The Rock Is This Year's Sexiest Man Alive

[Roberto_72]

@hairblues, I agree with you that lots of male users here tend to generalize and oversimplify how women think.
However, you should not forget you are not the typical woman who you'd meet in a bar or on Tinder, IMHO.
You are an artist, you are classically educated (I mean you know who Wittgenstein was), you live in NYC, you are an intellectual.
Do you really think your tastes can be similar to the 99% of the female universe who:
- is not an artist
- thinks Wittgenstein is a town in Minnesota
- has never been downtown Manhattan
- is not an intellectual?

 

[CopeForLife]

This is very true

I have had very good looking men approach me both online and in person that have no personality--they try but its like dull...and they are obnoxious when you are not interested in them because they are good looking and think women are supposed to what? just drop their panties? f*** off.

Rather take an educated average man over a drop dead gorgeous dummy any day of the week.

I don't mean this disrespectfully but Fred obviously lacks 'charm' he's a very blunt fellow--not all women are going to go for this sort of thing--so he compensates by saying 'charm' 'confidence' are false. So i do think in his case and for some men--its true they can only get 'looks matched' and because he says he is decent looking guy he does okay.

I know a lot of confident charming men who are getting laid plenty and not fantastic to look at.

It is nice to live with a choice.

Also if ugly guy'd approach you he will not have a chance to proof that he isn't a "dull" since he will not pass a looks threshold.

Anyway if ugly girl will approach me I will make the same.

Nothing "shallow" here, it is a life.

 

[CopeForLife]

Tinder girls are shallow and not intellectual because they will not find me (or my "inside beauty") attractive!!!

Thats is the logic of baldcels/incels/low t cucks.

Girls in Tinder represents every variety of girls in real life.

Cope with this.

 

[tellersquill]

Just to add something to intelligence:

Being intelligent and being intellectual are two different things.

I know a great deal of people who have IQ's - lawyers, physicists, programmers.

But this does not mean they are intellectual - they do not read novels or are aware of political issues, or are able to debate about art and philosophy.

(not that there is anything wrong with that - just pointing out being an intellectual and being of high IQ are not the same thing)

 

[IggyPop]

Fred used it as a sample.

Showing him out of character he plays.

You dissing this mans looks what do you look like to be so judgmental.

Huh? "Dissing"? All I am saying is that 60 years old Rowan Atkinson isn´t looksmatched with his 32 years old girlfriend. Why does it matter in this context how I look like?
Of course, I am much uglier than Mr. Bean......

 

[Roberto_72]

When you go on their forums and see these thousand page threads where they mentally masturbate about what they should say next to a girl: "She's not replying anymore, how do I make interested again, please help!"

She's just not interested in you moron, move on! No one will tell them what they don't want to hear. And when all attempts inevitably fail, they'll of course tell him that it was all his fault, that his game was not tight enough and that he's not being direct and aggressive enough.



Women you meet on Tinder are the same women you meet in real life.

My girlfriend and my ex-girlfriend are not brainless bimbo's, the former has a master in education science and the latter has a master in finance.

Thinking that girls you find on Tinder are somehow stupid superficial airheads is a cope. Tinder has all kinds of people, even artistic intellectual girls like hairblues.

People who have not used dating apps should refrain from giving their opinion about it. You need to know your subject to be able to give a valid opinion.

The goes for the women you meet in a bar too. One of the girls I had a one night stand with was studying political science, and another could speak four languages.

So I don't get this "typical woman you'd meet in a bar or on Tinder".

Look, I've just written a post praising women for their intellectual abilities and how different they were from one another. You think anyone will notice?!

Tinder girls are shallow and not intellectual because they will not find me (or my "inside beauty") attractive!!!

Thats is the logic of baldcels/incels/low t cucks.

Girls in Tinder represents every variety of girls in real life.

Cope with this.

Hold your horses.
When I write the "typical woman you find on Tinder or in a bar" I am not being derogatory towards such women. I use it as a synonym for the "average woman", or "next to every woman".

I know all too well that "bar and/or tinder girls" means pretty much everyone.

I don't believe bar girls or tinder girls are superficial. Superficial respect to what, since they are most of the women in this day and age?

 

[hairblues]

I may not be the best person to ask for that since I'm not very popular and the kind to have a huge social circle.

In the end, I'm introverted and I've come to accept that there's nothing I could do about that character trait.

If I had to give you any advice, it would be: never try to be someone you're not, never force interaction if you think the vibe or the timing is not right.

You see that advice a lot in self-help BS articles for socially awkward people and it results in unnatural and embarrassing situations for people who try to follow this advice.

Here's what you probably don't want to hear: some people were just not made to be popular, to be the center of attention or to be social butterflies.

I don't know you but I'd say you should just experiment, try to meet a lot of people and see what comes naturally for you. But whatever you do, don't ever try to force anything.



"Hey how are you?" is not a lazy approach, it is the only approach in my opinion.

Say you talk to someone for the first time in real life, how are you going to approach them?

Anything other than: "Hey, how are you?" or small-talk about your surroundings would not be natural.

You don't know that person, she's done nothing to deserve special favors like personalized messages that can take a good chunk of your time, while there's no guarantee that this particular girl will even respond.

I know you're a woman and you feel that men owe you the world just because you happen to have a pussy, but some of them value their time and will not reward someone just for existing.

Yes some i am sure feel as you do...this resentment of the opposite sex that they look at it as if they 'owe; them something.
but again its the way sex has been since the beginning of time.
courting
You yourself have said women were happier in the times of getting married not having careers not having 'choices'
well I don't agree with you but lets pretend it was the old times
You do not think men bent over backwards to get attention from women?

lets talk about that for a second lets pretend it was fifty or sixty or seventy years ago.

You would not be getting laid

you would be going through an obstacle course to get a woman to even talk to you.

if you were upper class you would have to call on her family,

you would have to send gifts

you would have to spend time with her in the company of chaperones depending where you lived and what religion.

you would be lucky to get a heated kiss before deciding if you wanted to get married

you would have to put in a ton of work not just for her but her whole family.

and poor? same thing...just not as fancy but you would ahvet to put in work with her and her family.

You could get laid for sure..but then you either would not be interested in marrying this woman OR you could even get trapped into marriage.

SO yes
sorry saying 'whats up" is lazy.

If its working for you and the women you have dated thats great!! i don't judge you for it

but these guys having no luck maybe thats not going to work for them.

and maybe you yourself could do better than this looks match thing.

and like i said before i am sure when a girl really caught your eye you did a little more than 'whats up?' or "how you doing?"

its just male instinct when they want someone they work for it without worrying about giving women something they don't deserve..a little time in a f*****g email.

LOL

 

[hairblues]

I may not be the best person to ask for that since I'm not very popular and the kind to have a huge social circle.

In the end, I'm introverted and I've come to accept that there's nothing I could do about that character trait.

If I had to give you any advice, it would be: never try to be someone you're not, never force interaction if you think the vibe or the timing is not right.

You see that advice a lot in self-help BS articles for socially awkward people and it results in unnatural and embarrassing situations for people who try to follow this advice.

Here's what you probably don't want to hear: some people were just not made to be popular, to be the center of attention or to be social butterflies.

I don't know you but I'd say you should just experiment, try to meet a lot of people and see what comes naturally for you. But whatever you do, don't ever try to force anything.
.

Correct like i said earlier you have no charm...charm is how you get people to like you and draw people in..Its easier to develop charm if good looking but it is something people can work not if they want to.

i said this earlier and now you just confirmed it.

If you had more charm which you don't you would probably do better with women than just on your looks and being matched.

this is not a diss its just a reality..which i think you guys like to hear otherwise I would not even point it out.

Getting people to like you is not very hard you have to be a little humble and if you go in defensive and thinking
"I don't owe this b**ch sh*t just because she has a pussy' when going through a dating site.
then I would guess you are not going to do as well as someone who thinks well let me put a little effort in..if she rejects she rejects me.

The problem with you is you take rejection very personal probably because of this introverted personality.

Then you make these theories about men and women that apply to all men and women because it makes you feel like the world men and women all make sense

 

[hairblues]

It is nice to live with a choice.

Also if ugly guy'd approach you he will not have a chance to proof that he isn't a "dull" since he will not pass a looks threshold.

Anyway if ugly girl will approach me I will make the same.

Nothing "shallow" here, it is a life.

most men and women are not ugly they are average to varying degrees

99% of what i write is NOT to the ugly vs the beautiful spectrum.

 

[hairblues]

Tinder girls are shallow and not intellectual because they will not find me (or my "inside beauty") attractive!!!

Thats is the logic of baldcels/incels/low t cucks.

Girls in Tinder represents every variety of girls in real life.

Cope with this.

i think he's referring more to my background, my profession and my geographical location.

I am not on Tinder.

I was told by several people its like Grinder for straight people.

Are they wrong? maybe i don't really care at moment.

In this moment i am so consumed about my hair i am not even remotely interested in dating.

I blew someone off i liked because i am so f*****g consumed with worry about my hair

My Father is in town and i don't even want to see him because he's very observant and i am terrified he will notice and say something to me..My Father is a very 'looks' oriented person about his children.

 

[hairblues]

Yes they are wrong, since almost no girl actually looks for one night stands that will not possibly lead to more.

You should know this, but it seems girls don't even know what they want themselves.

Men looking for one night stands are common on Tinder of course.

But the majority of men wants a meaningful relationship.

i don't really care about Tinder i don't know why what me or Roberto said is bothering you so much.

Is it that Roberto said something nice about 'me' in comparison to Tinder?

 

[hairblues]

@hairblues, I agree with you that lots of male users here tend to generalize and oversimplify how women think.
However, you should not forget you are not the typical woman who you'd meet in a bar or on Tinder, IMHO.
You are an artist, you are classically educated (I mean you know who Wittgenstein was), you live in NYC, you are an intellectual.
Do you really think your tastes can be similar to the 99% of the female universe who:
- is not an artist
- thinks Wittgenstein is a town in Minnesota
- has never been downtown Manhattan
- is not an intellectual?

To be fair I only know who Wittgenstein is from Jason Robards

 

[CopeForLife]

TInder was supposed to make dating simpler and/or let shy people to enter to the dating scene.

It completed its goal and made dating simpler... for attractive people.

And it allowed to shy/plain women to satisfy their sl*t wishes. It is not shameful to admit woman as men has their sex desire which isn't considered "normal". This perception of "normal" is corroding though by modern neofeminists movement and general "liberal" ideas.

The problem is 80% of male population (50% of them are "pervert creeps", call the police!!!) are banned to satisfy their "sl*t" (not in that sense, just for reference) wishes and left overboard of society.

That is how society changes now for my opinion. No one should feel guilty for this, it is just how it goes.

 

[CaptainForehead]

But I barely ever get rejected so it's a non-problem.

?

 

[CopeForLife]

most men and women are not ugly they are average to varying degrees

99% of what i write is NOT to the ugly vs the beautiful spectrum.

"average to varying degrees"

I call it mental gymnastics.

I see tons of ugly people around. And they mostly produce same ugly child in most of cases.

I checked parents of my classmates recently. Parents of the most attractive girls are attractive (and quite wealth) in the extreme extent.

Their brother and sisters are VERY goodlooking. That is how genetic works.

I didn't mention guys because in our class we had probably 4.5/10 at the best by PSL scale. And a lot of 6.5-8/10 girls.

 

[CopeForLife]

How could a woman or a good-looking guy possibly understand? No point in talking about these painful truths tp them.

Luckily I moved back to my homeland and now feel ok since goodlooking/average-ugly ratio there is 1/100. And a lot of people here bald/balding. Average people here is 3/10 by PSL scale.

 

[CopeForLife]

I, on the other hand, I'm stuck in a shithole of a country with too many good-looking people, and looks here are almost everything.

Probable you really need to change country.

Nothing is more traumatic than see GL people every day.

Now I see subhumans everyday even with NW0-1 they look worse than me. It heals me. I steal confidence from them.

 

[hairblues]

The fact that couples are looksmatched is not a theory for god's sake, it is data.

Anthropologists have studied thousands of couples to find out that the vast majority of them are looksmatched and kind of look like each other (self-seeking like hypothesis).

You can't agree or disagree with reality. And even then, it's not like we needed anthropological studies to come to that conclusion, of course the vast majority of couples are looksmatched, everyone learns this from high school.

Lol, whether you find a man boring or not depends on how attracted you feel towards him.

@shookwun has also explained this many times.

I've been on dates with girls who told me straight out that I was boring, or that just weren't laughing at my jokes, that found me 'off'. Everyone is that person for some people, it's a question of compatibility. Obviously, many, many girls found me very interesting and hilarious, as I've said, this year, a dozen of girls wanted to become my girlfriend. Yet I still had a few dates where the girls found me bland and uninteresting, and concluded the date with: "Well, it was nice to meet you... ..."

Looks do matter i never said they do not

Do i think an ugly man can get a beautiful woman? no not in most cases

But most people are on a range of average to attractive

these debates get exhausting and go in circles because you are very closed off to what people say.

when i say looks matched theory i mean that everything else falls into place because of being looks matched is bulshit

if that works for you fine i don't care but you can repeat it a thousand times does not make you right

do some people agree with you on certain points? yes of cours your not 100% wrong.

But you are this all or nothing on this subject.

Your GF now who finds some things as adorable because she is smitten with you---those things that she thinks are cute can get really annoying in a few years. Same for you with her.

your in the endorphin stage, that sh*t fades. I think it takes like 3 years. If you do not have anything beyond looks you are going to start getting really really bored with one another.

so your theory is good for short term relationships they are not going to work for relationships that last 5 10 or 15 years

 

[shookwun]

hair blues has a blue collar muscular-DHT stud fantasy.

Luckily I moved back to my homeland and now feel ok since goodlooking/average-ugly ratio there is 1/100. And a lot of people here bald/balding. Average people here is 3/10 by PSL scale.

Slavic-cel

polskas, ruskis and uks always BALD

Probable you really need to change country.

Nothing is more traumatic than see GL people every day.

Now I see subhumans everyday even with NW0-1 they look worse than me. It heals me. I steal confidence from them.

 

[CopeForLife]

Recently remember I how some ugly pua moron after gym tried to approach a girl in a public bus and asked like 30 questions to her. She wasn't even goodlooking but looked at me instead of him whenever I checked his attempts with glance. Lol at approaching with ugly face. Eventually she sat in another bus corner LOL. Literally women better will have a sex with a dog than with ugly male.

Imagine this "validation" but multiplied in x100 times in every place you go that is how GL people live on daily basis. Lol at their problems. Get the f*** out.

Now winter so I wear a beanie (my other face is relative ok) and dressed very well. Always catch stares from people. Hairline is hided. Confidence inflated.