Tsuji - News Successfully Developed An Expansion Method Of Hf Derived Stem Cells

[razzmatazz91]

The phase I/II trial will last at least a year.
Conditional market release is to happen in late 2020.

If phase 1 starts in March/April 2019, there is absolutely no way it will be released in 2020.

2020 will be phase 2 if they can start that fast. Logically, it can not be before 2021 if it has to be phase 1 and 2 and each phase takes one year.

 

[Hate da Bt]

If phase 1 starts in March/April 2019, there is absolutely no way it will be released in 2020.

2020 will be phase 2 if they can start that fast. Logically, it can not be before 2021 if it has to be phase 1 and 2 and each phase takes one year.

Well, the end result of this approach is hair neogenesis, which means that efficacy can be evaluated at the same time safety is. That's why I mentioned a phase I/II trial.

 

[razzmatazz91]

Well, the end result of this approach is hair neogenesis, which means that efficacy can be evaluated at the same time safety is. That's why I mentioned a phase I/II trial.

So Phase 1 and Phase 2 are the same damn trial?
Man, that’s great!! Can hardly believe it’s legit and needs only one trial for conditional approval.

 

[Endmymisery]

So Phase 1 and Phase 2 are the same damn trial?
Man, that’s great!! Can hardly believe it’s legit and needs only one trial for conditional approval.

All hail Japan?

 

[razzmatazz91]

All hail Japan?

Seems like they are the only hope for ppl with advanced hair loss.

 

[kevin west]

I do not know why everyone believes that in 2019, organ science company official website to write clinical research in 2018, which one to believe?

 

[Javell]

I do not know why everyone believes that in 2019, organ science company official website to write clinical research in 2018, which one to believe?

Because they actually pushed their timeline back in a few things?

 

[Marcaronii]

 

[Toby0823]

Haha, this guy is comparing tsuji with Brotzu lotion First of all, tsuji is completely different level. Second, these brotzu dates are user made lmao.

Brotzu thread has over 1k pages and still going strong. I hear a few local baldies are even cooking up some homemade lotions for their shiny scalps.

You only look down on brotzu bcs it was proven a scam...yrs after that hype train started. Hype train just started with Tsuji....

 

[Cue Bald]

Brotzu thread has over 1k pages and still going strong. I hear a few local baldies are even cooking up some homemade lotions for their shiny scalps.
You only look down on brotzu bcs it was proven a scam...yrs after that hype train started. Hype train just started with Tsuji....

yeah the hype on Tsuji will probably begin now, with people posting references to it in their sigs, people saving up money for the treatment, other people posting news that it works 100% NW6 -> NW1 because their friends cousins workmate's sister went to Japan and spoke to the lead researcher. everyone will go nuts for it and advice new people to "avoid that poison finasteride, just wait for a year or two and get Tsuji"
then a few years and hundreds of posts will pass, and deadlines will get pushed back, "major announcements" will get pushed back.

eventually a major announcement will be scheduled for a few months away and all the posters will be excited, the year of the cure is finally here.
eventually the announcement will come in that it grows 5% more thickness on 20% of patients and it is not finanicially viable. a few people will threaten to kill the president of the company but by then a new miracle cure will just start getting hyped up, "this time it's different, my friends sisters uncle has seen 100% regrowth with his own eyes" and tsuji will be forgotten about...

i'll come back in a few years to quote this post to gloat, like i did with brotzu and all the other false cures

 

[ams98]

Comparing apples to oranges

yeah the hype on Tsuji will probably begin now, with people posting references to it in their sigs, people saving up money for the treatment, other people posting news that it works 100% NW6 -> NW1 because their friends cousins workmate's sister went to Japan and spoke to the lead researcher. everyone will go nuts for it and advice new people to "avoid that poison finasteride, just wait for a year or two and get Tsuji"
then a few years and hundreds of posts will pass, and deadlines will get pushed back, "major announcements" will get pushed back.

eventually a major announcement will be scheduled for a few months away and all the posters will be excited, the year of the cure is finally here.
eventually the announcement will come in that it grows 5% more thickness on 20% of patients and it is not finanicially viable. a few people will threaten to kill the president of the company but by then a new miracle cure will just start getting hyped up, "this time it's different, my friends sisters uncle has seen 100% regrowth with his own eyes" and tsuji will be forgotten about...

i'll come back in a few years to quote this post to gloat, like i did with brotzu and all the other false cures

are

 

[inmyhead]

yeah the hype on Tsuji will probably begin now, with people posting references to it in their sigs, people saving up money for the treatment, other people posting news that it works 100% NW6 -> NW1 because their friends cousins workmate's sister went to Japan and spoke to the lead researcher. everyone will go nuts for it and advice new people to "avoid that poison finasteride, just wait for a year or two and get Tsuji"
then a few years and hundreds of posts will pass, and deadlines will get pushed back, "major announcements" will get pushed back.

eventually a major announcement will be scheduled for a few months away and all the posters will be excited, the year of the cure is finally here.
eventually the announcement will come in that it grows 5% more thickness on 20% of patients and it is not finanicially viable. a few people will threaten to kill the president of the company but by then a new miracle cure will just start getting hyped up, "this time it's different, my friends sisters uncle has seen 100% regrowth with his own eyes" and tsuji will be forgotten about...

i'll come back in a few years to quote this post to gloat, like i did with brotzu and all the other false cures

So what is not a false cure? Death?

 

[That Guy]

i'll come back in a few years to quote this post to gloat

I mean it's pretty clear that's the only reason you're here at all

 

[razzmatazz91]

Well, the end result of this approach is hair neogenesis, which means that efficacy can be evaluated at the same time safety is. That's why I mentioned a phase I/II trial.

Reposting this.
Anyone have any authoritative source on this?
It seems too good to be true that Phase 1 and 2 trials are the same trial.

If not, how are we so sure of a release soon? Is it because trials won't take too long because of the nature of the treatment?

 

[Mykonas]

Reposting this.
Anyone have any authoritative source on this?
It seems too good to be true that Phase 1 and 2 trials are the same trial.

If not, how are we so sure of a release soon? Is it because trials won't take too long because of the nature of the treatment?

There's no way that's true. both phases involve different approaches that can't be combined into one apart from the administration of course.

Can someone remind me why does everyone seem to forget about phase 3 ??? Oh CaUsE It'S JaPaN AnD ThEy CaN ComMeRcIaLiZe It blabalbla... yeah we get that doesn't mean that they get to skip phase 3 the only reason they're allowed to commercialize it after phase 2 and to a restrictive number of patients is to yield more data that will be relevant for phase 3. in other words the conditional release after phase 2 is the phase 3 in itself and the treatment won't be available for the masses whether it's in japan or abroad only after phase 3 is done

 

[Hate da Bt]

There's no way that's true. both phases involve different approaches that can't be combined into one apart from the administration of course.

Can someone remind me why does everyone seem to forget about phase 3 ??? Oh CaUsE It'S JaPaN AnD ThEy CaN ComMeRcIaLiZe It blabalbla... yeah we get that doesn't mean that they get to skip phase 3 the only reason they're allowed to commercialize it after phase 2 and to a restrictive number of patients is to yield more data that will be relevant for phase 3. in other words the conditional release after phase 2 is the phase 3 in itself and the treatment won't be available for the masses whether it's in japan or abroad only after phase 3 is done

This is a cell-biased therapy, whose end result is hair neogenesis. It AIN'T a drug.
At phase I, a drug's safety is evaluated. Neither dosing nor comparison with placebo or related drugs is involved.
At phase II, a drug's efficacy is evaluated. A placebo or one or more related drugs are involved. "Is there a statistically significant efficacy over a placebo or a related drug?" is what phase II trials try to answer.
Organ Germ Method's safety and efficacy CAN be evaluated at the same time, as there is no need for a placebo group and there isn't any similar therapy available, it's either new hair follicles or baldness.
Capisce?

 

[razzmatazz91]

This is a cell-biased therapy, whose end result is hair neogenesis. It AIN'T a drug.
At phase I, a drug's safety is evaluated. Neither dosing nor comparison with placebo or related drugs is involved.
At phase II, a drug's efficacy is evaluated. A placebo or one or more related drugs are involved. "Is there a statistically significant efficacy over a placebo or a related drug?" is what phase II trials try to answer.
Organ Germ Method's safety and efficacy CAN be evaluated at the same time, as there is no need for a placebo group and there isn't any similar therapy available, it's either new hair follicles or baldness.
Capisce?

That makes sense. But where is this from?
Is there a source or did you just come up with it?

Anyone here know the legal implications of this not being a drug?

 

[Mykonas]

This is a cell-biased therapy, whose end result is hair neogenesis. It AIN'T a drug.
At phase I, a drug's safety is evaluated. Neither dosing nor comparison with placebo or related drugs is involved.
At phase II, a drug's efficacy is evaluated. A placebo or one or more related drugs are involved. "Is there a statistically significant efficacy over a placebo or a related drug?" is what phase II trials try to answer.
Organ Germ Method's safety and efficacy CAN be evaluated at the same time, as there is no need for a placebo group and there isn't any similar therapy available, it's either new hair follicles or baldness.
Capisce?

Lol go read japan pmd act dumbass

 

[razzmatazz91]

Lol go read japan pmd act dumbass

You have read it then?
What part of it are you referring to? What's the trial procedure?

 

[Mykonas]

You have read it then?
What part of it are you referring to? What's the trial procedure?