Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

[KurtCocain]

Can anyone recommend a numbing cream or spray to help with the pain? I searched inhouse pharmacy and alldaychemist but they didn't have anything. I know everything they sale on Amazon maxes out at 5% lidocaine. I was hoping to find something stronger, but will take suggestions on anything.

 

[waynakyo]

I HAVE A PROPOSAL for everyone here.

1. It has become clear that dermarolling (in conjunction with minoxidil or other) is able to achieve stunning recoveries as of yet not feasible with ANY medication

2. The huge disparity between the responders and non-responders does not seem to make any sense. Some are gaining 2 Norwoods with terminal hair, and some are not getting any effect. How can a NW6 with an island that has not grown a terminal hair in years see regrowth but not a 30 year old with thinning hair... The variance in minoxidil alone is not that large. Similarly the variance in finasteride is not all that large from what I have seen.

3. To find the optimal ingredients I suggest we have a survey/questionnaire. I am a statistician and can analyze the results. This is particularly useful given that the dermarolling is not a monotherapy, and is always used in conjuction with something else.


This whole dermarolling this is huge.

 

[supermusic]

Favorable effects of microneedling on long-standing androgenetic alopecia in an elderly man: A case report​

Aims: We report a case of an elderly man with a severe long-standing Androgenetic Alopecia, which was successfully managed with microneedling and minoxidil.
Patients/methods: The patient was a 70-year-old Japanese man with family history of Androgenetic Alopecia, showed no abnormality in physical and laboratory examinations, and had received no treatment. We did monotherapy with 5% minoxidil twice daily to the right half of the scalp, while on the left half topical minoxidil was combined with weekly microneedling using an automated microneedling pen.

Results: After 14 weeks of treatment, negligible hair growth was observed on the monotherapy side. On the combined-therapy side, however, hair growth was obvious and the density of hairs determined under trichoscope was significantly increased compared with the monotherapy side (P < .001). Only transient pain, erythema, and pinpoint bleeding were observed as adverse effects.

Favorable effects of microneedling on long-standing androgenetic alopecia in an elderly man: A case report - PubMed

Although we need further clinical trials to assess the efficacy and safety and to standardize the method, microneedling combined with topical minoxidil could be a treatment option for severe Androgenetic Alopecia in elderly patients.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This case seems interesting to me because it could prove that the effects of the microneedle with minoxidil is not due to a greater absorption of minoxidil but to other factors, since if it were so, the hair would have grown on all sides in the same way

 

[pegasus2]

This case seems interesting to me because it could prove that the effects of the microneedle with minoxidil is not due to a greater absorption of minoxidil but to other factors, since if it were so, the hair would have grown on all sides in the same way

It kills me that anyone ever thought it was greater absorption of minoxidil. Minoxidil is well absorbed by the skin

 

[Jackshtbro]

It kills me that anyone ever thought it was greater absorption of minoxidil. Minoxidil is well absorbed by the skin

Legit the most annoying thing to read that being spewed over and over. Well that + bludflow

 

[Nehel]

It kills me that anyone ever thought it was greater absorption of minoxidil. Minoxidil is well absorbed by the skin

Why does microneedling as a monotherapy hardly work, then?

 

[pegasus2]

Why does microneedling as a monotherapy hardly work, then?

All you have to do is read Follica's website, any of the studies, or this very thread

 

[baldlygoing]

Can anyone recommend a numbing cream or spray to help with the pain? I searched inhouse pharmacy and alldaychemist but they didn't have anything. I know everything they sale on Amazon maxes out at 5% lidocaine. I was hoping to find something stronger, but will take suggestions on anything.

I’ve seen 10% lidocaine online. Celestapro.com is one. Never ordered from them so can’t comment on any of their products. Might be ordering some here in the next week though.

 

[MaestroTR]

is it possible to prevent "minoxidil bloat" or dark circles come from it?

 

[sportsguy97]

Heh, the problem with this minoxidil + needling approach and getting results is always the question of "For how long?"

Like throwing a shot of gasoline on a dying fire, it'll keep it burning for a while longer, but ultimately, it's over without AA's.

I see people say this from time to time. I just don't understand how one could know. How do we know long term needling isn't equivalent to finasteride in terms of at least stopping hairloss? I think we have at least anecdotal evidence now that at least for some people it continues to prevent loss for them. For me personally I got good initial regrowth then that kind of stabilized, but I've maintained for 2 years now. With needling and minoxidil so I'm happy.

 

[5minutesbeforemiracle]

Can anyone recommend a numbing cream or spray to help with the pain? I searched inhouse pharmacy and alldaychemist but they didn't have anything. I know everything they sale on Amazon maxes out at 5% lidocaine. I was hoping to find something stronger, but will take suggestions on anything.

Just go to your local chemist. In my country at least it's not prescription.

 

[5minutesbeforemiracle]

is it possible to prevent "minoxidil bloat" or dark circles come from it?

For minoxidil bloat:
-Reduce sodium intake
-Take a diuretic
-Cardio exercise

I don't know much about the dark circles though.

 

[waynakyo]

For those who have followed this thread, do you see topical minoxidil + derma superior to oral minoxidil + derma?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

The next 48h after needling I still use Topical just in case, since thats how Follica protocol works. Once you went oral, the absorbtion from topical minoxidil is not gonna make much difference in your system and no point risking imo

Haven't seen many cases of only OM+needling, since usually people who take OM are lazy to use topicals and microneedling is not comfortable routine at all

 

[300]

Heh, the problem with this minoxidil + needling approach and getting results is always the question of "For how long?"

Like throwing a shot of gasoline on a dying fire, it'll keep it burning for a while longer, but ultimately, it's over without AA's.

I followed this thread from the very beginning.Out of dozens of members on here, how many had decent results and for how long?Not too many.
I did it for a year and i ve had some regrowth(the new hair was not longer than 1mm.) for the first 5 months,but sadly i went back to baseline for the next 5.Only santalore gave me real hair,but then again it lasted only for 3 months.

 

[MrPortugal]

Heh, the problem with this minoxidil + needling approach and getting results is always the question of "For how long?"

Like throwing a shot of gasoline on a dying fire, it'll keep it burning for a while longer, but ultimately, it's over without AA's.

I'm using minoxidil for 6+ years ALONE and still working

If didn't worked for you doesn't mean that will not work for others

 

[Ajamilo]

Another one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/v0ger1

omg that is hot

 

[mooreu]

Another one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/v0ger1

- Finasteride 0.5mg daily
- Kirkland brand Minoxidil foam 5%, twice daily
- Weekly microneedling using Dr. Pen A6, set to 1.5mm length, vertex and crown only
- Twice weekly Ketoconazole shampoo (Regenpure DR; switched from Nizoral after first month)
- Multivitamin supplement twice daily (Folexin)

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Is there a good summary of people who already were in treatment for months/years, and then suddenly improved after adding microneedling?

The problem is the new "Big 3" is Min/finasteride/Needling, almost all new cases is people starting everything alltogether so the efficacy of needling is hard to estimate. We already had impressive 3 month transformations with min/finasteride before needling was even a thing.

 

[CapiLarry]

Is there a good summary of people who already were in treatment for months/years, and then suddenly improved after adding microneedling?

The problem is the new "Big 3" is Min/finasteride/Needling, almost all new cases is people starting everything alltogether so the efficacy of needling is hard to estimate. We already had impressive 3 month transformations with min/finasteride before needling was even a thing.

the original post - page 1. user added needling after having been on min for 2 plus years. i just added needling about 5 weeks ago having been on min for 5 years. here's to hoping it improves my results.