Was anyone else here a loser even before hair loss?

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That just sounds like the people who say "everyone is beautiful!" Very naive.

You look at people differently as you age, EvilLocks--especially beauty. DH sees winners here; I do too. Our definition of winner may be different than those much younger than we are.
 

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You look at people differently as you age, EvilLocks--especially beauty. DH sees winners here; I do too. Our definition of winner may be different than those much younger than we are.

yeah its a veritable special Olympics!

HA HA HA
I kid!
 

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Yeah man, even Donald Trump is beautiful.

I like that you just called me a man. Pretty accurate, since that's what I'm turning into with this baldness. Anyway, of course Donald Trump is beautiful. Everyone is just as beautiful! And of course it's the INSIDE that truly matters! (If you didn't already figure it out - sarcasm).
 

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I like that you just called me a man. Pretty accurate, since that's what I'm turning into with this baldness. Anyway, of course Donald Trump is beautiful. Everyone is just as beautiful! And of course it's the INSIDE that truly matters! (If you didn't already figure it out - sarcasm).

LOL, it's just a figure of speech/slang and not necessarily directed at you being 'the man' in reference to.
 

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well, for the first time in my life, a girl just literally messaged me with, "you're a bald loser"... so there's that. hahaha... what a b*tch. Some girl from highschool that started flirting with me on facebook. I thought she was cool and we grew up together, so I was kinda excited. She texted me some sexy photos and I liked it. The next week, she wanted me to confront another dude she was sending the same photos to, because he started stalking her. I replied with, "you're playing games with people. I don't want anymore photos and if you think I am going to confront this guy, you're out of your mind."... She hasn't even seen me in like 15 years, but during a conversation I told her I was insecure about my hair loss and it's effected my dating life. The FIRST attack she made was, "You're a bald loser".. hahaha... I am kind of happy, because it didn't even feel bad. You immediately realize, that if some one stoops that low, then they are simply f*cked up.
 

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yeah, I de-friended her and responded with, "in regards to your, 'you're a bald loser' comment - go f*ck youself, I am still hot"... and she kept going on with, "I don't even know if you're bald, I said that out of anger". I replied, "that's even worst. You said it because you knew I was insecure about it, and it was an easy 12 year old attack. Get lost dude". and now she keeps messaging me. Good lord. I will never talk to her again out of respect for myself and the rest on this forum that are experiencing this dreadful situation, with no empathy from others. What a loser.
 

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lol

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LOL, it was a typo, it was supposed to say WHINER not WINNER

HA HA HA
I kid!
 

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well, for the first time in my life, a girl just literally messaged me with, "you're a bald loser"... so there's that. hahaha... what a b*tch. Some girl from highschool that started flirting with me on facebook. I thought she was cool and we grew up together, so I was kinda excited. She texted me some sexy photos and I liked it. The next week, she wanted me to confront another dude she was sending the same photos to, because he started stalking her. I replied with, "you're playing games with people. I don't want anymore photos and if you think I am going to confront this guy, you're out of your mind."... She hasn't even seen me in like 15 years, but during a conversation I told her I was insecure about my hair loss and it's effected my dating life. The FIRST attack she made was, "You're a bald loser".. hahaha... I am kind of happy, because it didn't even feel bad. You immediately realize, that if some one stoops that low, then they are simply f*cked up.

She sounds like an attention wh***. And when it blew up in her face. THEN she needed you to calm the situation.
This girl won't change. She will always be addicted to attention.
And believe me, she will suffer later in life when she loses her attractiveness and the world finds her invisible.

She will most likely turn very nasty and bitter.
Her future husband, I feel sorry for.
 

buckthorn

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She sounds like an attention wh***. And when it blew up in her face. THEN she needed you to calm the situation.
This girl won't change. She will always be addicted to attention.
And believe me, she will suffer later in life when she loses her attractiveness and the world finds her invisible.

She will most likely turn very nasty and bitter.
Her future husband, I feel sorry for.

Exactly. i have found that you can't really trust people that need attention all the time. Deep down, they are really just riddled with insecurity and use the attention from other people to mask it. A woman that is happy and secure alone is a good sign. Once you learn to not NEED anyone in this world, you become much appreciative of those around you.
 

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You made the right decision to shut it down instead of allowing yourself to be manipulated by another flakey "fly by nighter"
who apparently doesn't respect you.
We all experience insecurity, but decent people don't exploit each other's weaknesses in order to elevate their own low station/ self esteem.
Life is already too short and challenging enough. I've seen too many big hearts get sucked into dead end misadventure(s) who are still reeling from the aftershocks.
Clearly you seem to have a good handle on how to read people and can take care of yourself. :)

When there is no one to trust we must trust ourselves.
 

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I was never a loser, but I wasn't very desirable as a teenager. I was skinny, balding and had horribly low self-esteem. I still managed to semi-date, and hook up with women, but my actual numbers were far from their potential comparing to how many women were down to be with me in relation to how many I actually perused.


On top of having horribly low self-esteem, and balding as a teenager it messed with my physical and social development. A lot of balding men in their late twenties, and thirties are blessed... because they had the chance to develop that confidence that's derived from experience in earlier years that transcends to to who they re today. men who bald, but have no experience suffer the most. It took me many years, and is still an on going process to help gain that experience that I never formed while I was a young teenager.

I have transcended into an entirely new person, and am doing much better today then I was as a teenager. How many people do you know in their twenties that make a six figure income, are muscular, and have a full head of hair. Given these traits, i'm at the highest percentile of my age group. When I go to the gym, and public settings I notice lot's of women trying to maintain, and lock eye contact. When our eyes collide it's a mutual smile between us. I experience this ALL the time. I don't know if I'm handsome, because I have suffered from terrible BDD since I was a child, and is still something I'm recovering from today. But from experience, and dating online and in physical presence I have no trouble at obtaining a women's interest if I put in the effort. But as I mentioned, I'm so locked within my emotions, that it's a constant roller coaster that I don't know if I will ever be able to endure, and recover from.

Most of you don't know **** about baldness, except a hand full like Fred, UC and Exodus who have experienced the real pain associated with premature baldness in their teens. I say FEEL my pain, because Ive been going through torture since I was fifteen. I get a kick out of these threads with guys posting their full heads with a **** hair off temple loss, and are absolutely devastated by such metro sexual desires. Almost to the point where I want these guys to feel real Androgenetic Alopecia pain. I wouldn't be surprised if they tied a noose around them self. This metro sexual generation is a complete joke, and im a product, and on going result of it.
 

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When I go to the gym, and public settings I notice lot's of women trying to maintain, and lock eye contact. When our eyes collide it's a mutual smile between us. I experience this ALL the time. I don't know if I'm handsome, because I have suffered from terrible BDD since I was a child, and is still something I'm recovering from today. But from experience, and dating online and in physical presence I have no trouble at obtaining a women's interest if I put in the effort. But as I mentioned, I'm so locked within my emotions, that it's a constant roller coaster that I don't know if I will ever be able to endure, and recover from.

Obviously, women think you're handsome, as you have no trouble attracting them. Hopefully, you can work out those BDD issues and see yourself as they see you.
 

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I was somewhat of a loser only up to a certain point in my life. Sure, people seemed to enjoy my company but I don't think anyone ever really saw me as a sexual being.

For most of my teens and early 20s I was very skinny, with no sense of style, weak, quiet and shy. Ironically, I was always crushing on guys way out of my league; the good-looking, popular, athletic playboy type. Guys I could never land as an awkward, lanky geek.

Then, halfway through college, after a nasty end to an unhealthy relationship, I finally snapped and decided to take charge of my life. I hit the gym hard, packed on a load of muscle, got a pretty good body, amped up my style, and my confidence grew. It literally changed everything. Guys who used to dismiss me as a joke suddenly started chatting me up and taking me seriously, even flirting.

I couldn't believe what I'd been missing out on the whole time; real life, a sense of possibility and the rush of genuine confidence. Then, like some sick cosmic joke, hair loss hit fast and hard, and it all went to sh*t.

The worst thing about it is you just don't recover from that. You can't unlearn what you've learned about people, attraction and the factors that determine your place within society; you don't get to explore the conditions of happiness and then turn around and forget all you've learned when the truth becomes inconvenient or too ugly to bear (i.e. baldness).

"The Tree of Knowledge is not that of Life"?
 
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