you serious?
And about a j\ob, come on, the employer is interested in what you can do, not the hair on your head.
So, unless you're aiming for a job in male modelling/actor etc, hairloss doesn't prevent you at all.
 
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I have been refused jobs in the past. Not career jobs, but manual ones. One of my friends dad said I will never get a job, and if they were an employer they wouldn't employ me. Nothing to do with my attitude/demeanour. Its the whole look, led by being bald. There are different types of bald people, just as there are with hair. I am a bald mutant, a scary fuc**r you wouldn't like to meet on a dark night.
If you think discrimination doesn't exist when bald(as well in other traits ie colour, build, age etc) then you need to syringe the donuts from youre ears and absorb what I am telling you that as happened in MY life as a FULLY bald man.
 

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An old lady held on to her bag when I first shaved my head to a 0. It's not crossing the street but it's close enough.

For a job interview, employers didn't care about hair before. Now you're interviewed by females from HR and your hair will matter to them.

You're having another denial episode zdm. Hair loss is all we make it to be on these froums. And no you won't cure yourself from wanting to look good.

Not everyone cares about balding, but just look at the people who "don't care" as you put it. Most of the time, they've just given up on looking good altogether.

Can you please stop infinitely repeating this "look good"?
And maybe you're right, i should leave this forum full of negativity, where people affected by baldness like to sit in "their own juice", and go to more positive places, where people accept their hair loss.
You don't get what "Acceptance" is.
And yes, partly i agree with you.Everybody wants to look good, even myself. That means i won't let my hair grow too much nd look bad, i buzz it(which drastically diminishes the diffused look).
So what am i doing? I am doing the best to make my hair look decent.
If i was not to care, i would let my hair grow some months, the sides/back get too long/thick, and the diffusion on top look like crap, and pretend i don't care.

But i don't do that, i buzz it short every couple of days, but, here ends my obsession, i don't torment myself or think how i would look with a thick grown NW1. That means acceptance to me: doing the best i can to diminish the hair loss bad look, and then going on with my life.
If i was to become completely bald on top, i'd shave it daily and accept it.Trust me. I don't do male model pictorials, i don't act in films, so i don't see why should i be obsessed with the lack of a full head of hair. I don't have it, never going to have it, so i accept it and that's all.
What should i do? Kill myself?
 

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No, sorry, i don't see the point of that community either.
That is some kind of "terapeutic comunities" like there are with alcohol/drug users.
The people there feel insecure about their baldness. I don't feel that.
I don't get why should i put my pictures on a site?Why should i write on a forum that i shave my head? It's kind of weird for me... Like i'm seeking approval from othersthat i did the right thing. No, that's not for me.

L.E: Just for curiosity, i entered there. Hmm, a lot of them don't look bad sly. Well, many need some tan/some anti-shine product, but, honestly, between sly and horseshoe grown-out contrasting to...5 wispy hairs on top, or dreadful combovers, they did the right thing.
 
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