We Absolutely Have To Get Hellouser To Japan

[Omega2327]

Hair loss is almost licked. Predictions like this today are not the same as predictions like this 10 years ago. The science wasn't ready to cure hair loss back then. The science is ready to cure hair loss NOW. Cots has been working on this puzzle for a long time and Tsuji's overcoming obstacles as we speak. Hair loss is just about done.

So what made you finally come around, nameless?

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

do you see any problems with combining follica with hair transplants?

sounds like you can afford tsuji as soon as it comes out, i dont think i will be able to lol. id rather just go ahead and spend 10k on a hair transplant alongside follica then wait however many years for tsjui to lower its price

Yeah what I'm gunna do is a hair transplant to rebuild my hairline now and then utilize the thickening stuff when they show up down the road to build up density and be able to get off finasteride, and if Tsuji comes through then I'll get a trillion new follicles implanted for dat dere density of the gods. All this promising stuff makes the strip scar (and FUE scars since they are a thing too) pretty irrelevant, it'll never be not covered by a thick mane.

 

[MrV88]

Yeah what I'm gunna do is a hair transplant to rebuild my hairline now and then utilize the thickening stuff when they show up down the road to build up density and be able to get off finasteride, and if Tsuji comes through then I'll get a trillion new follicles implanted for dat dere density of the gods. All this promising stuff makes the strip scar (and FUE scars since they are a thing too) pretty irrelevant, it'll never be not covered by a thick mane.

Ever tried a fraxcel co² laser for this scars? İt's expensive, but really helps with deep scars.
You could also use an electronic dermapen, helps also if you god deep enough weekly and is less expensive.

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

Ever tried a fraxcel co² laser for this scars? İt's expensive, but really helps with deep scars.
You could also use an electronic dermapen, helps also if you god deep enough weekly and is less expensive.

Nah, if/when I have scarring from a hair transplant I'll be waiting until regenerative medicine can essentially wipe away scar tissue entirely for a modest price. No real rush since it's covered by hair.

 

[MrV88]

Nah, if/when I have scarring from a hair transplant I'll be waiting until regenerative medicine can essentially wipe away scar tissue entirely for a modest price. No real rush since it's covered by hair.

Was talking about a FUT scar , have FUE scars too and wait until Tsuji fills them up and hope that i don't need anything then.

 

[nameless]

So what made you finally come around, nameless?

Three things:

1. I've been thinking about Follica a lot lately and it finally sunk in that Cotseralis has DEFINITELY learnt over the years what chemicals to apply to wounded skin to make the cells create follicles instead of skin, and when to apply those chemicals. Keep in mind that Cotseralis is smart and for more than a decade he's been studying the degree of wounding, the chemicals to apply, and the timing to apply those chemicals. Plus Follica is taking the broscience guesswork out of the wounding by having clinicians do the wounding. Follica's gearing up for market rollout.

2. Regarding Tsuji, those guys are solving the final problems even as we speak. They'll roll out in 2020.

3. Regarding Shiseido, we already know that Replicel's technology will arrest hair loss and grow a modest amount of hair. If that's the worse it does it will be a breakthrough because it will give us resuts similar to minoxidil + finasteride without hormonal side effects and without having to use it every day. But Shiseido is a smart company and they're trying to tweak the treatment to get better results so Shiseido's treatment is a wild card. The tweaks that Shiseido is doing are not minor tweaks. They're substantial tweaks.

 

[rclark]

Three things:

1. I've been thinking about Follica a lot lately and it finally sunk in that Cotseralis has DEFINITELY learnt over the years what chemicals to apply to wounded skin to make the cells create follicles instead of skin, and when to apply those chemicals. Plus Follica is taking the broscience guesswork out of the wounding by having clinicians do the wounding. Who here doesn't believe Cots has figured out what chemicals need to be applied after wounding and when to apply those chemicals in order to make the cells produce follicles instead of skin? Remember, Cots is smart and he's been studying this for more than a decade. He's got the degree of wounding, chemicals, and timing figured out.

2. Regarding Tsuji, those guys are solving major problems even as we speak. They'll roll out in 2020.

3. Regarding Shiseido, we already know that Replicel's technology will arrest hair loss and grow a modest amount of hair. If that's the worse it does it will be a breakthrough because it will give us resuts similar to minoxidil + finasteride without hormonal side effects and without having to use it every day. But Shiseido is a smart company and they're trying to tweak the treatment to get better results so Shiseido's treatment is a wild card. The tweaks that Shiseido is doing are not minor tweaks. They're substantial tweaks.

Glad to hear that someone finally coming out with something.

Hopefully it will be everything they promised.

 

[Tano1]

I do not need to wait that long.

At this point I think it's already obvious that Follica and Tsuji will work. Follica will work substantially better than the medicines we have today. Follica will work on just about everyone and it will give you enough hair to produce a look you can be satisfied with but it probably won't give everyone CLUB HAIR. On the other hand, it will give a good amount of hair to a lot of people and just about everyone will get visibly obvious improvement from Follica.

Follica will be a good bridge to Tsuji because Follica will give you a satisfactory head of hair while you wait for the even better Tsuji treatment. Tsuji will be a total cure for everyone.

Follica should be available in 12 months or so. Tsuji's treatment should be available within 2 1/2 years.

And then there's Shiseido. Shiseido's the wild card. It's regrowth could merely be comparable to what we already have or it could be a major breakthrough because Shiseido is using repeat treatments, which might be more effective than Replicel's single treatment. Replicel's single treatment regrowth is similar to the treatments we already have but with Replicel you don't have to keep using it for maintenance or worry about hormonal side effect so even Replicel's single treatment is better than what we already have. This means that even if Shiseido's repeat treatments are no better than Replicel's single treatment it will still be an improvement over the medicines that are available now.

Tsuji a total cure for everyone? So Alopecia Universalis and DUPA can be put to rest as well?

 

[Tano1]

Nah, if/when I have scarring from a hair transplant I'll be waiting until regenerative medicine can essentially wipe away scar tissue entirely for a modest price. No real rush since it's covered by hair.

Me and you both. I don't mind my FUE scars but that smiley face has to disappear. I can definitely live with it for awhile if it's fully covered in hair but once skin regeneration is here, I will be eradicating that scar!

Gimmieskinorgimmiedeath

 

[hellouser]

Tsuji a total cure for everyone? So Alopecia Universalis and DUPA can be put to rest as well?

I think Dr. Christiano will tackle Universalis and DUPA before Tsuji will.

 

[Tano1]

I think Dr. Christiano will tackle Universalis and DUPA before Tsuji will.

Follica claims to generate new follicles. What puzzles me is they said they were going to address diffuse thinning or so I was told from a forum member, but wouldn't the new follicles be cursed with the same fate as the rest? Then I think well then that would go for any new follicles in a thinned area because they weren't resistant to miniaturization in the first place?

Unless they're growing new vellus hairs and then making them terminal hairs with the topical they plan to use and keeping them terminal so long as the treatment is continued, then that would be a functional cure for DUPA and Universalis as well or am I missing something?

 

[nameless]

Tsuji a total cure for everyone? So Alopecia Universalis and DUPA can be put to rest as well?

I mean everyone with Androgenetic Alopecia and probably traction alopecia too.

 

[nameless]

Tsuji a total cure for everyone? So Alopecia Universalis and DUPA can be put to rest as well?

Do you have alopecia universalis? Do you have DUPA?

Only a small percentage of hair loss sufferers have these conditions.

The overwhelming majority of hair loss sufferers have Androgenetic Alopecia.

 

[Tano1]

Do you have alopecia universalis? Do you have DUPA?

Only a small percentage of hair loss sufferers have these conditions.

The overwhelming majority of hair loss sufferers have Androgenetic Alopecia.

No I have diffuse thinning but it's DPA.

I believe it would be great to address DUPA and Universalis though as those are probably the worst conditions you can have. You cure them and the world has officially eradicated hair loss for good.

 

[nameless]

No I have diffuse thinning but it's DPA.

I believe it would be great to address DUPA and Universalis though as those are probably the worst conditions you can have. You cure them and the world has officially eradicated hair loss for good.

No. Only a small percentage of hair loss sufferers have these 2 conditions. Even if you cure these 2 conditions most balding people would still be balding because most balding people have Androgenetic Alopecia. If you want to cure the highest percentage of bald people you would cure Androgenetic Alopecia.

 

[Tano1]

No. Only a small percentage of hair loss sufferers have these 2 conditions. Even if you cure these 2 conditions most balding people would still be balding because most balding people have Androgenetic Alopecia. If you want to cure the highest percentage of bald people you would cure Androgenetic Alopecia.

If you grew hair on an absolutely bald head, then wouldn't you be able to grow hair on a thinning head? I figured it would work on anyone if they could address those conditions.

 

[That Guy]

It was stated in the interview that even patients with DUPA could be treated because even they will still have a sufficient amount of follicles.

In practice, though — it would not be ethical to treat such patients unless they were significantly bald.

If you fucked up and copied hair that is susceptible, a very real possibility, then the patient has wasted their money.

 

[sunchyme1]

It was stated in the interview that even patients with DUPA could be treated because even they will still have a sufficient amount of follicles.

In practice, though — it would not be ethical to treat such patients unless they were significantly bald.

If you fucked up and copied hair that is susceptible, a very real possibility, then the patient has wasted their money.

so guys like this are fucked?

 

[Pauly198]

I'm a NW5 with some wispy thin hairs on the top of my head. I think Follica will probably thicken those hairs on the top of my head plus thicken the rest of my remaining hairs. I need to see what my hair looks like after the existing hairs are thickened. I could still have a couple inches of frontal recession but I can wear bangs to substantially de-emphasize that problem. I always wear bangs whenever I can anyway. I'll probably still have a spot on the crown but it will probably shrink a lot. I could get a scalp reduction to remove it if I want to go that route but it may not be large enough to bother with, especially since Tsuji will eliminate it a year and a half later anyway.

I plan to immediately get Follica as soon as it comes to market and see how well it works on me. It may be sufficient until Tsuji comes to market. Remember there are volumizing shampoos and other volumizers out there that produce the illusion of more hair, and I may be able to use those volumizers plus Follica to produce an OK look.

I think that after Follica comes to market I'll get it and I'll look kind of good for a year or year and a half, and then Tsuji will come to market and I'll get that treatment quickly, and then I'll be able to produce a highly competitive look.

Doesn't Tsuji initially only plan on treating a very small number of people?

 

[Tano1]

It was stated in the interview that even patients with DUPA could be treated because even they will still have a sufficient amount of follicles.

In practice, though — it would not be ethical to treat such patients unless they were significantly bald.

If you fucked up and copied hair that is susceptible, a very real possibility, then the patient has wasted their money.

So then you're saying with DUPA patients, although they have thinning all over, will still have enough terminal hairs to achieve a full head of hair. DUPA would have to wait awhile then before they could even be treated since you have no idea what hairs will thin out.