Unconventional Dating Anecdote From This Evening

CaptainForehead

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I don't map the red/blue pill dichotomy onto the conservative/liberal dichotomy. Do you think that I should?.
No. I just wanted to say that it makes complete sense for us to be reading self help books given that we've a conservative bent.
These books are largely about personality and interactions, whereas the discussions on this site are focused on looks. If we were consistent, would we not be reading books on grooming tips? Perhaps we get enough of that here.

The discussion here is focused on SMV. I think we want to improve outside of the sexual arena, especially since we're screwed there (at least I am). Also, in order for there to be grooming, there needs to be a base.
There is not much I can do looks wise. I do need to lose 20 pounds. And recently it came to my attention that I need to build up my neck.

I don't harbor any illusions that any of these measures will make women want to sleep with me.
 

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No. I just wanted to say that it makes complete sense for us to be reading self help books given that we've a conservative bent.


The discussion here is focused on SMV. I think we want to improve outside of the sexual arena, especially since we're screwed there (at least I am). Also, in order for there to be grooming, there needs to be a base.
There is not much I can do looks wise. I do need to lose 20 pounds. And recently it came to my attention that I need to build up my neck.

I don't harbor any illusions that any of these measures will make women want to sleep with me.

What's SMV?

I've got both liberal and conservative tendencies, so I get to make fun of both :)

Anyway I think you're right. Reading these books, at least the good ones (lol), is an indicator of self awareness and wanting to do better.

So you think you have enough time to lose the 20 lbs prior to your move?
 

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What's SMV?

I've got both liberal and conservative tendencies, so I get to make fun of both :)

Anyway I think you're right. Reading these books, at least the good ones (lol), is an indicator of self awareness and wanting to do better.

So you think you have enough time to lose the 20 lbs prior to your move?

SMV= Sexual Market Value

Losing 20lbs before I move is not going to happen, I also want to enjoy the food and chocolates here. I do need to lose 12lbs though (I gained a few in the past couple of months). I'm mainly concerned about weight as my picture has to go on one of their webpages. I have 4 months for this
 

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she's a bumble match but she's in another state hundreds of miles away, i happened to match with her while leaving the state :(

shame

at least jerk off to her pics while thinking what could've been
 

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It was a couple weeks ago. He said he was doing cocaine while behaving like a sideshow and initiating fights with a handful of people based on old grudges.

I bet I can expect this for a few months!

I didn't hold a long term grudge over you because if I have a problem with someone I get it out of the way. You stew on it and make petty remarks over and over, which you have done and will do to others as well.

Just like harassing that woman for months "you said you'd be my friend! Why aren't you my friend?! BE MY FRIEND!! WAHHH".

You've said your bit more than once now, just get it all out of your system so I don't have to keep seeing you slandering me randomly, in petty ways like you've done with others. The reason I said I was "done" with this is because you are simply choosing to believe everything I'm saying is fabricated, so there's no point in going around in circles if you're just going to deny simple truths about your character.

The arguments done. I said I wasn't aware of our bitter past issues until recently, I'm guessing you don't believe this either, you haven't openly explained actually, you just keep repeating the same "1 year grudge" allegations so maybe you're just not listening.

And when it's done, most people stop going out of their way to mention each other. You didn't have to explain that further to CF, and especially not in the way you did.

You're further proving exactly what happened a year ago, and what you do to others and will repeatedly do, as a bitter guy who will keep on going. Probably in smaller petty ways in future.

You can keep replying with "f*** you a**h**"as if this carries some significance, but that's just hilarious coming from you. It just doesn't suit your character whatsoever and makes you sound deranged and semi retarded. I can only imagine how you'd look flipping the bird.

@CaptainForehead I don't regularly do cocaine, that was carrying on from last Saturday. Last time before that was around New Year's.

It's not really the best drug actually but it's just common.
 
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Snorting coke and having these angry outbursts while doing it is a telltale sign that one does not have their life in order.

My cousin who's supposed to be Muslim keeps bragging about he's aiming at moderation and balance in his life while he smokes two joints a day.

Sorry, doesn't compute, don't talk to me about moderation, balance and morals if your actions don't match your words.

And I'd wager his long-*** posts are also a symptom of deeper problems, I've told him this since I started arguing with him, learn to be concise for god's sake. From the last posts I read, the problem is that he gives example after example of how people were stupid at a point, or how they said something slightly inaccurate and that pissed him off, and as @Afro_Vacancy said, some of them seem to have been made up.

Yeah dude because I'm snorting coke daily and doing this.

That was only probably the first time, though I've been drunk while on here at least a handful of times.

I don't see what's so implausible about what I'm saying about David, others have seen it, above he's doing it again. We said our bit and he isn't letting it end.

Ok ok I'm gonna shut up, let David have the next minimum 5 digs in here or elsewhere, and let it go up to a point.
 

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Sorry, doesn't compute, don't talk to me about moderation, balance and morals if your actions don't match your words.

But uh just to hopefully get things away from that topic (though I've probably already said too much) I'll just explain this.

I'm clearly not a fully balanced person and I'm never preaching zen or anything, I have problems with humanity, I'm cynical about people, I express this sometimes. I voluntarily isolate myself at times, which I've written about, and I'm 30 but am finding it harder than ever to keep a serious relationship, way harder than when I was 20. It should be the other way around. However despite these things I'm a more than functional normal adult 99% of the time and whilea forum may get the worst of me, I've never had crazy random outbursts in real life. Nor do I ever get this feeling of wanting to. It's just too easy to type on here I suppose.

But my push for "balance and moderation" is being open minded to different possibilities and acknowledging the chaos of this universe, rather than thinking it all ties up neatly for us to observe. Practically nothing works so uniformly. It's got nothing to do with a consistently balanced peaceful state of mind, as I do not have that.

It's over the top to think my opinions are now fucked because I kept a bag of coke after a party and came on here drunk and high, once. Or even more bizarre to imply that I must be deeply troubled because my posts ramble on.

But you can think what you want.
 

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If I'm being condescending and patronising it's normally while explicitly revealing everything I think, not shadowing it behind backhanded compliments.

As I said before your timing of "people pleasing" if often very suspicious, in the middle of a debate between 2 people for example- "well golly gee those 2 sure are giving each other hell, maybe I'll pour some oil on it by showering praise on one of them, out of absolutely nowhere".

We've had forum members who are genuinely positive about life and I don't consider that "asslicking" as it comes from a genuine place (I.D. Walker comes to mind) but with your little jibes, jilts, strategically placed compliments, you can say you don't focus on the negative, only because you don't put it out there.



f*****g hell, "drunk Mel Gibson at a synagogue" is exactly what I mean by winking at the "audience".

Anyway, I revealed my experience of how you were to me, and I see traits in that with how you act to others. I thought about not even mentioning our past issues but then my point would be based on little anecdotes I'm pulling from recent threads (such as you telling a guy your 3 page argument is suddenly "childish") and also that involves other people who may not want to be involved.

I was there, I know what you're like, and it does annoy me when I see you acting above other people or questioning for them, or just slyly jumping into a situation because they're involved and you hold a vendetta. Zircon and Dench touched on a lot of things but not everything I identify with, and that's why I just had to add this, because you'll just keep acting like that, thinking your little sly stabs and oddly placed contributions go un-noticed.

It may not be constructive criticism to make you a better person, but at least it'll make you think twice next time.

And no, it didn't feel good and I didn't want to write it, I thought about writing it two days ago and decided no, then yesterday again, and today I thought y'know what, others were right about most things but not everything, this has to be included. There were other things that annoyed me with how this played out (being offended at being called autistic when you've written you are, only countless times) but I felt that it had already been covered, so I focused on the things that nobody had mentioned which affected me a long while ago, and may potentially effect others going forward. It's annoying to see, it's annoying for others, and if I can do anything to stop it then at least I tried.

I didn't wait for any opportunity, I had completely forgotten about it, seeing an old post a few weeks ago brought it back because we were giving each other hell and I honestly couldn't remember this, so I went down that road. I remember the post where you finally needled me too far yet again, and I lost it and pointed out what you were continuously doing, and you didn't reply. From there you cooled off. It was not your decision to stop, it was an embarrassment of knowing you were intentionally digging at me and thinking it hadn't been noticed.

Unlike your claim in a PM, your change of "ideology" had nothing to do with why we stopped fighting, that was at least a few months after we stopped. (also you may not ever discuss PM's on here but I don't follow the same rule religiously, and in certain situations it's relevant, but I'm not including anyone else here)

If I hadn't have put together all the reasons you were slyly behaving as you were, who knows how long it would have continued.

As far as "playing nice" for a year, I was genuine when I gave compliments on how you're bettering yourself in different ways, but over time it's become clear you do feel this odd superiority over others, even if you admit such basic faults as aesthetics being average or having unsuccessful dates.

You haven't looked at the real picture, you do hold petty grudges over those and I wonder if you even realise it. Admitting that to yourself instead of putting it down to my temperament or my "ganging up" is another, much more difficult thing.

I think this ties in to your claim as to how I apparently "play nice" with you and also the petty grudges I've seen from your real life self, translating into this forum:

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...lures-with-women.105120/page-322#post-1502783

(and the posts that followed, one of which I basically called you a nutcase). Harassing a woman just to prove a point is exactly the type of behaviour that ties in to how you behave here.

I've admitted my faults and at times have apologised to others when I've gone too far. Months ago I was overly self-deprecating and feeling narcissistic to the point where even my own good intentions were selfish because I was doing it to feel good about myself. Some of these things were over the top, but I was going through a phase of really examining myself. I've thrown my hands up at different times and admitted I was being ridiculous, in one of the old posts I went through you half-assedly admitted starting an argument with me, but still put plenty of the onus on myself for a previous argument leading to your reaction in a different thread. This is as close as you get to an "apology", and I could tell from how you wrote it, that it killed you to admit any liability.

OK anyway, keep putting it down to "ganging up" on you, even though this is oddly one of the only times I've felt compelled to jump in when others already have (funny that, isn't it?). Keep calling these past experiences dubious even though other posters have written about it, some who would never usually write about another poster in such detail, and keep denying this is still your mentality, and tell yourself holding grudges is justified if you feel hurt by someone in the past.

But you just aren't doing yourself any favours in the long run. That is all.



If you want a "gang stalker" ask the guy who jumped in every single time I argued with someone to say "He's not worth it, move on, he hates incels" until I eventually pointed out that it was ironic he gets so hurt by "bullies" when it's being pretty hypocritical.

If I consistently jumped in any time someone had a problem with David then fine, it could be said I'm "ganging up on him", but this was the first time I really felt I had to do it and will be the last.

Dante you've previously admitted you probably have a bias against good looking people and you've painted me exactly how you want to out of pure frustration with your life, so your opinion on me isn't valid basically. You would pretty much agree with any point someone is making against me.



Thanks. I mean sometimes I pretend it's always easy to say what you feel on this "little forum", but in cases like this situation it really wasn't, and I haven't gotten any enjoyment out of it. I do feel a compulsion at some point to eventually feel what needs to be said, even if it's uncomfortable viewing, even if it's likely it won't get anyone anywhere, well least I tried. This applies to real life as well, but obviously not a fraction as much as my free wheeling on here.

I have mentioned apologising in debates but I'll admit this is still extremely rare indeed, for me as well. That actually feels the best though, even if you somewhat dislike what a person is saying in the heat of the moment, to take a step back and realise you're both butting heads, and just say sorry, if they say the same back (doesn't always happen) then that's the best you can really get on here.
Jeezus!! This post was longer then the Gettysburg Address.
 

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I agree. I remember when everyone (literally) went crazy for her. Of course I can see she is VERY pretty and sexy, but I'm curious - what is it about her that makes her so special in the eyes of men?.. .
Nothing makes her stand out from the myriad "hot girl/supermodel" type.
They are a dime a dozen.
 

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Nothing makes her stand out from the myriad "hot girl/supermodel" type.
They are a dime a dozen.

I think her face always looks like she is having sex

her eyes are kind of half lid, sleepy and her lips are always parted.

like during sex. Kind of like Adrianna Lima a similar thing.

Something about some lips look like 'lips' ....you can probably google this...(or give it some thought).
 

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Surely there's some lookism term for this and how it dates back to mating antiquity.

I know they used to say blush and lipstick or lip stain going way back was to imitate the look of sexual peak during sex.

Thats why I think for some men if women wear TOO MUCH it stops looking like 'arousal' and starts to look clownish or cartoonish==even when girls are from an artistic stand point 'that looks so cool' IE the eyebrows over done. I dont think many men like this look OR the really 'flawless' matte face make up look...Also something I dont think most men really care about.

they like a pretty eye, a pretty lip and flushed cheeks.
 

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I bet I can expect this for a few months!

I didn't hold a long term grudge over you because if I have a problem with someone I get it out of the way. You stew on it and make petty remarks over and over, which you have done and will do to others as well.

Just like harassing that woman for months "you said you'd be my friend! Why aren't you my friend?! BE MY FRIEND!! WAHHH".

You've said your bit more than once now, just get it all out of your system so I don't have to keep seeing you slandering me randomly, in petty ways like you've done with others. The reason I said I was "done" with this is because you are simply choosing to believe everything I'm saying is fabricated, so there's no point in going around in circles if you're just going to deny simple truths about your character.

The arguments done. I said I wasn't aware of our bitter past issues until recently, I'm guessing you don't believe this either, you haven't openly explained actually, you just keep repeating the same "1 year grudge" allegations so maybe you're just not listening.

And when it's done, most people stop going out of their way to mention each other. You didn't have to explain that further to CF, and especially not in the way you did.

You're further proving exactly what happened a year ago, and what you do to others and will repeatedly do, as a bitter guy who will keep on going. Probably in smaller petty ways in future.

You can keep replying with "f*** you a**h**"as if this carries some significance, but that's just hilarious coming from you. It just doesn't suit your character whatsoever and makes you sound deranged and semi retarded. I can only imagine how you'd look flipping the bird.

@CaptainForehead I don't regularly do cocaine, that was carrying on from last Saturday. Last time before that was around New Year's.

It's not really the best drug actually but it's just common.

I think that part of the reason you fight with everybody is that it's the only way for you to get attention.

You're very jealous of the attention that other people get -- you're always talking about likes and popularity. But for the most part when you're civil, people just skip over your posts, because they're boring. Because you're boring.
 

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I think that part of the reason you fight with everybody is that it's the only way for you to get attention.

You're very jealous of the attention that other people get -- you're always talking about likes and popularity. But for the most part when you're civil, people just skip over your posts, because they're boring. Because you're boring.
lmao I've never even read one of his posts
 

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lmao I've never even read one of his posts

You should they are actually often good and entertaining and its funny because I have often read David complimenting Rudiger postings so I find it hard to believe he thinks now suddenly his postings are boring..but whatever. To each their own.
 
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