powersam
Senior Member
- Reaction score
- 19
Show me how Michael Eades is 'disgraced'. Proof.
Then show me how that disproves the papers he references in those two pieces that you probably didn't read. Here is one of the papers referred to in the article - http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 0399905204
Then go and read about ketosis and ketoacidosis. Educate yourself so you'll understand that the two are very different. You seem to be under the impression that as ketoacidosis is damaging, then ketosis must be similarly damaging to a lesser degree.
Nor is it even relevant really as one does not need to be in ketosis constantly on the Paleo diet or to minimise insulin.
But no, what you'll actually do is raise straw man arguments, ie/ talking about propecia's effectiveness, which I've never questioned., or Dr Oz?!?! , or that I claimed insulin resistance causes male pattern baldness (also never said).
Mate you've got a minor in biochem. I've got a degree in human biology. If this is an education battle, I win. You have a smattering of knowledge, and think it gives you carte blanche to discredit whatever, hence you are a prime example of when a little bit of knowledge is worse than none..
What is most interesting is that you have classified the two studies I posted as epi studies, when they are quite clearly interventional. But they probably don't teach that in computer science.
Interesting to see if you can actually stick to 'this is my last post in this thread'.
Oh and here is a bunch of studies on the benefits and safety of the Paleo diet:
Frassetto LA, Schloetter M, Mietus-Synder M, Morris RC, Jr., Sebastian A: Metabolic and physiologic improvements from consuming a paleolithic, hunter-gatherer type diet. Eur J Clin Nutr 2009.
Jönsson T, Granfeldt Y, Ahrén B, Branell UC, Pålsson G, Hansson A, Söderström M, Lindeberg S. Beneficial effects of a Paleolithic diet on cardiovascular risk factors in type 2 diabetes: a randomized cross-over pilot study. Cardiovasc Diabetol. 2009;8:35
Jonsson T, Granfeldt Y, Erlanson-Albertsson C, Ahren B, Lindeberg S. A Paleolithic diet is more satiating per calorie than a Mediterranean-like diet in individuals with ischemic heart disease. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2010 Nov 30;7(1):85
Jonsson T, Ahren B, Pacini G, Sundler F, Wierup N, Steen S, Sjoberg T, Ugander M, Frostegard J, Goransson Lindeberg S: A Paleolithic diet confers higher insulin sensitivity, lower C-reactive protein and lower blood pressure than a cereal-based diet in domestic pigs. Nutr Metab (Lond) 2006, 3:39.
Lindeberg S, Jonsson T, Granfeldt Y, Borgstrand E, Soffman J, Sjostrom K, Ahren B: A Palaeolithic diet improves glucose tolerance more than a Mediterranean-like diet in individuals with ischaemic heart disease. Diabetologia 2007, 50(9):1795-1807.
O’Dea K: Marked improvement in carbohydrate and lipid metabolism in diabetic Australian aborigines after temporary reversion to traditional lifestyle. Diabetes 1984, 33(6):596-603.
Osterdahl M, Kocturk T, Koochek A, Wandell PE: Effects of a short-term intervention with a paleolithic diet in healthy volunteers. Eur J Clin Nutr 2008, 62(5):682-685.
Then show me how that disproves the papers he references in those two pieces that you probably didn't read. Here is one of the papers referred to in the article - http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 0399905204
Then go and read about ketosis and ketoacidosis. Educate yourself so you'll understand that the two are very different. You seem to be under the impression that as ketoacidosis is damaging, then ketosis must be similarly damaging to a lesser degree.
Nor is it even relevant really as one does not need to be in ketosis constantly on the Paleo diet or to minimise insulin.
But no, what you'll actually do is raise straw man arguments, ie/ talking about propecia's effectiveness, which I've never questioned., or Dr Oz?!?! , or that I claimed insulin resistance causes male pattern baldness (also never said).
Mate you've got a minor in biochem. I've got a degree in human biology. If this is an education battle, I win. You have a smattering of knowledge, and think it gives you carte blanche to discredit whatever, hence you are a prime example of when a little bit of knowledge is worse than none..
What is most interesting is that you have classified the two studies I posted as epi studies, when they are quite clearly interventional. But they probably don't teach that in computer science.
Interesting to see if you can actually stick to 'this is my last post in this thread'.
Oh and here is a bunch of studies on the benefits and safety of the Paleo diet:
Frassetto LA, Schloetter M, Mietus-Synder M, Morris RC, Jr., Sebastian A: Metabolic and physiologic improvements from consuming a paleolithic, hunter-gatherer type diet. Eur J Clin Nutr 2009.
Jönsson T, Granfeldt Y, Ahrén B, Branell UC, Pålsson G, Hansson A, Söderström M, Lindeberg S. Beneficial effects of a Paleolithic diet on cardiovascular risk factors in type 2 diabetes: a randomized cross-over pilot study. Cardiovasc Diabetol. 2009;8:35
Jonsson T, Granfeldt Y, Erlanson-Albertsson C, Ahren B, Lindeberg S. A Paleolithic diet is more satiating per calorie than a Mediterranean-like diet in individuals with ischemic heart disease. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2010 Nov 30;7(1):85
Jonsson T, Ahren B, Pacini G, Sundler F, Wierup N, Steen S, Sjoberg T, Ugander M, Frostegard J, Goransson Lindeberg S: A Paleolithic diet confers higher insulin sensitivity, lower C-reactive protein and lower blood pressure than a cereal-based diet in domestic pigs. Nutr Metab (Lond) 2006, 3:39.
Lindeberg S, Jonsson T, Granfeldt Y, Borgstrand E, Soffman J, Sjostrom K, Ahren B: A Palaeolithic diet improves glucose tolerance more than a Mediterranean-like diet in individuals with ischaemic heart disease. Diabetologia 2007, 50(9):1795-1807.
O’Dea K: Marked improvement in carbohydrate and lipid metabolism in diabetic Australian aborigines after temporary reversion to traditional lifestyle. Diabetes 1984, 33(6):596-603.
Osterdahl M, Kocturk T, Koochek A, Wandell PE: Effects of a short-term intervention with a paleolithic diet in healthy volunteers. Eur J Clin Nutr 2008, 62(5):682-685.
