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I don't hear nobody in this thread talking about iodine. In the indian study they put betadine(a iodine form) on the scalp. I think this is a underrated point. If u remember 2young2retire also use betadine.
But there is more. In a 2005 case study they investigate about topical iodine(lugol) on wound regeneration and they discover the possibility of hair rigeneration.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.re..._A_case_report_An_interim_35_year_summary/amp
". Not all, but most important results are presented. Topical iodine induces hair growth in and around scars."
Also Cotsarelis in one of the follica's patent talk about apply some topical on induced wound. In the list of this topical he includes iodine ond others similar element like lithium.
Resuming : i think we must consider iodine and his derivates (betadine, lugol) not only like disinfectant, but also for their active role in hair regrowth.
I was looking for dermapen on amazon and I came across this:
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Link: https://www.amazon.de/Elektrische-M...=1550837975&sr=8-4&keywords=electric+dermapen .
Is this true?
I think st this point, it’s safe to say that the infrequency of results from different users only adds to the argument of there being many different causes to hairloss. I have been needling + minoxidil for over 4 mos now, and have only gotten worse. I only had slight thinning in my hairline. When I started it was almost unnoticeable. Now, 4 mos in, its much more noticeable. Yet, diffuse thinners, or people with more severe loss have gotten some great results. Yet again we are seeing that hairloss continues to not allow us a one size fits all solution.
Sure, I just thought the bloody pic looks really fake. Cant tell if its him in the before and after. Also, dude comes out of nowhere. IDK. I hope its legit ofc!
I can’t be certain, as I’m only 3 needle sessions in, doing my 4th tomorrow... but man my hair feels so much healthier and thicker when I comb through it. It could be the fresh haircut I got a few days ago but I think I’m starting to respond. Can’t wait to see where I’m at in 6 months. I’m going 1.5 mm deep btw but I’m getting some good blood pricks.I think I just skimmed through all the good responders and am I right in saying that they all went at least 2mm?
chen was 1mmI think I just skimmed through all the good responders and am I right in saying that they all went at least 2mm?
But took years?chen was 1mm
Maybe. I'm just saying not all the great responders were 2mm. 2young and MTC for example also were not. I don't think we should try to set hard and fast rules for things like that we don't really fully understand yet. I am writing a longer post with what we do know for sure from posters with photosBut took years?
Anyone else have really different results in the front and on the crown?
Just did my 3rd session, again 1mm. Front hurt like a motherfucker again, I only did horizontal + vertical and just couldn't bear a 3rd time. Then as soon as I hit past a certain line it just stopped hurting completely, like it was actually just soothing. I thought I was holding the needles too diagonal so really focused on that but no matter what I did it didn't hurt at all.
Look at this picture, it's almost a straight line where the blood stops. https://i.imgur.com/20BOVCr.png
Next time I'm gonna do 1mm front and 1.5mm on the back, see if that makes a difference. Will also be interesting if I maybe see results on the front half first (if I see any to begin with)
Anyone else have really different results in the front and on the crown?
Just did my 3rd session, again 1mm. Front hurt like a motherfucker again, I only did horizontal + vertical and just couldn't bear a 3rd time. Then as soon as I hit past a certain line it just stopped hurting completely, like it was actually just soothing. I thought I was holding the needles too diagonal so really focused on that but no matter what I did it didn't hurt at all.
Look at this picture, it's almost a straight line where the blood stops. https://i.imgur.com/20BOVCr.png
Next time I'm gonna do 1mm front and 1.5mm on the back, see if that makes a difference. Will also be interesting if I maybe see results on the front half first (if I see any to begin with)
Definitely still hammering, but it’s doscouraging.Also remember lots of people have had sheds / have sheds. I think if it’s got worse at 4 months for you, you owe it to yourself to try get that loss back with another 4 months.
Good luck bro!