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I didn't even see yours. I said some, retard.You're so f*****g retarded
Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless
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@74775446 why don't you remain true to your actual treatment and instead of selling some worthless "serum" you can sell your own unique minoxidil formulation... 5%.. add some azelaic acid... some herbal DHT blockers... some other nourishing goodies for the scalp.. and there you go man, reputation saved.
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So in the end sadly this discredit some successful storys ...the last thing this thread needs is more disbelief.
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Wait til you find out some of the studies here were produced by dermaroller/dermaneedle companies. But despite all that, its stupid not to dermaneedle if you are trying to regrow.
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I use the cold shower water afterwards to reduce inflammation and get rid of bloody spots too.
To dry my head afterwards I get a clean hand towel and pat it over my head just once to soak up the majority of the water.
The I let it dry over a couple of hours. Six / Seven weeks in and I’m fine.
You’ll be fine.
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Yeah, most of us are aware of this. I also don't get why he wouldn't say he used Minoxidil... I'm guessing Minoxidil is well-known and he needed something original.lmao did you guys see the e-store site that @74775446 made? He's claiming he founded his own new treatment called "trichostimulation" that has been clinically proven to be superior to minoxidil and finasteride:
https://myhair.life/
selling his own branded dermapen and some vague hair growth serum as a monthly subscription sort of deal haha
@Bill_Russo
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he accomplished regrowth with minoxidil+derma yet he's selling a follicle growth serum with his kit and fails to mention minoxidil as part of his process, except that he took it "before" without effect:
https://myhair.life/pages/method
Also, you seriously couldn't come up with anything more creative than My Hair?
I also know the lead of the Indian study sold dermarollers. But again, whether Numberdude is a scammer or not and whether Dhurat had a dermaroller store makes no difference. Most of us know that aiming to replicate his results isn't the way to go about this (granted, some have achieved it). Perhaps more people thought that way in the beginning, but the thread has settled. People are seeing results, so it's clear it works.
Sadly, this might throw off some newcomers. But more pictures and success stories pop up with time, here and on Tressless, so hopefully this serves as counter evidence.
@NW4Santa I'm sorry to hear that... Care to elaborate? You are not seeing even vellus hair? Zero? Nada? Niente?
One of the best success stories took 18 months until he saw improvement. We have to take into consideration the possibility of you being a non-responder, though.
@infinitepain Bout to enter class, bud. Will answer to you later, sorry.
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And about the number guy, why do you people care? Even if he’s scamming with useless products we shouldn’t advertise him anymore. He provided hundreds of pics, made this thread sprout and attracted more testimonies and pics. I’d say that’s a pretty good contribution already and whatever he does afterwards to make profit shouldn’t be our concern, since we can just stick to what studies say.
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Just used 1.75mm instead of 1.5. Seems to be a bit more red dots.
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People who try to make cash on people in despair don’t belong here. that's enough to win a ban like many others in the past. People who do wounding session know how effective it is and don’t need this. there are enough studies and success stories on the internet but yeah you have to search.... I switched to dermastamp alone in august and I can see regrowth on the border of my hairline. I was using dermaroller for 2 years(maintenance) Idid not wait for this thread to pop up. There are tons of threads about wounding +pictures. his trichostimulation serum? I lol'd.
@Admin could you clear this up. @Roberto_72 if you are reading...thx ; )
@Admin could you clear this up. @Roberto_72 if you are reading...thx ; )
As far as im aware he hasn't advertised his site on here so i really see no problem with him trying to make a few pennies from his experience, not a big deal for me and not worthy of ban etc he has provided solid results and inspired many people to microneedle.
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Again i dont think bleeding is a big thing we have to take in count. I had massive bleeding with a dermaroller ...because those needles are bigger. With the Dermapen i have zero bloodspots..only a red scalp like in this picture... does this mean one treatment is better than the other one? i dont know ..maybe one Week Dermaroller and the other Week Dermapen
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so here are some german users in this thread...also we have a german forum we are replying to this thread here.. and yes you can look up my posts there too. Maybe numberman learned a different language and going to fake 100 forums? And thats my problem i wanted to clarify.. people that to attack me too because of the mainposter...i joined here because i want to help.
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Do you apply minoxidil directly after derma? Or do you wait for 24 hours after derma before applying?
newplayer
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I dont care if numberman wants to earn from this, he can make an Amazon ebook and go on TV for all I care, and I dont care about the marketing lingo he uses. There are numerous studies and stories backing this up, so keep calm and hit that scalp.
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This^
Just needle yourself, use minoxidil if you can and don’t waste cash on some magic potion serum.
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apply it the same day of my rolling session. Often ill do it in the afternoon and apply minoxidil before ill go to bed.. so estimated 6 hours or something like this...but i do NOT apply it right after.
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I would say I roll lightly. It's enough to cause a little bit of pain and some redness, the odd blood-spot. I don't find too much pain from applying the minoxidil after. I mean you can feel a bit of stinging for a while but I wouldn't say it's unbearable or anything close to unbearable. Feels like your scalp is very stimulated.
Regarding the inflammation, I don't think the microneedling and inflammation are connected in my understanding. Inflammation can be taken care of by shampoos etc.
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The studies were done with a roller
OMG are u f*****g retarded there is no way to scam with those wet pic and videos and i promsie you no one will miss you buddy, sometimes I wonder if anyone deserves hair loss then I see ppl like you ...
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I've been growing loads of hair with primarily microneedling and mechanical stimulation with zero minoxidil for about 6-7 months now. The fact is that microneedling is an effective hairloss treatment with solid studies to back it up and there isn't exactly a lot to lose. At worst you're a non-responder and you lost $15 on a cheap roller? Perhaps more if you got a pen.
Admittedly that website is super sketchy although I'm under the assumption that a Doctor has reached out to him and offered $$$ for a brand deal. Trichostimulation is a bullshit term and is just microneedling except with a fancy brand name. The actual device looks exactly the same as a Dr.Pen which is just a cheap re purposed permanent make-up device made in China. I'm assuming these are just made generically there and companies just buy and put their own logos on them, it's very common with a lot of other products. That said I currently own a Dr.Pen and I'm using it and really it is just cheap Chinese garbage but it's functional at the least, I might make a review for the one I bought in the future but it's just a temporary solution until I can get a Derminator 2. The secret growth serum is incredibly shady but I can only imagine it's just used as marketing to differentiate it from similar devices, it probably doesn't do a great deal.
I've reached out to this guy before and it didn't seem like he understood much of the science side of things, it just appeared that he saw the minoxidil and microneedling study and replicated it and saw real genuine results. Since his results have blown up so much he's been trying to just make a few $$$ off of things which is questionable yes but his results are likely legitimate. I can understand the mentality of accepting some brand deal. In actuality I've regrown a good amount of hair, where is my brand deal at? $$$ It'd be at least some compensation for the years of my life that balding ruined haha but honestly I don't really care and I just want to fully regrow my hair and get out of the toxic hairloss community forever.
Anyways here is my success thread for anyone interested, I've been posting consistent updates for many months now. I've been way too lazy to update my main post but there are a bunch of albums and update pictures in the comments that you have to painfully search through. I might condense it all cleanly together once I'm fully happy with my hair, I'm seriously happy with how far I've come so far but I'm still insecure about my hairline although that does appear to be coming along nicely. I might be able to cap out at a NW2.5 from a NW4.5 in the next 6-12 months. I'll definitely be posting updates then so it's something to take note of if you're interested. Also worth mentioning I am taking finasteride now for 3.5 months although the regrowth benefits from it have appeared minimal, it still seems the majority of my regrowth is from microneedling/mechanical stimulation.
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...or-finasteride-mechanical-stimulation.116396/
Admittedly that website is super sketchy although I'm under the assumption that a Doctor has reached out to him and offered $$$ for a brand deal. Trichostimulation is a bullshit term and is just microneedling except with a fancy brand name. The actual device looks exactly the same as a Dr.Pen which is just a cheap re purposed permanent make-up device made in China. I'm assuming these are just made generically there and companies just buy and put their own logos on them, it's very common with a lot of other products. That said I currently own a Dr.Pen and I'm using it and really it is just cheap Chinese garbage but it's functional at the least, I might make a review for the one I bought in the future but it's just a temporary solution until I can get a Derminator 2. The secret growth serum is incredibly shady but I can only imagine it's just used as marketing to differentiate it from similar devices, it probably doesn't do a great deal.
I've reached out to this guy before and it didn't seem like he understood much of the science side of things, it just appeared that he saw the minoxidil and microneedling study and replicated it and saw real genuine results. Since his results have blown up so much he's been trying to just make a few $$$ off of things which is questionable yes but his results are likely legitimate. I can understand the mentality of accepting some brand deal. In actuality I've regrown a good amount of hair, where is my brand deal at? $$$ It'd be at least some compensation for the years of my life that balding ruined haha but honestly I don't really care and I just want to fully regrow my hair and get out of the toxic hairloss community forever.
Anyways here is my success thread for anyone interested, I've been posting consistent updates for many months now. I've been way too lazy to update my main post but there are a bunch of albums and update pictures in the comments that you have to painfully search through. I might condense it all cleanly together once I'm fully happy with my hair, I'm seriously happy with how far I've come so far but I'm still insecure about my hairline although that does appear to be coming along nicely. I might be able to cap out at a NW2.5 from a NW4.5 in the next 6-12 months. I'll definitely be posting updates then so it's something to take note of if you're interested. Also worth mentioning I am taking finasteride now for 3.5 months although the regrowth benefits from it have appeared minimal, it still seems the majority of my regrowth is from microneedling/mechanical stimulation.
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...or-finasteride-mechanical-stimulation.116396/
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I've been growing loads of hair with primarily microneedling and mechanical stimulation with zero minoxidil for about 6-7 months now. The fact is that microneedling is an effective hairloss treatment with solid studies to back it up and there isn't exactly a lot to lose. At worst you're a non-responder and you lost $15 on a cheap roller? Perhaps more if you got a pen.
Admittedly that website is super sketchy although I'm under the assumption that a Doctor has reached out to him and offered $$$ for a brand deal. Trichostimulation is a bullshit term and is just microneedling except with a fancy brand name. The actual device looks exactly the same as a Dr.Pen which is just a cheap re purposed permanent make-up device made in China. I'm assuming these are just made generically there and companies just buy and put their own logos on them, it's very common with a lot of other products. That said I currently own a Dr.Pen and I'm using it and really it is just cheap Chinese garbage but it's functional at the least, I might make a review for the one I bought in the future but it's just a temporary solution until I can get a Derminator 2. The secret growth serum is incredibly shady but I can only imagine it's just used as marketing to differentiate it from similar devices, it probably doesn't do a great deal.
I've reached out to this guy before and it didn't seem like he understood much of the science side of things, it just appeared that he saw the minoxidil and microneedling study and replicated it and saw real genuine results. Since his results have blown up so much he's been trying to just make a few $$$ off of things which is questionable yes but his results are likely legitimate. I can understand the mentality of accepting some brand deal. In actuality I've regrown a good amount of hair, where is my brand deal at? $$$ It'd be at least some compensation for the years of my life that balding ruined haha but honestly I don't really care and I just want to fully regrow my hair and get out of the toxic hairloss community forever.
Anyways here is my success thread for anyone interested, I've been posting consistent updates for many months now. I've been way too lazy to update my main post but there are a bunch of albums and update pictures in the comments that you have to painfully search through. I might condense it all cleanly together once I'm fully happy with my hair, I'm seriously happy with how far I've come so far but I'm still insecure about my hairline although that does appear to be coming along nicely. I might be able to cap out at a NW2.5 from a NW4.5 in the next 6-12 months. I'll definitely be posting updates then so it's something to take note of if you're interested. Also worth mentioning I am taking finasteride now for 3.5 months although the regrowth benefits from it have appeared minimal, it still seems the majority of my regrowth is from microneedling/mechanical stimulation.
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...or-finasteride-mechanical-stimulation.116396/
Admittedly that website is super sketchy although I'm under the assumption that a Doctor has reached out to him and offered $$$ for a brand deal. Trichostimulation is a bullshit term and is just microneedling except with a fancy brand name. The actual device looks exactly the same as a Dr.Pen which is just a cheap re purposed permanent make-up device made in China. I'm assuming these are just made generically there and companies just buy and put their own logos on them, it's very common with a lot of other products. That said I currently own a Dr.Pen and I'm using it and really it is just cheap Chinese garbage but it's functional at the least, I might make a review for the one I bought in the future but it's just a temporary solution until I can get a Derminator 2. The secret growth serum is incredibly shady but I can only imagine it's just used as marketing to differentiate it from similar devices, it probably doesn't do a great deal.
I've reached out to this guy before and it didn't seem like he understood much of the science side of things, it just appeared that he saw the minoxidil and microneedling study and replicated it and saw real genuine results. Since his results have blown up so much he's been trying to just make a few $$$ off of things which is questionable yes but his results are likely legitimate. I can understand the mentality of accepting some brand deal. In actuality I've regrown a good amount of hair, where is my brand deal at? $$$ It'd be at least some compensation for the years of my life that balding ruined haha but honestly I don't really care and I just want to fully regrow my hair and get out of the toxic hairloss community forever.
Anyways here is my success thread for anyone interested, I've been posting consistent updates for many months now. I've been way too lazy to update my main post but there are a bunch of albums and update pictures in the comments that you have to painfully search through. I might condense it all cleanly together once I'm fully happy with my hair, I'm seriously happy with how far I've come so far but I'm still insecure about my hairline although that does appear to be coming along nicely. I might be able to cap out at a NW2.5 from a NW4.5 in the next 6-12 months. I'll definitely be posting updates then so it's something to take note of if you're interested. Also worth mentioning I am taking finasteride now for 3.5 months although the regrowth benefits from it have appeared minimal, it still seems the majority of my regrowth is from microneedling/mechanical stimulation.
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...or-finasteride-mechanical-stimulation.116396/
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Time to make a new thread tbh. 767744747 is a sneaky f****r.
FCKW36
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The indian study was from guys with a dermaroller studio. Doesn't mean it isn't an effective treatment.
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I use 12 needle cartridges. I find it to be the best number for a pen. Not too much and not too many. Also, it's what they used in the Chinese study, which is what I'm following. 9 seems like a good number too.
I'm also from Europe and I'm wondering the same thing. You're using the Derminator, right? Your only chance is the OwnDoc site, AFAIK.
I followed it and I think it's efficient. About infections, I honestly think you'd have to do it with some old, rusty needles covered in frogshit to get an infection. Otherwise, basic hygiene should do it. I don't think doing it with wet hair is a problem.
I dry it with a towel. If you wanna use a dryer, I'd put it far away. Not sure about the pain, tho.